F Pace SVR Tyres

[PhilkSVR]

Some advice please. I have an SVR and I need to change the rears, they are 295’s. The car is currently shod with Pirelli P Zeros which were manufacturer fitted. I was going to change these to MP4S’s as they are recommended from all the forum discussions I have read. My question is, as they are a summer tyre how do they perform in winter and is there an all season tyre that any SVR users would recommend or will the MP4S’s be ok. Appreciate your help.

[NortonES2]

Guess it depends where you live, Scottish highlands or SE England?

[PhilkSVR]

I am in Norfolk. But it gets icy here too

[NortonES2]

I'm in the SE and use MPS4S all year round on the RWD XFR. Have a set of snow socks and only had to use them once in 5 years.

[PhilkSVR]

NortonES2 said:

I'm in the SE and use MPS4S all year round on the RWD XFR. Have a set of snow socks and only had to use them once in 5 years.

Thank you. That’s helpful.

[GeniusOfLove]

Forums adore the Michelin PS4S but they're an old tyre now and appear to bettered by the (usefully cheaper) Continental ContiSportContact 7.

I've got them on the rear of my XKR and they're fantastic.

Any performance tyre will be atrocious, absolutely atrocious, in snow and ice as these assymetric patterns with big grooves around the circumference have zero "bite" in snow compared to older patterns with V shaped grooves or more lateral blocks.

You can't get all seasons in big sizes so you're looking at pure winters for your car, which will be very compromised in all but truly wintry conditions. You're either driving cautiously in the cold and staying at home in the snow, or investing in a second set of wheels and tyres I'm afraid.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Monday 4th December 13:57

[PhilkSVR]

Thank you, this was what I was afraid of tbh. Take your point about the SC 7’s though. I haven’t used it in the winter and whilst the snow is visible it’s the ice that can catch you out. Most of my journeys are on major roads so I’m hoping that this will be less of an issue, however it’s a big car with fat tyres on the rear in particular. It does have a snow mode though

[GeniusOfLove]

PhilkSVR said:

Thank you, this was what I was afraid of tbh. Take your point about the SC 7’s though. I haven’t used it in the winter and whilst the snow is visible it’s the ice that can catch you out. Most of my journeys are on major roads so I’m hoping that this will be less of an issue, however it’s a big car with fat tyres on the rear in particular. It does have a snow mode though

You get AWD at least, my XKR is absolutely evil on cold roads until the tyres warm up a bit and even then I'm very cautious.

SC7s often much cheaper than the PS4S, Kwik Fit often have healthy discounts on them.

[funbobby]

I have just put contact 7's on mine and they are superb.

[PhilkSVR]

funbobby said:

I have just put contact 7's on mine and they are superb.

Another vote for SC 7’s. Having checked the reviews there seems little in it. Except the price of course

[PhilkSVR]

Instead of replacing my summer tyres now I am considering buying a set of winters and then swopping them over to summer tyres in the spring. Has anyone done this on the SVR and which tyres did they go for. Thanks.

[PhilkSVR]

GeniusOfLove said:

Forums adore the Michelin PS4S but they're an old tyre now and appear to bettered by the (usefully cheaper) Continental ContiSportContact 7.

I've got them on the rear of my XKR and they're fantastic.

Any performance tyre will be atrocious, absolutely atrocious, in snow and ice as these assymetric patterns with big grooves around the circumference have zero "bite" in snow compared to older patterns with V shaped grooves or more lateral blocks.

You can't get all seasons in big sizes so you're looking at pure winters for your car, which will be very compromised in all but truly wintry conditions. You're either driving cautiously in the cold and staying at home in the snow, or investing in a second set of wheels and tyres I'm afraid.

Edited by GeniusOfLove on Monday 4th December 13:57

Having had a look one of the few all season tyres that fit is the Pirelli Zero All Season but that will be a compromise all round I guess.

[GeniusOfLove]

PhilkSVR said:

Having had a look one of the few all season tyres that fit is the Pirelli Zero All Season but that will be a compromise all round I guess.

All seasons make more sense in the UK for winter fit than straight winters, which give up too much dry and mild temp performance to be that bit better in snow/ice and very cold conditions and while I run them all year round on cooking cars no way would I want to give up that much "normal" conditions performance all year round on a car like yours.

[PhilkSVR]

I agree. It’s been an interesting exercise highlighted by the time of year. I had two reasons, a) I wasn’t sure about the PZero’s and b) with so much power through large rubber on the rear it’s a risk at this time of the year. I have plenty of tread on the fronts, they are a 2022 tyre as the dealer put new ones on at purchase in March. The rears are 2020 however and when I get them checked will either replace them now or wait until Spring dependent on condition. I won’t run a car like this on poor rubber. I also need to consider whether running the rear axle on SC7’s for instance and PZero’s on the front makes sense if I stay with Summers.

[GeniusOfLove]

PhilkSVR said:

I agree. It’s been an interesting exercise highlighted by the time of year. I had two reasons, a) I wasn’t sure about the PZero’s and b) with so much power through large rubber on the rear it’s a risk at this time of the year. I have plenty of tread on the fronts, they are a 2022 tyre as the dealer put new ones on at purchase in March. The rears are 2020 however and when I get them checked will either replace them now or wait until Spring dependent on condition. I won’t run a car like this on poor rubber. I also need to consider whether running the rear axle on SC7’s for instance and PZero’s on the front makes sense if I stay with Summers.

I certainly wouldn't bin new PZeros to replace with SC7. My XJ Supersport has the current PZero PZ4 all round and they've actually been very good, which is never a given with Pirelli, but they do seem to be wearing quite fast and they need some heat in them before I'm wheelspinning everywhere on cold wet roads with more than tiny throttle openings, which to be fair is true of the SC7 on the XKR too.

[PhilkSVR]

I guess the simplest solution is to stay with PZero’s if the rears need changing. The fronts will have plenty left in them. They have done around 8k and I am light on tyres I’m no boy racer. Perhaps I am over complicating things.

[GeniusOfLove]

PhilkSVR said:

I guess the simplest solution is to stay with PZero’s if the rears need changing. The fronts will have plenty left in them. They have done around 8k and I am light on tyres I’m no boy racer. Perhaps I am over complicating things.

I wouldn't worry about mixing brands from front to rear axle either, even if it does slightly irritate.

Obviously it's not a Zafira so you won't be mixing brands across an axle

[PhilkSVR]

Life would be simpler (and cheaper) if it was! No fun though. You are right, mixing brands even if they were on the same axle would do my head in every time I looked

[Patrick Bateman]

I’m almost looking forward to my rear Dunlops wearing out on the XKR, 500 quid aside, so I can stick SC7 on to match the front.

I had another ‘incident’ pulling out a junction this morning. Yes it’s cold and damp but at genuinely moderate throttle to pull out quickly I shouldn’t be able to spin up the rears, temporarily leaving me on the spot, making a racket, looking like an utter, utter helmet in the process.

Happened coming onto a roundabout in mild wet weather once too. Have absolutely no trust in the Dunlops commuting just now so taking it easy, I haven’t floored it since October.

[NortonES2]

That's why they are known as Dunslips.