RE: Jaguar XJR Supercharged
Discussion
Look, clearly I'm wrong about the whole 'who waves at cars?' thing. Oh, and the aeroplane thing too, though I've never seen either happen.
Still, reminds me of when I was driving to the shops a while back and two kids had a cardboard sign that they were waving at traffic. It said 'Honk if you're cool'.
My horn didn't work though...
Ali.
Still, reminds me of when I was driving to the shops a while back and two kids had a cardboard sign that they were waving at traffic. It said 'Honk if you're cool'.
My horn didn't work though...
Ali.
LA said:That would have been handy when the Audi did the same thing to me with the keys inside. I was 100 miles from home though, and didn't have a friend with the satellite comlink to open it again! Cue wifey to the rescue with spare keys, and me nursing a cup of coffee for three hours waiting for them to arrive!
I liked the photographer whose camera laden pick-up automatically locked itself after one minute of his absence. It did this one day with the engine running. He dialled a number, and via satellite and an identification code, someone who knew where it was exactly on a video map unlocked it. I was very impressed.
XJR's Rock!...Id choose one over the equivelant BM or Audi any day of the week.
I own an XKR and the XJ is actually a little quicker due to its lightweight aluminium body. It really feels like you are driving a smaller car.
However and this is the reason Ive never had one, for the money I'd rather have a Range Rover.
I own an XKR and the XJ is actually a little quicker due to its lightweight aluminium body. It really feels like you are driving a smaller car.
However and this is the reason Ive never had one, for the money I'd rather have a Range Rover.
victormeldrew said:
Nice to see that while BMW and Merc get a lashing, Audi does not. The A8 is made in the same ethos as the XJR I believe - or maybe, considering which was aluminium construction first - it's the other way round.
The Audi A8 is an aluminium spaceframe (lots of tubes welded together) and coated in an aluminium skin. Think of a large, all aluminium Lotus 7.
The XJ is an aluminium monocoque. It is made by pressing flat sheets of aluminum into complex shapes and then welded together - exactly the same way 'normal' cars are made from steel.
So whilst the A8 is actually heavier than a steel equivalent (designed to take advantage of the reducing price of aluminium as much as the materials construction properties), the XJR is significantly lighter (200kg) than it would be if it were steel (an aluminium sheet is lighter than the same sized steel sheet).
To put that into context, every incarnation of big Audi is getting bigger and heavier. The XJ has got bigger AND LIGHTER. Not even Lotus have managed that with a direct model replacement yet!
Good article LA, 
glad to read some positive reviews of the XJR, it really is a fantastic car. The reception they recieve from the public is amazing, you really do get young and old alike admiring the thing - which should make any PH
I concur in respect of your comparison with BMW and MB. As for the Audi A8 - yes it does have a sophisticated construction, and yes, it does have a well stuck together interior; but that's it. That aside, it has all the charm of a mass grave
glad to read some positive reviews of the XJR, it really is a fantastic car. The reception they recieve from the public is amazing, you really do get young and old alike admiring the thing - which should make any PH I concur in respect of your comparison with BMW and MB. As for the Audi A8 - yes it does have a sophisticated construction, and yes, it does have a well stuck together interior; but that's it. That aside, it has all the charm of a mass grave
Th whole point of the XJ's is that they all look like Jaguars. There is no mistaking the design, which is probably the best treatment of rear quater of any 4 door saloon IMO. i hope the back end on the XJR doesn't sit up in the air like all the newer XJ's do, just looks a bit wrong......
www.edmunds.com/media/2004/newyork/nyt/jaguar/08jaguar_XJ.500.jpg
And yes, in the right car you do get thumbs ups, and waves...
>> Edited by chevy-stu on Monday 22 August 14:55
www.edmunds.com/media/2004/newyork/nyt/jaguar/08jaguar_XJ.500.jpg
And yes, in the right car you do get thumbs ups, and waves...
>> Edited by chevy-stu on Monday 22 August 14:55
JagLover said:
J_S_G said:
It's an XKR, no an XJR, no an XK...
Different monicur in the States where I drove it. (UK: E-Type, USA: XKE) Different spec too, from UK, different rear lights ... et cetera.[i/]
So what are you reviewing?, the pictures keep changing
The XK (GT) or XJ (large saloon)
Can't see any pics of XKR in this article?
Please clarify
New boy to this website but love it already! Having owned a 6 pot XJR for four years I can only say that if you haven't had one then get one! For a good condition 6 pot version you need only pay £6K - £8K and don't forget that this was a £50K + motor car when new. I have a manual version which is a real joy to drive as it enables me to make my own mind up as to when to change gear!
Can anyone fill me in on why Jaguar insist on installing auto transmissions to sports cars and sport saloon such as the XJR (sport saloon) and XKR (sports car)? The only reason I can think of is that the good ol' US of A has decided that Jaguars are all driven by men and women with dodgy knees and hip replacements!
Can anyone fill me in on why Jaguar insist on installing auto transmissions to sports cars and sport saloon such as the XJR (sport saloon) and XKR (sports car)? The only reason I can think of is that the good ol' US of A has decided that Jaguars are all driven by men and women with dodgy knees and hip replacements!
Well, funnily enough my father has just bought a beautiful old 1987 Daimler 6, 3.6, the AJ6 engine. Only 76k on the clock and a recent condition report gave it A and A+ all round. FSH, everything electric works, it is a wonderful car.
He bought it for 670 quid.
670 quid!!!!
I couldn't believe it, when he told me on the phone I expected to see a shed but this thing is nigh-on immaculate. And it can move too, following him in my ZS180 I was amazed at how well the car went and handled.
But most of all is that feeling of Jaguarness. You simply waft along cosseted in the leather and walnut. Let the hoi polloi rush hither and thither, you know you could keep up with if you needed to but you feel no need to prove it. Jags have an aura that no other cars have and fortunately this hasn't been diminished by abortions like the X-type and estate models.
He bought it for 670 quid.
670 quid!!!!
I couldn't believe it, when he told me on the phone I expected to see a shed but this thing is nigh-on immaculate. And it can move too, following him in my ZS180 I was amazed at how well the car went and handled.
But most of all is that feeling of Jaguarness. You simply waft along cosseted in the leather and walnut. Let the hoi polloi rush hither and thither, you know you could keep up with if you needed to but you feel no need to prove it. Jags have an aura that no other cars have and fortunately this hasn't been diminished by abortions like the X-type and estate models.
Congrats to your Dad yuguy! I had a 1983 series 3 Daimler and it is probably the nicest car I have ever driven. It shouts class and some believe it to be the prettiest 'Jaguar' ever produced. Hence the X300's reversion to the rounded front end after the XJ40 (square headlights, square front end) of the mid 1980's - early 1990's. Your Dad will feel every bit the Gent, and quite right too!
>> Edited by Johnniem on Monday 5th September 13:34
>> Edited by Johnniem on Monday 5th September 13:34
Thanks for the response 'Los Angeles'. I posed the same question in the Jaguar Enthusiast Club magazine earlier this year and it illicited an enormous response, mostly in favour of manual transmission.
How can we get the best out of our hugely fast engines without having manual shift? "We can't" is the answer and it is ruining the true driving experience unless one is wealthy enough to afford the Ferrari's or Aston Martin's which, come to think of it, are also built with paddle shift!
Anyway, search out those stick shifts and bring back proper driving. Have a word with the guys in Detroit, who undoubtedly remember the proper Fords which handled like cows on ice but left you feeling as if you'd had a good drive!
How can we get the best out of our hugely fast engines without having manual shift? "We can't" is the answer and it is ruining the true driving experience unless one is wealthy enough to afford the Ferrari's or Aston Martin's which, come to think of it, are also built with paddle shift!
Anyway, search out those stick shifts and bring back proper driving. Have a word with the guys in Detroit, who undoubtedly remember the proper Fords which handled like cows on ice but left you feeling as if you'd had a good drive!
los angeles said:
Can anyone fill me in on why Jaguar insist on installing auto transmissions to sports cars and sport saloon such as the XJR ...The only reason I can think of is that the good ol' US of A
That's about it in a nutshell. It's what killed the enterprising US-Modena built sports car company, Qvale Mangusta. They built 150 with manual trans and orders came in for ... autos. How else can American hypermulti-task while driving if they don't have autos?
However, if we are to believe what we read in the mototing press, it is the US market who are demanding BMW release the M5/M6 in manual transmission.
Allegedly, many US customers buy these cars for the raw driving experience and want a manual box. Partly I would suggest for the rarity value of manuals in the US.
So, no excuse Jaguar, give us 500bhp and a manual box, please
Love my XKR with Auto box.
But for you young chargers, try this
www.arden.de/index.php?id=48
Under "Automotive" / "Jaguar" / "Accessories" / "XK8/XKR" / "Drivetrain"
There is a 6 speed manual box.
But for you young chargers, try this
www.arden.de/index.php?id=48
Under "Automotive" / "Jaguar" / "Accessories" / "XK8/XKR" / "Drivetrain"
There is a 6 speed manual box.
how much does an arden manual conversion cost? 5k?
i suppose you could put the xjr engine and manual in the xk8. if that was a good idea, i don't know.
Perhaps simply, why not buy a manual db7,
which is perhaps why jaguar should put manual gearbox in sporty cars, agree plenty of people like autos....
i suppose you could put the xjr engine and manual in the xk8. if that was a good idea, i don't know.
Perhaps simply, why not buy a manual db7,
which is perhaps why jaguar should put manual gearbox in sporty cars, agree plenty of people like autos....
john Murray said:
Can anyone fill me in on why Jaguar insist on installing auto transmissions to sports cars and sport saloon such as the XJR (sport saloon) and XKR (sports car)? The only reason I can think of is that the good ol' US of A has decided that Jaguars are all driven by men and women with dodgy knees and hip replacements!
You make it sound like Jaguar are odd for making the XJR with an auto.
Well apart from the BMW M5 name me another large performace saloon that isn't an auto?
the Audi RS6 is an auto, the AMG Mercs are autos....
Face it, there's no market for these as manuals. And they wouldn't suit the cars anyway.
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