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Pints
Original Poster
14,707 posts
63 months
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SWMBO has her heart set on replacing the TDI (140 mk5) with an R32.
Since we no longer do high mileage in the TDI it's hard to reason against it.
However, given the £400+ VED and higher insurance, I'm sure this would be a bad idea in the long run.
Do I really want to be fitting to child seats to the leather rear seats? Are the extra cylinders going to hurt my wallet at service intervals? Is 250bhp safe in the hands of Mrs Pints (sweeping generalisations accepted)?
In short, what are the downsides of replacing our reliable 108k miler (albeit diesel) with its much bigger V6 brother?
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Freakuk
486 posts
20 months
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You've mentioned the tax, fuel you'll be looking at 25-27 mpg around town 30 at a push on the motorway. VW servicing will cost you an arm and a leg so go to a decent specialist, other thing is insurance high risk motor I swapped mine for a newer boxster tax was half that of the golf and insurance didn't change...
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SBN
460 posts
21 months
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A v6 hatch are becoming rare beasts in today's society. If you can afford it then buy one as it will sound better, go faster, and leather seats with kids is a must for all the mess they make.
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Pints
Original Poster
14,707 posts
63 months
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Freakuk said: You've mentioned the tax, fuel you'll be looking at 25-27 mpg around town 30 at a push on the motorway. VW servicing will cost you an arm and a leg so go to a decent specialist, other thing is insurance high risk motor I swapped mine for a newer boxster tax was half that of the golf and insurance didn't change... Funnily enough I did ask her to consider a Boxster but was told I wasn't to be daft. Where was she going to fit the HalfPints and the bags of groceries.
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Spanna
1,501 posts
45 months
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The earlier R32's miss the big tax bracket and are £260 for 12 months rather than £400.
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Pints
Original Poster
14,707 posts
63 months
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Spanna said: The earlier R32's miss the big tax bracket and are £260 for 12 months rather than £400. Rather annoyingly the one she has her eye on is early 2007 which is the higher tax. If she persists with this idea I may have to insist she be less picky about spec (I.e. Colour) and mileage, and look at the earlier options.
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Cupramax
2,954 posts
121 months
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You want one registered before 26th March 2006 to duck under the high tax. You can check a vehicles first registration date by putting the reg number in here.. click "next" and put the reg number and vehicle make. https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app...
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Biggriff
1,902 posts
153 months
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I have owned lots of exotica and I can genuinely say I miss the R32 more than any of them. Its a complete package
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juan king
747 posts
58 months
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Pints, you're in the total opposite situation of most blokes on PH and complaining?
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Nick1point9
3,430 posts
49 months
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Why not get a GTI? more of them around, significantly cheaper insurance, significantly cheaper to buy, cheaper tax, can get them with plenty of options. But most importantly it will still be a step up from your TDI.
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Adrian E
456 posts
45 months
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Get a seat protector from Amazon etc and it'll stop the leather getting marked from fitting an isofix seat.
As for the R32, a GTI isn't significantly slower in standard trim and being a turbo will map to more power (as well as less weight) for relatively little cost and a smaller fuel/service bill.
They're nice stealthy cars, but really only worth having if you have a V6 itch to scratch.
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Ved
1,469 posts
44 months
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Sorry, Pints. R32 is a great car. Work out £200 extra for tax over the year and try to use that as an excuse  It won't work. I've had mine for 12 months covering 23,000 miles and it has not missed a beat averaging 30.1 mpg (indicated).
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cuprabob
2,491 posts
83 months
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Cupramax said: You want one registered before 26th March 2006 to duck under the high tax. You can check a vehicles first registration date by putting the reg number in here.. click "next" and put the reg number and vehicle make. https://www.taxdisc.direct.gov.uk/EvlPortalApp/app...Sorry for being pedantic but it's actually the 23rd March 2006. Op, once you hear the V6 burble you will be smitten :-) In my experience the MK5 R32 is a great allrounder and the last of an era.
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Pints
Original Poster
14,707 posts
63 months
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juan king said: Pints, you're in the total opposite situation of most blokes on PH and complaining?  I'm obviously not a powerfully built CD. I love the idea, I'm hoping to hear some of the things I should be on the lookout for and the best way to do it without it bankrupting me. I do love Mrs Pints for her motoring passion though.
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Pints
Original Poster
14,707 posts
63 months
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Nick1point9 said: Why not get a GTI? more of them around, significantly cheaper insurance, significantly cheaper to buy, cheaper tax, can get them with plenty of options. But most importantly it will still be a step up from your TDI. I offered her the GTI and was browsing the classifieds last night to give her the options. Her response? It's just not the same as the R32. She has a point.
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Adrian E
456 posts
45 months
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Could always go for a B6/7 S4 if you really want to scratch the cubic inches itch - ok you can't get it in a hatch, but saloon or estate covers most requirements? It's a 'proper' quattro so no haldex to mess about with - proper tiptronic auto too, if wanted. Much bigger engine granted but tax and insurance will not vary much and I doubt fuel economy will be much different in the real world
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RC1
2,058 posts
88 months
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im in a mk4 r32 at the moment and yes the fuel economy is pants compared to newer cars but given what you can pick one up for you can have a large slush fund to run it compared to the saving on buying a mk 5
ex fuel servicing and insurance are all reasonable for a v6 lump that used to be a popular choice for armed robbers....
as has been said before its a good all rounder
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GetCarter
16,732 posts
148 months
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I had one... disappointing performance (it's WAY too heavy and poor BHP per ton), but well screwed together - great seats. Sounds okay, 4X4 gubbins restricts space in the boot. 30mpg if you're lucky. I'd steer clear if I were you, unless you really need 4x4
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Fort Jefferson
7,000 posts
91 months
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Get one, but make sure it has three pedals.
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SuperchargedVR6
855 posts
89 months
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Pints said: I offered her the GTI and was browsing the classifieds last night to give her the options.
Her response? It's just not the same as the R32.
She has a point. Yes she does. And you will see her point too when you drive one. Yes the GTI is cheaper and can be more powerful, but it's no R32. The R32 has a planted feel on the road that only 4WD and can give you, not to mention a much smoother and significantly more charismatic engine. The TFSI lump is a rattley sounding unrefined thing that chews through oil and petrol. A hard driven TFSI returns no more miles per gallon than an R32 does, but at least with the 32, you will be getting more smiles per miles and a LOT more traction in bad weather. If you can afford it, don't settle for the GTI consolation prize, get the Mac Daddy R32. You will love it. Buy a DSG, get it Revo'd, fit the Haldex blue controller and then launch it in the wet and tell me I'm wrong
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