X150 coupe: Talk me out of it

X150 coupe: Talk me out of it

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Simpo Two

85,467 posts

265 months

Tuesday 7th February 2023
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Vsix and Vtec said:
I have to admit, the ones in my price bracket all seem to be black or grey. I do like it in silver however, i'm definitely getting Spa Silver XJ220 vibes from the grille/headlamp area on the few i've seen. Silver, Red or a Blue would be my choice, with wood dash rather than aluminium. I'm coming back to the leaping cat for luxury rather than sporting feel.
The problem with X150s, just like DB9s, is that the later you go the more boring the colours get. And of course if you happen to like wood, as I do, you are automatically 200 years old and well past it grandad rolleyes . So if you like a bit more than monochrome and aluminium, you may need to look at earlier cars.

reddiesel

1,959 posts

47 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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8bit said:
Two-time owner here, my current one (5.0 XKR) is currently up for sale.

I'm the last person you ask to talk you out of these, I've loved both of mine. If you're in the market for a 5.0 XK then IMHO you'd be silly not to look at the XKR as well. Running costs are basically the same as the fuel and insurance cost differences are negligible. An R is only as fast as you drive it so not buying one because it's "too fast" is a false argument really. The XKR is louder as standard, although not antisocially so.

£5,500 in bills within the first few months of ownership is highly atypical to say the least, think Hendrix was extremely unlucky there. I've had my current one about 4 and a half years now and don't think I'm anywhere near that yet, although I do as much work as I can on it myself. Servicing costs are surprisingly non-terrifying even at franchised dealers as Jaguar operate a fixed-price servicing scheme for cars over three years old. Main dealers are a lottery as with almost any brand, I don't use my local one (for reasons I won't go into here) and I have no specialist closer than three hours' drive away so I service mine myself, it's easy to do.

Mine is advertised on here, it's silver on black wheels, 59-plate if you're tempted smile It has a couple of small extras - exhaust upgrade and the XKR-S software for a little more go...

ETA - re. the headlights, installing Osram Nightbreaker bulbs will help. I've never seen an X150 with Halogen lights though, as far as I know even the earliest cars all had Xenons as standard.

Edited by 8bit on Tuesday 7th February 15:36
Can I ask Niall and its only as an indicator of where the Marketplace currently stands . We are constantly seeing Members saying " this is too expensive and that is too expensive " , you obviously took a look around the Marketplace and price yours which I know to be a well cared for example owned by a long time Jaguar Enthusiast accordingly . How has the experience of attempting to sell your Car been thus far and do you feel its a stagnant marketplace?

reddiesel

1,959 posts

47 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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HendrixsWhiteStratReturns said:




This is mine in Indigo...looks royal blue, purple or black depending on the light !!!
Its a lovely looking Car and I have to tell you that | would forgive it anything .I have never owned a Convertible of anything but I have to say that even now almost twenty years since its introduction its still a beautiful looking Jaguar and in style terms the only worthwhile successor to the E Type

Vsix and Vtec

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629 posts

18 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Simpo Two said:
The problem with X150s, just like DB9s, is that the later you go the more boring the colours get. And of course if you happen to like wood, as I do, you are automatically 200 years old and well past it grandad rolleyes . So if you like a bit more than monochrome and aluminium, you may need to look at earlier cars.
Thats fine with me, the older ones are about what I can afford hehe I think the best I'm going to get is a 2010 with around 55k miles, and in all honesty, that will fit me just fine. I'm also fine with being regarded as 200 years old, I'm of the opinion that whilst I understand Jaguar chasing younger money, they made a grievous error in the styling of the latest XJ, and lost thier DNA all together with the XE and XF. They're nice cars, but you would never say "that's a jag" in a blind test.

reddiesel

1,959 posts

47 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Where roughly are you based ? I’m in MK and happy to tag along if you want a second pair of eyes if that helps in any way or if you want me to look at something nearby for you?

Edited by reddiesel on Wednesday 8th February 09:33

Vsix and Vtec

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629 posts

18 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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reddiesel said:
Where roughly are you based ? I’m in MK and happy to tag along if you want a second pair of eyes if that helps in any way
I'm in the Midlands, on the blue side of the Trent. I'm probably going to be making my move after I get back from Le Mans classic later in the year, but I'd definitely appreciate a pair of knowledgeable eyes on the matter.

reddiesel

1,959 posts

47 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Where roughly are you based ? I’m in MK and happy to tag along if you want a second pair of eyes if that helps in any way

HendrixsWhiteStratReturns

51 posts

56 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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reddiesel said:
Its a lovely looking Car and I have to tell you that | would forgive it anything .I have never owned a Convertible of anything but I have to say that even now almost twenty years since its introduction its still a beautiful looking Jaguar and in style terms the only worthwhile successor to the E Type
LOL ! Thank you - There I have to agree with you 100% Red, its certainly stood the test of time and definitely takes its design cues from the E-Type. Bizarrely I think the car looks better with the hood up than down, just great from every angle these cars :-)

Piersman2

6,598 posts

199 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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miniman said:
The really annoying thing is that the dash warning light for it flashes so you can’t even ignore it.
Mine triggers the flashing warning light during the winter months, maybe every 4 days of use.

It takes 3 cycles to clear again so I spend most of the dark months with a flashing light on the dash.

After the first year I applied a small , well positioned square of black electrical tape to the dash glass... no more irritating flashing light for me, not that I can see without peering around the piece of tape anyways! smile

Doesn't seem to effect the operation of the lights at all, must be a very small intermittent error that hangs around the ECU for about 3 days.

Edited by Piersman2 on Wednesday 8th February 17:00


ETA: To answer the OPs original question... 5.0 S/C Convertible - 5 years in (already!!! doesn't seem it), 1 A/C valve, 1 water pump, 1 A/C condensor , 1 S/C coupler, although the last two were already on the car when I bought it so should have really been sorted by the previous owner. That's it in roughly 20k miles between 80k and the 105k on it now.

Still absolutely love driving it when I get the chance, goes like stink, sounds superb with the dynamic mode on and the top down, and still looks mint. biggrin

Edited by Piersman2 on Wednesday 8th February 17:08

reddiesel

1,959 posts

47 months

Wednesday 8th February 2023
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Vsix and Vtec said:
I'm in the Midlands, on the blue side of the Trent. I'm probably going to be making my move after I get back from Le Mans classic later in the year, but I'd definitely appreciate a pair of knowledgeable eyes on the matter.
Great , I shall PM you my number

tberg

574 posts

61 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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As others have said, I'm not the one to talk you out of buying an X150. I've had my 2010 XKR coupe for 10 years. Next week or so, it will pass 200,000 miles, and what a pleasure each of those miles has been. Definitely the best automobile I've ever owned in 55 years of driving. And the most reliable!!. Still my daily driver as I don't think I could find another car that I'd be as satisfied with or that scratches so many itches. I've had mine pulleyed and tuned to nearly 600hp, have tracked it dozens of times, and just still enjoy driving it everyday. Mine will be with me until I can no longer drive. Spectacular automobile! Below is my 200,000 car as it still looks today.


mozmajor

10 posts

158 months

Thursday 9th February 2023
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To the OP, in the last 2 weeks I moved from a Honda S2000 to an XK 4.2 (X150). Like you I found the Honda a fantastic car but you need to drive it like a yobo to get the performance. The car is night and day different, I waft along not needing to go above 2-3k revs and the V8 burble is intoxicating. I'm currently in that honeymoon period with the car, listening to every sound and anticipating something going wrong. I toured Europe in the S2000 which was great but a touch uncomfortable, the Jag is totally different. I've booked it in for a full service (all fluids, transmission filter etc.) at a well regarded specialist and hopefully it'll not let me down.

HendrixsWhiteStratReturns

51 posts

56 months

Saturday 11th February 2023
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To the OP - definitely don't let my experience put you off.

I think I was just unlucky as some have rightly said and it was a shame as the engine issue (and the attitude of the dealer to it) really took the shine off ownership initially but I've just put it down to experience. In truth it happened after some grim family stuff/bereavement and at that point in time I just thought "Oh ffs....what next" !!

Anyway, they are incredible to drive and I don't regret buying mine (just want it to behave now !!)

Vocht

1,631 posts

164 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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I've had my 2010 XK 5.0 Portfolio for a year now, and touch wood, not had any issues.

The XK 5.0 for me is the pick of the range. The same power/performance (more or less) as a 4.2 XKR, but non of the supercharger maintenance/servicing issues to worry about. It obviously also benefits from all of the facelift upgrades such as lights, interior, sound system and more.

I'm usually one for 'more power = better' but the 380bhp in the XK has a really great balance of big power but extractable performance on the roads. Think Goldilocks, just right. You can have fun and ring it out without getting into totally ridiculous license losing figures too quickly. It'll still spin it's rears nearly whenever you want it to, and it's super sharp throttle response and low down grunt from the torquey V8 will definitely keep you on your toes. It steps out easily but is very communicative and the electronics are superbly judged. If anything it lacks rear grip and really needs a good set of rear tyres.

Prices have softened since last year and I even thought they were bargains then. If you want a fast, characterful, good looking V8 with relatively low running costs then there's never been a better time to buy an X150 in my opinion. They're not going to get much cheaper and the good ones will get snapped up.

Piersman2

6,598 posts

199 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Vocht said:
I've had my 2010 XK 5.0 Portfolio for a year now, and touch wood, not had any issues.

The XK 5.0 for me is the pick of the range. The same power/performance (more or less) as a 4.2 XKR, but non of the supercharger maintenance/servicing issues to worry about. It obviously also benefits from all of the facelift upgrades such as lights, interior, sound system and more.

I'm usually one for 'more power = better' but the 380bhp in the XK has a really great balance of big power but extractable performance on the roads. Think Goldilocks, just right. You can have fun and ring it out without getting into totally ridiculous license losing figures too quickly. It'll still spin it's rears nearly whenever you want it to, and it's super sharp throttle response and low down grunt from the torquey V8 will definitely keep you on your toes. It steps out easily but is very communicative and the electronics are superbly judged. If anything it lacks rear grip and really needs a good set of rear tyres.

Prices have softened since last year and I even thought they were bargains then. If you want a fast, characterful, good looking V8 with relatively low running costs then there's never been a better time to buy an X150 in my opinion. They're not going to get much cheaper and the good ones will get snapped up.
biggrin Owner of non-S/C says it's the best balance of power, etc.... where as all us owners of 5.0 S/C say the S/C is the best balance... more power! smile

Both are more than ample on the power basis, the 5.0 N/As are cheaper, but the S/C are the nuts, you don't HAVE to press the throttle to the floor every time, the be honest I think I rarely press mine more than half way I reckon. laugh

Vsix and Vtec

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629 posts

18 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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I'm wanting one to put me back in a comfortable and relaxed cruiser. I use a company van during the week now, so I want something to help me unwind and cover the leisure miles with my partner. I think the XKR would be too costly fueling and a bit too sporty for my goal. Mostly it's so I can just lean back, pootle along and let the V8 whisper reassuring sounds to my angry core. A supercharger would very likely be too temping to play with, and then I'm right back where my Type R has me now.

volvos60s60

566 posts

214 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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I keep looking at these & think the 5.0 XK or XKR look good value for a great looking package. After all these years they still look sharp & are probably a nice ownership experience. The problem I think with them is that the high VED will cause their values to keep heading down, they will not stop falling fast

I know a different price point, but I am also looking at V8 F-Types and with those it's clear that 2017 or newer with lower VED after 6 years will mean that pre 2017 be a deal breaker for many in the future

Edited by volvos60s60 on Monday 13th February 16:15

remedy

1,649 posts

191 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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I spent today driving the M40/M42/M5 to Bristol for a funeral then came back via the fosse way because the weather was nice and I wanted to take the scenic route.

My XKR lapped it up and gave my 27mpg /half a tank for 170 miles. It was a gentle cruise down on the mway where I saw 30mpg AVG at one point.
The fosse way was a bit more sprightly... Up the hill at both Fosse Bridge and Stow on the paddles, in 3rd gear right to about 5k. Love that whine...

Yeah, I can't talk you out of it. It's the best car I've ever owned and I look forward to every drive.

8bit

4,868 posts

155 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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Vsix and Vtec said:
I'm wanting one to put me back in a comfortable and relaxed cruiser. I use a company van during the week now, so I want something to help me unwind and cover the leisure miles with my partner. I think the XKR would be too costly fueling and a bit too sporty for my goal. Mostly it's so I can just lean back, pootle along and let the V8 whisper reassuring sounds to my angry core. A supercharger would very likely be too temping to play with, and then I'm right back where my Type R has me now.
Fuel economy difference between the XK and XKR is minimal really, especially if you go easy on the throttle pedal. Ride comfort is indistinguishable too. Other than the subtle visual clues, the only way you'd know one from the other is if they went side by side and floored the throttle.

I think you're assuming maybe that the XKR is a bit of a hooligan - it really isn't, it's definitely a GT car. Yes it has significantly more performance than an XK but it's still perfectly possible to drive and enjoy it at any speed, not just flat out. When I bought my first one I also had a mk1 Seat Leon Cupra R. That was modified to a little under 300bhp, proper riot of a thing, just egged you on to beast it. The XKR (4.2 X150) just didn't - it engendered a more mature attitude, yes I enjoyed the performance of it but you learn quickly that it's a GT car and it rewards a smoother hand far more than a good scruffing.

Drive both, you'll see what I mean.

reddiesel

1,959 posts

47 months

Monday 13th February 2023
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volvos60s60 said:
I keep looking at these & think the 5.0 XK or XKR look good value for a great looking package. After all these years they still look sharp & are probably a nice ownership experience. The problem I think with them is that the high VED will cause their values to keep heading down, they will not stop falling fast

I know a different price point, but I am also looking at V8 F-Types and with those it's clear that 2017 or newer with lower VED after 6 years will mean that pre 2017 be a deal breaker for many in the future

Edited by volvos60s60 on Monday 13th February 16:15
I think you are completely wrong on that VED argument regarding the X150 and the current marketplace backs that assertion up . Where are they falling fast ?
I also think you are wrong about the F Type , cars are as much an emotional purchase as they are a financial one , especially something of
limited appeal such as an F Type . Nine times out of ten people do their homework and if they want it then they will have it irrespective of VED