What's the difference between a Jaguar and a Daimler?

[Brucie Baby]

I once asked a Jaguar & Daimler Specialist the following question:

"What's the difference between a Jaguar and Daimler?".

He answered:

"Take a new Jaguar and pay for all the 'extras'. You now have a Daimler".

Edited by Brucie Baby on Wednesday 19th September 01:00

[ALEXDB9]

I am not from Britain, so bear with me. By Daimler, do you mean Chrysler??? or Mercedes?

[deevlash]

ALEXDB9 said:

I am not from Britain, so bear with me. By Daimler, do you mean Chrysler??? or Mercedes?

neither! confuses me too!

[Trooper2]

ALEXDB9 said:

I am not from Britain, so bear with me. By Daimler, do you mean Chrysler??? or Mercedes?

Two Daimlers, one in Germany, one in the U.K.
British Daimler is a division of Jaguar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Motor_Company

In the U.S. the top end (most luxurious) XJs are called Vaden Plas or Super V8, in the U.K. they are called Daimlers. Just badge engineering.

[Trooper2]

Holy Crap! is that the real Brucie Baby that started this thread? The cigarette hatin', SCUBA lovin', German tintop hatin' Brucie Baby..

Guess if they let outlaw back, they'll let anyone in this place...

[ALEXDB9]

Trooper2 said:

ALEXDB9 said:

I am not from Britain, so bear with me. By Daimler, do you mean Chrysler??? or Mercedes?

Two Daimlers, one in Germany, one in the U.K.
British Daimler is a division of Jaguar.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daimler_Motor_Company

In the U.S. the top end (most luxurious) XJs are called Vaden Plas or Super V8, in the U.K. they are called Daimlers. Just badge engineering.

Thank you for explaining that. I was at my Jag dealer and I overheard someone call a Vanden Plas a "Daimler" and I thought....is this person at the right dealer I just remembered that. Now I know what he meant.

[Cooky]

what's the difference?....I'd say it was about 20 years, the difference between a leather jacket and a crombie

you'd hear AC DC belting out of the Jag and Richard Feckin Clayderman in the Daimler.





Daimlers are for old people, and usually smell of death and piss

[a8hex]

Cooky said:

what's the difference?....I'd say it was about 20 years, the difference between a leather jacket and a crombie

you'd hear AC DC belting out of the Jag and Richard Feckin Clayderman in the Daimler.





Daimlers are for old people, and usually smell of death and piss

Daimlers look like



And I'm afraid Jaguars don't

Edited by a8hex on Saturday 22 September 20:48

[Brucie Baby]

Hey, now it's making a bit sense to me.

I think there might be a bit confusion and mix-up between me 'a new member to this forum' and a 'previous member' who I presume was a 'troll'?

I had this comment on a different Thread section of PistonHeads:-

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Bit off topic and hope not to put a dampener on someone who is potentially a new member but your Log-in might cause you a few problems (if it hasn’t already) on this site.

A while ago there was a troll on the site who caused more than a few problems and who ended up getting banned. His log in was Bruciebabe and BrucieBabe (he had 2 iirc). Might I suggest a disclaimer in your profile or a quick name change to avoid people jumping to the wrong conclusions? He really did upset a fair few and memories can be long and the tenor of your posts misinterpreted based on old prejudices.

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Well lads this wasn't me. I'm not here to spoil anyone’s fun, just to get involved in this endless lively banter...

Can't change the name, as it's been a trademark for years.

Have fun!

[Trooper2]

Pheeeeew!

:wipesbrow:

[Cooky]

a8hex

that is quite pretty

it'd need a good valet and one of them 'feu orange' traffic light smelly thingys to mask the decaying flesh stench...does it come with the commode seat option?

[a8hex]

Cooky said:

a8hex

that is quite pretty

it'd need a good valet and one of them 'feu orange' traffic light smelly thingys to mask the decaying flesh stench...does it come with the commode seat option?

No need, that's why it's made as a convertible.
Plenty of ventilation.

[Brucie Baby]

Wow, now that is one hell of a pimp mobile!

I'd have to be "smoked" up to the hill and wearing flairs and a kipper tie to drive that thing! Probably taken from the film set of Starsky & Hutch - ha, ha...


Hey lads, just found some more info you might be interested in:-

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Jaguar (and British Leyland)

Gottlieb Daimler was born in Struttgart in 1834. After studying at the Struttgart Polytechnic he travelled to Manchester where he worked with Joseph Whitworth.

"In 1960 the Daimler name was sold to Jaguar. In a classic case of badge engineering the name was subsequently used for more luxurious Jaguar models, eg. Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas for a version of the XJ 12. Apart from the badge, these were distinguishable from the Jaguars by the scallops on the top edge of the grille."

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God, now it's all making sense why the Daimler has the edge. Gottlieb Daimler was born in Struttgart and so added that great 'German' touch of automobile quality - the finest in the world.

Didn't British Leyland go bust?

Edited by Brucie Baby on Tuesday 25th September 11:25

[a8hex]

Brucie Baby said:

Wow, now that is one hell of a pimp mobile!

I'd have to be "smoked" up to the hill and wearing flairs and a kipper tie to drive that thing! Probably taken from the film set of Starsky & Hutch - ha, ha...

Nah wrong decade. This was a show car special that was put together by Jaguar's Special Vehicle Operation (SVO) to commemorate the century of Daimler cars.

Incidentally they never fitted an engine or most other things that you couldn't see. The car have recently been completed for the JDHT in conjunction with the JEC.

Brucie Baby said:

Hey lads, just found some more info you might be interested in:-

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Jaguar (and British Leyland)

Gottlieb Daimler was born in Struttgart in 1834. After studying at the Struttgart Polytechnic he travelled to Manchester where he worked with Joseph Whitworth.

"In 1960 the Daimler name was sold to Jaguar. In a classic case of badge engineering the name was subsequently used for more luxurious Jaguar models, eg. Daimler Double Six Vanden Plas for a version of the XJ 12. Apart from the badge, these were distinguishable from the Jaguars by the scallops on the top edge of the grille."

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God, now it's all making sense why the Daimler has the edge. Gottlieb Daimler was born in Struttgart and so added that great 'German' touch of automobile quality - the finest in the world.

Didn't British Leyland go bust?

Edited by Brucie Baby on Tuesday 25th September 11:25

I think British Leyland were more or less permanently broke. Eventually the Thatcher government got bored with bank rolling a company that seemed to spend more time on strike than actually making cars.


After Jaguar bought Daimler, the model lines were over time brought together. During the 60s, at the low end the Daimler version of the Jaguar Mk2 used different engines. Daimler was a V8 company and had a cute little 2.5L V8 which was generally considered a gem of an engine. This was slotted into the mk2. For the other models then the Daimlers were just badge engineered. The most obvious difference was the fluted chrome work.

One thing that Jaguar did get out of the merger into BL was the Vanden Plas coach works at Kingsbury in north London (a couple of miles from where I was born).

Eventually BL sold off Jaguar as a separate company. The Daimler and VDP names when with them. When Ford bought Jaguar they aquired the Daimler name.

In the last couple of months, since MB ditch Chrysler. Ford (presumably in return for some much need cash) have agreed to let MB call their company Daimler.

www.daimler.com now points to DaimlerChrysler.com

For more info take a look at www.daimler.co.uk



The last really different Daimler, to the best of my rather limited knowledge was this SP250, better know to the world as the Daimler Dart. They used to use these a Police cards.

[NormanD]

[quote=a8hex

This picture was taken at the JEC Southern Day at Littlecote.

The car in question is the Corsica Concept designed by Gary Albright at Jaguar's Special Vehicle Operations Department. The car now belonging to the Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust.

Being a concepr car it was designed to be used on the road but David Marks garages has been working on it to make it a road going exhibit for the JDHT.

There has been an ongoing articles for the last 12 months in the JEC magazine

[Brucie Baby]

Well, I must commend you on your knowledge about the two motors. You know a hell a lot more than I do about the makes...

Regards,

Bruce.

[NormanD]

Brucie Baby said:

Well, I must commend you on your knowledge about the two motors. You know a hell a lot more than I do about the makes...

Regards,

Bruce.

Thanks

I see you are in Surrey, how about joining the Surrey JEC and comming to either our Brooklands meet on the third Thursday or 1st Sunday lunch at West Horsley.

Go to www.jaguar-enthusiasts.org.uk

[Brucie Baby]

Sounds good - might well come down to one of the events as they are just down the road from me.

As long as they don't 'petrol-bomb' the Daimler....

[NormanD]

Brucie Baby said:

Sounds good - might well come down to one of the events as they are just down the road from me.

As long as they don't 'petrol-bomb' the Daimler....

You'll be most welcome, we do have other Daimler owners there.

Brooklands is in the Members Bar in the old Club House.
Go in via the OLD entrance

[a8hex]

NormanD said:

This picture was taken at the JEC Southern Day at Littlecote.

The car in question is the Corsica Concept designed by Gary Albright at Jaguar's Special Vehicle Operations Department. The car now belonging to the Jaguar Daimler Heritage Trust.

Being a concepr car it was designed to be used on the road but David Marks garages has been working on it to make it a road going exhibit for the JDHT.

There has been an ongoing articles for the last 12 months in the JEC magazine

Quite,

There is a number of other pictures from the day on http://www.xk150.org, sorry, I haven't got around to setting the site up properly after adding more pictures to it.

The cover shot from the program was of my other car, I think the photo was actually one of mine - not sure though.

NormanD said:

I see you are in Surrey, how about joining the Surrey JEC and comming to either our Brooklands meet on the third Thursday or 1st Sunday lunch at West Horsley.

I should try popping down to a Surrey meet one day, any excuse to visit Brooklands. I'm in Thames Valley.