Exactly how much will an XJ12 hurt my wallet?
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My Daimler Double Six (1994) cost about £4k to buy and, in the year I owned it, it cost about £3k to maintain. Excluding fuel (11mpg around London). I am glad I bought it - as Clarkson said 'Your motoring eduction is not complete until you have owned a Jaguar'...my education is complete - now drive an Omega and BMW 5 series.
Every time it went to the garage, my wallet opened wider than I thought possible..even little things seem to cost a packet.
Not sure of availablity of parts e.g. cat but hey, life is not a rehersal..this is the real thing
Every time it went to the garage, my wallet opened wider than I thought possible..even little things seem to cost a packet.
Not sure of availablity of parts e.g. cat but hey, life is not a rehersal..this is the real thing
Well, the first service cost about £1300..this included a bit of work getting the electric seat headrest to work again, replacing rear door handle....the second service cost about £600...the oxygen sensor light was on when i bought the car and could not find out the cause - replaced the right hand side cat (with downpipe) and that did not fix the problem.
thing is, i drove on the M25 once and got caught in traffic...hot july day...never missed a beat..no sign of overheating....
mind you, i used to get 1mpg when accelerating hard...and i am sure you can see the fuel gauge going down as i drive...21 mpg at 70mph....
thing is, i drove on the M25 once and got caught in traffic...hot july day...never missed a beat..no sign of overheating....
mind you, i used to get 1mpg when accelerating hard...and i am sure you can see the fuel gauge going down as i drive...21 mpg at 70mph....
derestrictor said:
I wonder how many PHers look at that and laugh the laugh whilst weeping the tears of empathetic cognizance?
Don't penny pinch on running one either or it'll turn to scrap very quickly. The V12 engines are actually very reliable, it's all the other bits that aren't.... I DIY'ed mine most of the time and it was fine, it just takes longer.
The 6.0L X300s are darn near bulletproof. I havent messed with them in a while but up until around 2005 I was an independent used car dealer in Florida and sold truckloads of X300s.
I sold a 95 XJ12 to a customer in New Jersey in 2003 and we've stayed in touch here and there... when I sold the car it had about 80k miles on it, it was one of about 9 or 10 XJ12s that we handled (They're very rare over here as well) and the car currently has about 175k miles on it as of last fall and is still running beautifully.
Forget anything that you've heard about the 5.3s, the 6.0L is a fantastic engine. And the sound they make on startup is like that of an aircraft.. just magical.
As far as fuel consumption goes.. I found that cruising at 80mph on the highway that an AJ16 X300 4.0L would get 22-23 US MPG and an XJ12 would get 19 US MPG. In town the 4.0s got 17 MPG US and the 6,0s 14 US MPG. At 2,000 miles per year what are we talking.. an extra 10-20 gallons if that?
Besides, there's something VERY special about driving a V12 Jaguar
I sold a 95 XJ12 to a customer in New Jersey in 2003 and we've stayed in touch here and there... when I sold the car it had about 80k miles on it, it was one of about 9 or 10 XJ12s that we handled (They're very rare over here as well) and the car currently has about 175k miles on it as of last fall and is still running beautifully.
Forget anything that you've heard about the 5.3s, the 6.0L is a fantastic engine. And the sound they make on startup is like that of an aircraft.. just magical.
As far as fuel consumption goes.. I found that cruising at 80mph on the highway that an AJ16 X300 4.0L would get 22-23 US MPG and an XJ12 would get 19 US MPG. In town the 4.0s got 17 MPG US and the 6,0s 14 US MPG. At 2,000 miles per year what are we talking.. an extra 10-20 gallons if that?
Besides, there's something VERY special about driving a V12 Jaguar
The difference isn't as vast as it once was...
But you guys have dirt cheap used cars... you would NEVER find a nice X300 XJ12 here for what that car is selling for. A mint condition X300 XJ12 over here could run $8-10,000 US... heck, a beautiful 2nd Generation XJ40 XJ12 just sold for $7500 on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-XJ12-Coronado-...
All XJ40 XJ12s sold in the USA were sold as 94s, the early cars have the BBS-Style wheels, single airbags and earlier style seats, later ones have the 20-spoke wheels, newer style seats and dual airbags and command higher prices.
Granted all US-Spec XJ12s have Daimler interiors but still... they aren't half as cheap as they are in the UK.
But you guys have dirt cheap used cars... you would NEVER find a nice X300 XJ12 here for what that car is selling for. A mint condition X300 XJ12 over here could run $8-10,000 US... heck, a beautiful 2nd Generation XJ40 XJ12 just sold for $7500 on eBay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1994-XJ12-Coronado-...
All XJ40 XJ12s sold in the USA were sold as 94s, the early cars have the BBS-Style wheels, single airbags and earlier style seats, later ones have the 20-spoke wheels, newer style seats and dual airbags and command higher prices.
Granted all US-Spec XJ12s have Daimler interiors but still... they aren't half as cheap as they are in the UK.
That'll be a Series 3 V12 which is a completely different car to the later XJ40/X300 ones discussed earlier.
Chances are it will be rotten - around the headlights, bottom of the wings and doors, wheelarches, rear suspension radius arm mounts, around the front and rear screens and jacking points to name just some of the corrosion prone areas.
It'll be fitted with a 5.3l engine which is a earlier incanation of the V12 and not a 6.0l and have a 3 speed auto box. You'll be doing very well indeed to achieve anything more than mid to high teens MPG.
If you buy a really good example and are prepared to spend time and money on looking after it then a S3 is a lovely car to own. Along with the replacement XJ40 it's probably the most comfortable XJ ever made.
Buy a rough one, or one that's suffered the effects of long term storage or neglect and it'll be a moneypit.
Chances are it will be rotten - around the headlights, bottom of the wings and doors, wheelarches, rear suspension radius arm mounts, around the front and rear screens and jacking points to name just some of the corrosion prone areas.
It'll be fitted with a 5.3l engine which is a earlier incanation of the V12 and not a 6.0l and have a 3 speed auto box. You'll be doing very well indeed to achieve anything more than mid to high teens MPG.
If you buy a really good example and are prepared to spend time and money on looking after it then a S3 is a lovely car to own. Along with the replacement XJ40 it's probably the most comfortable XJ ever made.
Buy a rough one, or one that's suffered the effects of long term storage or neglect and it'll be a moneypit.
This one looks minty http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Jaguar-XJ-Series-6-0-aut...
But they're never going to get £12k for it.
But they're never going to get £12k for it.
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