mk2 Golf- VR6 Conversion
Discussion
aka_kerrly said:
I'd say a lot is to do with how it's set up and the condition of the cables. I'm not much of a fan of cable change though in less there is a short shifter attached.
Also worth mentioning the GTI 16v mk3 box final drive on a VR is very worthwhile, 3.69 iirc means you can still hit 140mph ,3rd,4th are brutal plus it is much better on track as you don't need to drop into 2nd at 60mph!
I meant for clutch!Also worth mentioning the GTI 16v mk3 box final drive on a VR is very worthwhile, 3.69 iirc means you can still hit 140mph ,3rd,4th are brutal plus it is much better on track as you don't need to drop into 2nd at 60mph!
I'd go cable change and hydraulic clutch all day!!! So much easier to use!
der1 said:
How hard will it be to go widetrack on this conversion ?
Easy, mk3/Corrado subframe bolts too the mk2 chassis. For the rear, you can either swap the beams but from measuring there isn't a massive benefit to be gained by doing this, it's easier to keep the mk2 beam and fit 5x100 rear discs. 
got as far as taking the bumper and grill off, then patched it for writing my personal statement for uni! gonna be a long one this 
der1 said:
Was it easier ?
yep.front end off with rad, leave hoses on the block.
Unplug engine bay and light looms from fusebox and feed through bulkhead
Matrix coolant hoses, remove from matrix
undo exhaust, clutch line, speedo, gear linkage, PAS lines, Steering UJ, Fuel lines, remove everything else from its housing, so water bottle, ecu and put it all ontop of the engine.
Unplug everything off the CAR not the engine, that way you don't have to label the loom, the engine loom is big white connectors, the lighting loom is big yellow plugs in the fusebox. if its a mk3 donor, the lighting loom and engine loom are wrapped together, if its a corrado they are seperate.
check, you WILL forget something.
then put the donor on stands, remove wheels, undo strut bolts where they meet the upright, front x-member bolts, and all subframe bolts. make sure the engine is supported, use a crane or jack or both. once its out the bay, wheels back on and you can move it about.
JB! said:
aka_kerrly said:
I'd say a lot is to do with how it's set up and the condition of the cables. I'm not much of a fan of cable change though in less there is a short shifter attached.
Also worth mentioning the GTI 16v mk3 box final drive on a VR is very worthwhile, 3.69 iirc means you can still hit 140mph ,3rd,4th are brutal plus it is much better on track as you don't need to drop into 2nd at 60mph!
I meant for clutch!Also worth mentioning the GTI 16v mk3 box final drive on a VR is very worthwhile, 3.69 iirc means you can still hit 140mph ,3rd,4th are brutal plus it is much better on track as you don't need to drop into 2nd at 60mph!
I'd go cable change and hydraulic clutch all day!!! So much easier to use!
I thought the MK3 16V used a 3.94 C&P? The 3.68 C&P usually comes from the Corrado G60's 02A.
NicDale said:
In my opinion, better than a Corrado VR6 'if' done correctly.
And what 'is' the correct way to do it?I've owned both and imo, the Corrado was better.
SuperchargedVR6 said:
I thought for a minute there were rumblings of using the 020 gearbox on a VR6 in there!
I thought the MK3 16V used a 3.94 C&P? The 3.68 C&P usually comes from the Corrado G60's 02A.
I've owned both and imo, the Corrado was better.
You wouldn't ever put a 16 gearbox on a VR6 as the bellhousing is different but you can swap the internals from a 16v into a VR6 housing. I thought the MK3 16V used a 3.94 C&P? The 3.68 C&P usually comes from the Corrado G60's 02A.
NicDale said:
In my opinion, better than a Corrado VR6 'if' done correctly.
And what 'is' the correct way to do it?I've owned both and imo, the Corrado was better.
The GTI 16v (mk3 ABF engined)comes with a 3.68FD DPA code box.
To give you an idea of what it can do, a standard 2.8 VR6 with 3.3FD does 100mph at 3955rpm where as with the 3.68FD this is 4422rpm.
The biggest difference comes is 2nd gear top speed with 3.68 is 63mph and 3rd 92mph. With the original gearing the top speeds are 69mph and 103mph - i.e far too long for use in the UK.
Oh and I agree a Corrado is a better car than a mk2, the build quality is much higher.
aka_kerrly said:
Oh and I agree a Corrado is a better car than a mk2, the build quality is much higher.
Wait. What?Certainly not in my experience!!! Shocking electrics, switchgear that always breaks!!!
Look awesome but can be a total arse to live with. A friend breaks them, and its the electrical items that are best sellers.
aka_kerrly said:
Oh and I agree a Corrado is a better car than a mk2, the build quality is much higher.
Wait. What?Certainly not in my experience!!! Shocking electrics, switchgear that always breaks!!!
Look awesome but can be a total arse to live with. A friend breaks them, and its the electrical items that are best sellers.
JB! said:
aka_kerrly said:
Oh and I agree a Corrado is a better car than a mk2, the build quality is much higher.
Wait. What?Certainly not in my experience!!! Shocking electrics, switchgear that always breaks!!!
Look awesome but can be a total arse to live with. A friend breaks them, and its the electrical items that are best sellers.
That and having stripped/rebuilt many mk2s the quality of the interior trims, door cards, headlining, sound deadening is not that of a corrado nor is the quality of the metalwork. Yes corrado wings rot around the indicator holes but nothing compared to the way mk2s rot - although mostly due to iffy designs like the sunroof draining holes, the drain holes on the bottoms of the doors and boot.
PS - I LOVE mk2 golfs and am still restoring a GTI 16v, so please don't think I am so kind of Corrado elitist.
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