Lease on Golf R

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add1ct3dd

125 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Me too lol, still getting updates for my old order xD

jamiehamy

360 posts

176 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I got an update saying mine was in in transit. my broker has never come up with an alternative deal so not sure what we're going to do. ah well.

Dmoe

6 posts

149 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Anyone got a contact details for phil could email me? Thanks.

new666uk

184 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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CarlT said:
BreakingBad said:
Pixelpeep7r said:
BreakingBad said:
build / delivery should not be affected.
Can we clarify the use of the word 'should' please.
Well, he told me that all orders will be shown as stage 1 in an error from someone pushing the wrong button in Munich. Mine is still showing stage 2 at the moment but he said it will show as stage 1, along with all Golf orders.
The "should" was my phrasing: Phil said it was purely a glitch and orders were not affected.
Hope that clarifies.
smile
Munich? Are those pesky BMW makers involved?

Yes, apparently they intercept the Golf R's and tune them so M135i's are slightly quicker wink

zermattbusby

169 posts

140 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I've received a stage 2 notice via text and email for an order that supposedly got cancelled back in June rolleyes

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

142 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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BMW

316 bhp
332 lb ft
4.9 sec 0-60
37.7mpg
175g/km

GOLF-R

297bhp
280lb ft
4.9 sec 0-60
40.9mpg
159g/km

its a close call, but golf wins on fuel.. woohoo!

add1ct3dd

125 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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It wins overall as a car anyway tbh. :]

The BMW will be useless in Winter, won't have as good handling (unless you want it tail-happy), and is beating the BMW in reviews anyway. Oh, that and the BMW looks totally boring!

Dr Interceptor

7,786 posts

196 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Pixelpeep7r said:
BMW

316 bhp
332 lb ft
4.9 sec 0-60
37.7mpg
175g/km

GOLF-R

297bhp
280lb ft
4.9 sec 0-60
40.9mpg
159g/km

its a close call, but golf wins on fuel.. woohoo!
You won't get 40.9mpg... trust me biggrin

imran9999

278 posts

122 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Just gave my dealer a call....

My prov build date has now slipped from week 38 to week 46 (Nov 10th)!!!! I ordered 9th june....5dr manual in lapiz blue frown
I may have to cancel if delivery is going to be not till December.

Dealer mentioned that the factory adjusts orders every friday depending on supply/demand and possibility it may jump back up.

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

142 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Dr Interceptor said:
Pixelpeep7r said:
BMW

316 bhp
332 lb ft
4.9 sec 0-60
37.7mpg
175g/km

GOLF-R

297bhp
280lb ft
4.9 sec 0-60
40.9mpg
159g/km

its a close call, but golf wins on fuel.. woohoo!
You won't get 40.9mpg... trust me biggrin
No, but ill get better in the golf than if i was driving the BMW - that's all i need to know smile

new666uk

184 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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add1ct3dd]It wins overall as a car anyway tbh. : said:
The BMW will be useless in Winter, won't have as good handling (unless you want it tail-happy), and is beating the BMW in reviews anyway. Oh, that and the BMW looks totally boring!
Having actually driven both I went for BMW. The Golf sounds better all the time in Race but it's too artificial for my liking. The BMW is muted in sport until 3k+ revs when the sound is augmented but still more natural in tone. Besides - 6cyl is always better than 4cyl. At the Americans would say, there's no replacement for displacement. The natural kinetic energy a 6 (or 8 / 10 / 12) pot gives over a 4 pot is beneficial at lower speeds.

I've had RWD since I was 21 so it's totally natural for me that two wheels turn, the other two push. Why do you think all serious motorsport is RWD? I agree that in the winter it won't be much fun but with plenty of winters under my belt I've not slid off the road yet. My concern with the Golf was as it's still predominantly FWD, it will chew front tyres. Remember it's only when they lose traction that grunt is quickly transferred to the back.

On paper they are extremely close. I've not seen a Golf R to play against yet (and I'm still running in the M135) but suspect there's not much in it in the dry.

I thought the Golf looked dull - just a Golf with big pipes. Aside from that nothing special.

BreakingBad

325 posts

117 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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^^^^
Well, there you go, folks: why we don't all drive around in identical cars, in a nutshell. smile

Jazzer

1,674 posts

204 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I've driven both hard.

In the dry....neck and neck in a straight line, but the R is far more composed down B roads.....where the Beemer is beginning to get ragged, the R will be composed and will move away easily....the 135i is surprisingly poor in this environment.

In the wet.....R rules.

The handling and damping in the R is fabulous, it really is a great B-road weapon.

The R looks rather classy too.

Edited by Jazzer on Wednesday 30th July 16:46

Jazzer

1,674 posts

204 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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I've driven both hard.

In the dry....neck and neck in a straight line, but the R is far more composed down B roads.....where the Beemer is beginning to get ragged, the R will be composed and will move away easily....the 135i is surprisingly poor in this environment.

In the wet.....R rules.

The handling and damping in the R is fabulous, it really is a great B-road weapon.

The R looks rather classy too.

Edited by Jazzer on Wednesday 30th July 16:48

daz05

2,908 posts

195 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Really? Haven't driven the 1'er, I have an R on order but compared against my EDC equipped M3 on a local b road it didn't feel as composed and I felt quite distant from the experience.

new666uk

184 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Jazzer said:
I've driven both hard.

In the dry....neck and neck in a straight line, but the R is far more composed down B roads.....where the Beemer is beginning to get ragged, the R will be composed and will move away easily....the 135i is surprisingly poor in this environment.

In the dry.....R rules.

The handling and damping in the R is fabulous, it really is a great B-road weapon.

The R looks rather classy too.
Horses for courses. I'm not trying to spark off another my cars better than your car debate. Both do things in their own way and have strengths and weaknesses. Yes, the M135 has a firm suspension and is crashy on a poor B road (pretty much all of them!) The Golf would certainly have an edge there.



add1ct3dd

125 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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new666uk said:
Having actually driven both I went for BMW. The Golf sounds better all the time in Race but it's too artificial for my liking. The BMW is muted in sport until 3k+ revs when the sound is augmented but still more natural in tone. Besides - 6cyl is always better than 4cyl. At the Americans would say, there's no replacement for displacement. The natural kinetic energy a 6 (or 8 / 10 / 12) pot gives over a 4 pot is beneficial at lower speeds.

I've had RWD since I was 21 so it's totally natural for me that two wheels turn, the other two push. Why do you think all serious motorsport is RWD? I agree that in the winter it won't be much fun but with plenty of winters under my belt I've not slid off the road yet. My concern with the Golf was as it's still predominantly FWD, it will chew front tyres. Remember it's only when they lose traction that grunt is quickly transferred to the back.

On paper they are extremely close. I've not seen a Golf R to play against yet (and I'm still running in the M135) but suspect there's not much in it in the dry.

I thought the Golf looked dull - just a Golf with big pipes. Aside from that nothing special.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not turning it into a 4wd vs rwd vs fwd argument, simply stating that the 4wd in an everyday world is more practical when it comes to winter smile. I said to myself my next car was going to be RWD, and then this came along so that quickly changed.

Thats what made me go for the R in the first place imo, it does everything I wanted, and has the power when I want/need it smile. When I don't want the power, it's a nice cruiser with all the "extras" that you get on the standard spec imo (say compared to the S3).

Either way, I'm sure everyone would be happy with either car in all honesty.

To throw more into the mix, my friend and I did some tests vs his 335d X-drive. He has slightly quicker launches, however mid-range is identical, and then I pull away at the top end. Completely different cars, but similar power, so depends on circumstances smile.

new666uk

184 posts

118 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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add1ct3dd said:
Don't get me wrong, I'm not turning it into a 4wd vs rwd vs fwd argument, simply stating that the 4wd in an everyday world is more practical when it comes to winter smile. I said to myself my next car was going to be RWD, and then this came along so that quickly changed.

Thats what made me go for the R in the first place imo, it does everything I wanted, and has the power when I want/need it smile. When I don't want the power, it's a nice cruiser with all the "extras" that you get on the standard spec imo (say compared to the S3).
Well we agree on something then wink

I pootle about in eco pro mode until I see something on the horizon I want then flick into sport and reel it in. In terms of wafting along, both cars are effortless and genuine Jeckyl and Hyde's when it comes to their potential.

I've never had a winter where I couldn't get the car to work and back, even that -15 winter we had about 5 years ago. It just doesn't phase me at all.

barrieeld

528 posts

216 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Hi there folks ordered my car (build week 41) this month (although I am not fussed the later the better for me) and was wondering when is the est delivery for this slot was now based on the delays some are facing...I was going to phone the dealer but like I said I'm not fussed just curious

B.

ollielloyd

63 posts

117 months

Wednesday 30th July 2014
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Pixelpeep7r said:
BMW

316 bhp
332 lb ft
4.9 sec 0-60
37.7mpg
175g/km

GOLF-R

297bhp
280lb ft
4.9 sec 0-60
40.9mpg
159g/km

its a close call, but golf wins on fuel.. woohoo!
Golf R is 0-62 4.9
0-60 is 4.5