XKR versus A Cerbera anyone ?
Discussion
I did consider a 3200 GTA, a good friend of mine has one who gave me the low down on running costs etc the XKR came out the winner simply because its cheaper to run, and more reliable. the 3200 is a lovely looking car. the only problem being than the ride is slightly floaty and 20in alloys tends to make the the ride alittle harsh on small sharp bumps.
Hi guys,
I recently bought a 4.2 xkr after 10+ years of TVR ownership. Did have my heart set on a Cerb but couldn't find a decent one in the right colours. Problems with the factory and recent TVR woes convinced me to look elsewhere for the time being.
Whilst I do miss the TVR I absolutely love the XKR. Okay perhaps it's not quite as fast or raw as the Cerbera and is a bit wallowy (however check EVO 49 where they compare the xkr to Maser 4200 and 911) but it is still a stunningly fast car.
Hopefully it will prove reliable, cheap to service and I even managed an average of 30.4 mpg on a recent 500 mile motorway trip to York and back.
What has amazed more than anything is the amount of positive comments and attention it generates. Coming from the TVR I thought the Jag would just blend in, however I've never had so many people asking about any of my cars before, offers of marriage, car swaps etc and not one has mentioned the dreaded reliability word!
Definately not regretting my choice of car.
Graham
PS. Im 35.
I recently bought a 4.2 xkr after 10+ years of TVR ownership. Did have my heart set on a Cerb but couldn't find a decent one in the right colours. Problems with the factory and recent TVR woes convinced me to look elsewhere for the time being.
Whilst I do miss the TVR I absolutely love the XKR. Okay perhaps it's not quite as fast or raw as the Cerbera and is a bit wallowy (however check EVO 49 where they compare the xkr to Maser 4200 and 911) but it is still a stunningly fast car.
Hopefully it will prove reliable, cheap to service and I even managed an average of 30.4 mpg on a recent 500 mile motorway trip to York and back.
What has amazed more than anything is the amount of positive comments and attention it generates. Coming from the TVR I thought the Jag would just blend in, however I've never had so many people asking about any of my cars before, offers of marriage, car swaps etc and not one has mentioned the dreaded reliability word!
Definately not regretting my choice of car.
Graham
PS. Im 35.
Edited by ParanoidAndroid on Friday 3rd August 00:22
I owned a 4.2 Cerbera about 7 years ago, bloody nightmare ownership auxilliary shaft went, 5 weeks of the road, Major engine failure about 3 months after, 17 weeks off the road and engine rebuilt by TVR. Other 'minor' problems, wiper failure, aircon pipe fractured, anti roll bar brkt snapped, one of the bonnet catches operating rod broke. Boot solenoid playing up. Overheating problems. Had it for 12 months and it was more or less of the road for 6 of those.
I have a S Type R now and have driven a XKR the old and the new version and don't see how they can be compaired. The Cerbera is raw, crude, loud, brash,agricultural everything the XKR isn't. The average age of a Cerbera owner is probably 30, the XKR 50
After owning something so unreliable and having been treated like a mug buy a certain TVR Dealer my money will always go on something that I can depend on.
I have a S Type R now and have driven a XKR the old and the new version and don't see how they can be compaired. The Cerbera is raw, crude, loud, brash,agricultural everything the XKR isn't. The average age of a Cerbera owner is probably 30, the XKR 50
After owning something so unreliable and having been treated like a mug buy a certain TVR Dealer my money will always go on something that I can depend on.
ParanoidAndroid said:
Hi guys,
I recently bought a 4.2 xkr after 10+ years of TVR ownership. Did have my heart set on a Cerb but couldn't find a decent one in the right colours. Problems with the factory and recent TVR woes convinced me to look elsewhere for the time being.
Whilst I do miss the TVR I absolutely love the XKR. Okay perhaps it's not quite as fast or raw as the Cerbera and is a bit wallowy (however check EVO 49 where they compare the xkr to Maser 4200 and 911) but it is still a stunningly fast car.
Hopefully it will prove reliable, cheap to service and I even managed an average of 30.4 mpg on a recent 500 mile motorway trip to York and back.
What has amazed more than anything is the amount of positive comments and attention it generates. Coming from the TVR I thought the Jag would just blend in, however I've never had so many people asking about any of my cars before, offers of marriage, car swaps etc and not one has mentioned the dreaded reliability word!
Definately not regretting my choice of car.
Graham
PS. Im 35.
Completely agree, lots of positive comments and attention, i've also noticed no more tail gating and letting me out of junctions is great! For the last few days i've been driving it to work, a 130mile round trip using the M25 and A3, its been perfect, its smooth, easy to drive and above all its refined. fuel consumption if taking it easy (75-80mph) on the motorway is more than acceptable, 400miles from a tank is certainly possible. I recently bought a 4.2 xkr after 10+ years of TVR ownership. Did have my heart set on a Cerb but couldn't find a decent one in the right colours. Problems with the factory and recent TVR woes convinced me to look elsewhere for the time being.
Whilst I do miss the TVR I absolutely love the XKR. Okay perhaps it's not quite as fast or raw as the Cerbera and is a bit wallowy (however check EVO 49 where they compare the xkr to Maser 4200 and 911) but it is still a stunningly fast car.
Hopefully it will prove reliable, cheap to service and I even managed an average of 30.4 mpg on a recent 500 mile motorway trip to York and back.
What has amazed more than anything is the amount of positive comments and attention it generates. Coming from the TVR I thought the Jag would just blend in, however I've never had so many people asking about any of my cars before, offers of marriage, car swaps etc and not one has mentioned the dreaded reliability word!
Definately not regretting my choice of car.
Graham
PS. Im 35.
Edited by ParanoidAndroid on Friday 3rd August 00:22
i'm only 29(!) and i don't feel old at all
Well, this is a really interesting thread so I thought I'd throw my hat into the ring. I have owned three XJ Jaguars over the last 16 years, all different but all fantastic. My last Jag, a manual XJR, was recently sold to enable my purchase of a sports car. As it happens I decided quite early on to buy a 450 Chimaera but vascillated an incredible amount between the XKR and Chimaera before I settled on the Chimaera. There was no science to it but I just felt that I had to have one, even for a short while. I bought it three months ago and it has needed a lot of attention for small niggly things. Nothing to break the bank or to stop me driving it but the sort of stuff that one is not used to when driving Jags. I speak of water in the footwells that need silicon sealant to stop the carpets getting wet, fans connectors failing and engines overheating as a result, very minor electrical failures that need attention at the weekend, constantly needing to check that the dials to see there is nothing to worry about. Having said this the "TVR perma-grin" is a reality. This car is an amazing drive and it acnnot failto get the heart beating and pulse racing. The noise is sublime! I have spent my entrie life winding windows down when a TVR hoves into view. Now it is car that overtake me that get the result!
My last word on the subject is that the XKR and TVR are completely different and shouldn't really be compared. I WILL own an XKR but will probably wait until the new XKR gets to a reasonable price level.
My last word on the subject is that the XKR and TVR are completely different and shouldn't really be compared. I WILL own an XKR but will probably wait until the new XKR gets to a reasonable price level.
I reckon there's a few Cerb owners who'll try an XKR at some stage.
I know JSK went from Cerb to XKR then something else..
I've got two customers who've had XKR's, one now drives A new continental GT & the other A new Range Rover, and they both say that the Jag was the best car they ever had.
I've got an old fella who comes in to our place, and he's got an old shape 06 XKR , his only complaint is the lack of space in the back seats, but I reckon he should have spotted that before he bought it
He traded in his Maserati 4200 for it, which he had for less than a month. He liked the paddle shift, but he felt the car was "undriveable", in the fact that the car lurched forward with the slightest touch of the throttle, he didn't feel he could creep along in slow traffic... The dealer told him "they're all like that", so he chopped it against the XK.
I know JSK went from Cerb to XKR then something else..
I've got two customers who've had XKR's, one now drives A new continental GT & the other A new Range Rover, and they both say that the Jag was the best car they ever had.
I've got an old fella who comes in to our place, and he's got an old shape 06 XKR , his only complaint is the lack of space in the back seats, but I reckon he should have spotted that before he bought it
He traded in his Maserati 4200 for it, which he had for less than a month. He liked the paddle shift, but he felt the car was "undriveable", in the fact that the car lurched forward with the slightest touch of the throttle, he didn't feel he could creep along in slow traffic... The dealer told him "they're all like that", so he chopped it against the XK.
I remember when a Ferrari dealership took on the TVR agency back in the 1990's. I popped in one day about six months later and the service manager took me through to the workshop and showed me an almost new TVR. The owner had pressed a little too hard on the loud pedal and the car spun into the kerb at about 30mph and flipped. So far so good, you'd expect damage, but when he showed me that the anti roll bar had gone clean through the bodywork on the passenger side I was appalled. Luckily the driver was on his own at the time. Six months later the TVR concession had gone; they weren't getting paid for remedial work under warranty and moreover their view was that every TVR owner is a test driver. The legion of electrical faults were beyond their experience. He put me off TVR's for life. I used, 35 years back to have one of the old fire pump engined Granturas and even then the head gasket seemed good for a maximum of 3,000 miles at a time. Since then I've stuck to Jaguars. Reliable, quiet (well some are) and adequately built. My oldest is 46 years old, has done 120,000 miles without virtually a murmur (odd oil pressure sender and one dynamo apart), doesn't burn oil, will cruise at 90/100mph all day and does 24 to the gallon. One other has 350bhp, 0-60 in 4.8, produces 108db and is totally reliable. It could give a TVR a run for its money too. No, I don't want to be a development engineer thank you. I am an RAC member but they don't make a lot of money out of me, unlike TVR owners it seems. I saw two going back to Blighty on a recovery truck after Le Mans alone.
Edited by lowdrag on Saturday 4th August 16:06
Edited by lowdrag on Sunday 5th August 17:10
cerbielee said:
Russel, keep the cerb mate! you know it makes sense! lovely jublie.
Thanks Lee.Apologies for not getting back to your email, I received/found it six weeks after you sent it (computer error combined with moving premises), by which time you'd found yourself one.
There's an 800bhp Holden in the classifieds that has currently got my attention at the moment
i too will probably change my cerb for xkr but the new shape, but not for a few years yet test drove one the other day and was very nice but at the mo the cerb just has the edge every time i go out in it people turn and look at her and even come over and talk to me and ask to have a look just generates loads of interest, btw i have maintained my cerb properly and and in two years of ownership has not let me down once and has driven and performed admirably, like russ said if you maintain your car properly it should serve you well i just love the cerb its the fastest best sounding car i have owned, but i still like jags too our everyday car is s type jag and i have to say i have had a couple over the last five years and have been very pleased with them. ideally i would like to change from s type to xkr convertible but not till past 50 which ain't just yet.
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