Thinking of buying a X type
Discussion
Well not me but a friend and he looks to me for all his motoring advice
He has a budget of around £6-£7k and mileage isnt that much of a consideration as this is a second car.
I've seen what look like some real nice cars around for that money, i'm thinking 2.0 or the 2.5. I've been warned off the auto's but anything else to really worry about or look for???
He has a budget of around £6-£7k and mileage isnt that much of a consideration as this is a second car.
I've seen what look like some real nice cars around for that money, i'm thinking 2.0 or the 2.5. I've been warned off the auto's but anything else to really worry about or look for???
FORGET the 2.1ltr for a start. It is gutless, Jaguar binned it, so nuff said! The 2.5ltr and 3.0ltr models are 4x4 and a great asset when owning the X-Type. The 2.0D is also not much point. The 2.2D is however a great car with plenty of power and very quiet, but you won't get one for the money you are shopping with, noer are the oil burners 4x4.
Go for the 3.0ltr SPORT model, they are quite rare, so the 2.5ltr will be easier to find. The mpg between the two is as near as the same. There is nothing wrong with the auotgearbox in either of these cars, in fact either is just as much fun, but if you want to drive the car for pleasure and fun go for the manual.
There is nothing really to look for as they are pretty much bullet proof, including the 4 wheel drive on the petrols. Just make sure the car has a FULL service history, steer clear of the high mileage rep mobiles, as there are plenty of excellent private cars around. For the money you will be looking at a '51/02 plate car. BEWARE of dodgy cars...
The sport has more snug seats, slightly firmer suspension and black wood dash over the SE model which has burr walnut and a more classic Jag feel.
The spec on these cars is extremely varied on the early models as the customers had to spec them to order. (Later they came with many of the options as standard -2004)
Make sure you have the climate control and electrc everything. The satnav is good, but rare to find.
Good luck, take your time. They are great cars don't let anyone say otherwise before you try.
Any more q's, fire away...
G
Go for the 3.0ltr SPORT model, they are quite rare, so the 2.5ltr will be easier to find. The mpg between the two is as near as the same. There is nothing wrong with the auotgearbox in either of these cars, in fact either is just as much fun, but if you want to drive the car for pleasure and fun go for the manual.
There is nothing really to look for as they are pretty much bullet proof, including the 4 wheel drive on the petrols. Just make sure the car has a FULL service history, steer clear of the high mileage rep mobiles, as there are plenty of excellent private cars around. For the money you will be looking at a '51/02 plate car. BEWARE of dodgy cars...
The sport has more snug seats, slightly firmer suspension and black wood dash over the SE model which has burr walnut and a more classic Jag feel.
The spec on these cars is extremely varied on the early models as the customers had to spec them to order. (Later they came with many of the options as standard -2004)
Make sure you have the climate control and electrc everything. The satnav is good, but rare to find.
Good luck, take your time. They are great cars don't let anyone say otherwise before you try.
Any more q's, fire away...
G
The guy wont go for the 3.0l , they arent at all interested in performance more intrested in keeping running cost down, whilst i may be able to persude them into a 2.5 i dont think the 3.0 litre will be a possibility .
Problems with the 4x4 system ie transfer box failures and the autobox seems to be troublesome according to Honest Johns webpage
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?md=...
Problems with the 4x4 system ie transfer box failures and the autobox seems to be troublesome according to Honest Johns webpage
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?md=...
My dad has had a 3.0 from new (Y reg) and had a new auto box as part of a recall. He has also had the tyre wear problem mentioned by HonestJohn and the driveline whining which has never really been sorted despite several attempts. The car has done 45k miles. Having said that the car has never failed to start or broken down.
I tried a 2006 diesel 2.0 manual as a courtesy car and thought it drove much better than my dad's early 3.0 auto so a younger manual car may be better.
I tried a 2006 diesel 2.0 manual as a courtesy car and thought it drove much better than my dad's early 3.0 auto so a younger manual car may be better.
liner33 said:
The guy wont go for the 3.0l , they arent at all interested in performance more intrested in keeping running cost down, whilst i may be able to persude them into a 2.5 i dont think the 3.0 litre will be a possibility .
Problems with the 4x4 system ie transfer box failures and the autobox seems to be troublesome according to Honest Johns webpage
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?md=...
Wouldn't even worry about the few minor issues that have been reported. If you are buying a used 50k miler and the car is sound, it will as good stay that way. Websites are a magnet for problems, no one ever talks about the good stuff.Problems with the 4x4 system ie transfer box failures and the autobox seems to be troublesome according to Honest Johns webpage
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/carbycar/index.htm?md=...
If you go for the 2.1ltr petrol, you will miss the point of the X-Type. I drove one as a courtesy car and truely hated the thing. the all wheel drive of the 2.5/3.0ltr is excellent. Like I said the official MPG between the two is 1MPG. I would therefore say, forget about buying the X-Type unless you can run the big V6 versions.
My 3.0ltr gave me 30MPG on the motorway, 20MPG around town and 25MPG average. There are small medium and large services on the X. A small is just a fluid check and oil change, my last one was £80 at an independant, the big one will be every 30k for about £300-400, should nothing be wrong.
G
Edited by Triple7 on Monday 24th September 21:17
Edited by Triple7 on Monday 24th September 21:17
I also recently bought an immaculate 2003 2.5 X-Type saloon with 23,000 miles on the clock. Having driven XKs mostly i can vouch that the X-Type is certainly a great car to drive.
I have already done some modifications like 18" wheels, rear spoiler, chrome upper and lower grilles and it has still cost me in all under £10k.
I have already done some modifications like 18" wheels, rear spoiler, chrome upper and lower grilles and it has still cost me in all under £10k.
I'm tentatively looking at an X-type 3.0 Sport as my next vehicle. This may perhaps be a stupid question to ask of a Jag, but how comfortable and adjustable are the seats?
Also, my old boss had a 2002 2.0 and he hated the clutch action on it, saying it was very springy. Is this a "characteristic" or perhaps just an issue with his model.
My local dealer has a '51 plate 3.0 manual sport due in shortly (red exterior with black leather int.) with about 50k on the clock. Are there any major services due around that mileage?
Thanks in advance.
Also, my old boss had a 2002 2.0 and he hated the clutch action on it, saying it was very springy. Is this a "characteristic" or perhaps just an issue with his model.
My local dealer has a '51 plate 3.0 manual sport due in shortly (red exterior with black leather int.) with about 50k on the clock. Are there any major services due around that mileage?
Thanks in advance.
Bill Carr said:
I'm tentatively looking at an X-type 3.0 Sport as my next vehicle. This may perhaps be a stupid question to ask of a Jag, but how comfortable and adjustable are the seats?
Also, my old boss had a 2002 2.0 and he hated the clutch action on it, saying it was very springy. Is this a "characteristic" or perhaps just an issue with his model.
My local dealer has a '51 plate 3.0 manual sport due in shortly (red exterior with black leather int.) with about 50k on the clock. Are there any major services due around that mileage?
Thanks in advance.
The 'Sport' models have narrow width seats at the hip/bum so could be an issue. The SE have a wider, less supportive seat, so maybe better fit for you. The early cars may not have the electric seats fitted, as every different movement button was an optional extra, so you will just have to check it out. But they move in most directions. Also, my old boss had a 2002 2.0 and he hated the clutch action on it, saying it was very springy. Is this a "characteristic" or perhaps just an issue with his model.
My local dealer has a '51 plate 3.0 manual sport due in shortly (red exterior with black leather int.) with about 50k on the clock. Are there any major services due around that mileage?
Thanks in advance.
As for the clutch, on my 3.0 ltr sport, thought it was perfect?
The red X's don't look that good IMHO and seem not to have sold as well. If you like then great, but expect to get a bit more off, over a black or silver model. Also check the interior is full leather. Most cars out there, have leather side bolsters and cloth seats. Jags work on servicing every 10k/12 months. Small, medium, big. They really are just fluid checks/oil changes. The big ones usually just spark plugs etc. So in a nut shell. No not really. If you buy from a main dealer, they WILL do the service for you. Its all part of buying used Jag.
G
Have done 
We saw a very nice ex Jaguar owned fleet car yesterday at a dealer and he has put a deposit on it for collection next week. We also drove a 2.0 Classic at another dealer but it was very rough , this one is very tidy despite almost 70k on the clock.
Same dealer has an 05 S type 2.7 diesel up for £9995 and i'm tempted myself
We saw a very nice ex Jaguar owned fleet car yesterday at a dealer and he has put a deposit on it for collection next week. We also drove a 2.0 Classic at another dealer but it was very rough , this one is very tidy despite almost 70k on the clock.
Same dealer has an 05 S type 2.7 diesel up for £9995 and i'm tempted myself
Triple7 said:
The 'Sport' models have narrow width seats at the hip/bum so could be an issue. The SE have a wider, less supportive seat, so maybe better fit for you. The early cars may not have the electric seats fitted, as every different movement button was an optional extra, so you will just have to check it out. But they move in most directions.
As for the clutch, on my 3.0 ltr sport, thought it was perfect?
The red X's don't look that good IMHO and seem not to have sold as well. If you like then great, but expect to get a bit more off, over a black or silver model. Also check the interior is full leather. Most cars out there, have leather side bolsters and cloth seats. Jags work on servicing every 10k/12 months. Small, medium, big. They really are just fluid checks/oil changes. The big ones usually just spark plugs etc. So in a nut shell. No not really. If you buy from a main dealer, they WILL do the service for you. Its all part of buying used Jag.
G
Cheers for the reply Triple7. I think seat width won't be a problem (I'm relatively slight), my interest was more with the actual composition of the seat, i.e. how hard/soft it is. My current steed has uber-supportive seats, but they're relatively hard and I've long struggled to dial out a numb bum/sore back. Shame, because the Celica is perfect besides that. I digress...As for the clutch, on my 3.0 ltr sport, thought it was perfect?
The red X's don't look that good IMHO and seem not to have sold as well. If you like then great, but expect to get a bit more off, over a black or silver model. Also check the interior is full leather. Most cars out there, have leather side bolsters and cloth seats. Jags work on servicing every 10k/12 months. Small, medium, big. They really are just fluid checks/oil changes. The big ones usually just spark plugs etc. So in a nut shell. No not really. If you buy from a main dealer, they WILL do the service for you. Its all part of buying used Jag.
G
The servicing as you describe it sounds fairly straightforward - are there no belt changes at any point?
I'm not sure whether the "red" as described to me is the bright red I've seen, or the more subdued maroon that I've seen some cars wearing. We shall see. I've always preferred Jags in dark blue, although my old man had a S-Type in black which looked pretty smart, albeit rather funereal! I'm in no hurry to buy so I shall wait until I find my perfect spec.
The X-Type four wheel drive system is the weak link of this car.Transfer boxes whine and are difficult and costly to fix,propshaft joints wear creating a whining noise in the car and they are also sensitive to tyres.Have a good drive in any one you are interested in and listen out for transmission noises!
Bill Carr said:
Triple7 said:
The 'Sport' models have narrow width seats at the hip/bum so could be an issue. The SE have a wider, less supportive seat, so maybe better fit for you. The early cars may not have the electric seats fitted, as every different movement button was an optional extra, so you will just have to check it out. But they move in most directions.
As for the clutch, on my 3.0 ltr sport, thought it was perfect?
The red X's don't look that good IMHO and seem not to have sold as well. If you like then great, but expect to get a bit more off, over a black or silver model. Also check the interior is full leather. Most cars out there, have leather side bolsters and cloth seats. Jags work on servicing every 10k/12 months. Small, medium, big. They really are just fluid checks/oil changes. The big ones usually just spark plugs etc. So in a nut shell. No not really. If you buy from a main dealer, they WILL do the service for you. Its all part of buying used Jag.
G
Cheers for the reply Triple7. I think seat width won't be a problem (I'm relatively slight), my interest was more with the actual composition of the seat, i.e. how hard/soft it is. My current steed has uber-supportive seats, but they're relatively hard and I've long struggled to dial out a numb bum/sore back. Shame, because the Celica is perfect besides that. I digress...As for the clutch, on my 3.0 ltr sport, thought it was perfect?
The red X's don't look that good IMHO and seem not to have sold as well. If you like then great, but expect to get a bit more off, over a black or silver model. Also check the interior is full leather. Most cars out there, have leather side bolsters and cloth seats. Jags work on servicing every 10k/12 months. Small, medium, big. They really are just fluid checks/oil changes. The big ones usually just spark plugs etc. So in a nut shell. No not really. If you buy from a main dealer, they WILL do the service for you. Its all part of buying used Jag.
G
The servicing as you describe it sounds fairly straightforward - are there no belt changes at any point?
I'm not sure whether the "red" as described to me is the bright red I've seen, or the more subdued maroon that I've seen some cars wearing. We shall see. I've always preferred Jags in dark blue, although my old man had a S-Type in black which looked pretty smart, albeit rather funereal! I'm in no hurry to buy so I shall wait until I find my perfect spec.
try before you buy.
5 wh said:
The X-Type four wheel drive system is the weak link of this car.Transfer boxes whine and are difficult and costly to fix,propshaft joints wear creating a whining noise in the car and they are also sensitive to tyres.Have a good drive in any one you are interested in and listen out for transmission noises!
True they can whine, but they don't fail.G
Triple7 said:
5 wh said:
The X-Type four wheel drive system is the weak link of this car.Transfer boxes whine and are difficult and costly to fix,propshaft joints wear creating a whining noise in the car and they are also sensitive to tyres.Have a good drive in any one you are interested in and listen out for transmission noises!
True they can whine, but they don't fail.G
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