Lease on Golf R

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silentbrown

8,842 posts

116 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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georgefreeman said:
Is this expensive in comparison to what others have got?
Most others on this thread have been discussing leasing a Golf R (i.e. you never, ever own it.) You're asking about buying one on a PCP plan, which is totally different.

PCP : Add up your deposit, the monthly payments and the 'guaranteed final value' (which you haven't mentioned) to find what you're actually paying to buy the car. Alternative would be taking out a cheap bank loan to cover the cost of car less deposit, and seeing what the figures come out to at the end.

Also don't forget that a: You should be able to negotiate around 10% off list on the base figure plus options, and b: VW UK will be putting a £750 'deposit contribution' into the deal. This should be in addition to the part-ex value the dealer has offered you,.



Edited by silentbrown on Sunday 15th February 21:46

georgefreeman

214 posts

113 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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silentbrown said:
Most others on this thread have been discussing leasing a Golf R (i.e. you never, ever own it.) You're asking about buying one on a PCP plan, which is totally different.

PCP : Add up your deposit, the monthly payments and the 'guaranteed final value' (which you haven't mentioned) to find what you're actually paying to buy the car. Alternative would be taking out a cheap bank loan to cover the cost of car less deposit, and seeing what the figures come out to at the end.

Also don't forget that a: You should be able to negotiate around 10% off list on the base figure plus options, and b: VW UK will be putting a £750 'deposit contribution' into the deal. This should be in addition to the part-ex value the dealer has offered you,.



Edited by silentbrown on Sunday 15th February 21:46
Thanks for the info. Definitely some other bits worth considering. In terms of negotiating 10% off, the figures I quoted were online I would expect some see some improvements on the price when I schedule another meeting with the dealership.

Guaranteed final value, I'm just about to google it but in simple terms....?

Thanks in advance

silentbrown

8,842 posts

116 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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georgefreeman said:
Guaranteed final value, I'm just about to google it but in simple terms....?
PCP Deal works like this: You pay a deposit, and then borrow the remaining £££ from the finance company. Each month you pay interest on the outstanding balance, and the remainder of your monthly payment pays off some capital.

But after your 4 years are up you'll only have paid off about (say) 60% of the total cost of the car. The remaining balance (=GFV) is calculated by the finance co. to be what the car will be worth at that point, assuming you stick to the agreed mileage. You can either hand back the keys and walk away at this point, or buy the car for the GFV plus some paperwork costs. Dealers will try and tell you that the car may be worth MORE than the GFV and you can use the difference as a deposit on a new deal, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Based on your figures, I'd expect they've set a GFV of around 12K after 4 years. See here for a useful calculator. http://www.pcpcal.co.uk/


C8LNJ

1,689 posts

177 months

Sunday 15th February 2015
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GilesyGee said:
Vertu Volkswagen Nottingham.

So assuming build week 11 then I've been told 5 weeks to delivery would be accurate. Week 16 / end of April.


Edited by C8LNJ on Friday 13th February 09:28
Hi, when did you actually place your order? I ordered Oct 27th and my tracker still says 'with the factory'...
C8LNJ said:
I placed my order on the 28th October.

The Stiglet

2,062 posts

194 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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I have a question as I'm not familiar with leasing - is servicing included in these deals?

AGK

1,601 posts

155 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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The Stiglet said:
I have a question as I'm not familiar with leasing - is servicing included in these deals?
Not unless you go for a maintained contract. Excess mileage charge is usually higher on a maintained contract too.

The Stiglet

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194 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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AGK said:
Not unless you go for a maintained contract. Excess mileage charge is usually higher on a maintained contract too.
Thanks.

These deals are incredible really for what you get. I'm very surprised. Although they don't seem to be specced with Satnav/pano-roof and the 19 inch Pretorias. I've asked one company how much that would be on top but suspect it will be a significant extra. I couldn't live without satnav though

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

142 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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AGK said:
The Stiglet said:
I have a question as I'm not familiar with leasing - is servicing included in these deals?
Not unless you go for a maintained contract. Excess mileage charge is usually higher on a maintained contract too.
ppm excess was 6p for me, raising to 11ppm with maintenance and tyre cover.

AGK

1,601 posts

155 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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The Stiglet said:
Thanks.

These deals are incredible really for what you get. I'm very surprised. Although they don't seem to be specced with Satnav/pano-roof and the 19 inch Pretorias. I've asked one company how much that would be on top but suspect it will be a significant extra. I couldn't live without satnav though
Extras don't affect residuals so take the price of the extra and divide it by the term to give you a rough idea.


Pixelpeep7r said:
ppm excess was 6p for me, raising to 11ppm with maintenance and tyre cover.
That's pretty good actually.

foreverfalling

527 posts

165 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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Here is the extras list from when I ordered...

Having never bought a new car I was surprised how many extras were available and slightly disappointed how many things didn't come as standard, but paying £205 per month I wasn't going to double my lease with options! (Fully specced it would add 379.90 +vat per month onto the lease!! haha)

I went for this deal because it was cheap! The only option I ticked was metallic paint as its the one thing the MRS insisted - the car wasn't red!

All Prices PLUS V.A.T Per month!

19" Pretoria alloy wheels 36.17
Advance telephone connection 12.72
Climate comfort windscreen 11.92
Discover DVD navigation pro with 8.0'' colour touc 71.32
Discover navigation + European map data 30.30
Dynamic chassis control 32.93
Dynaudio sound pack - Golf Hatchback R 21.41
Electric sliding panoramic glass sunroof 37.18
Keyless entry 14.54
Lane assist 25.25
Rear view camera 6.66
Smoking pack - Golf Hatchback 0.60
Metallic Paint 21.60
Special solid - Pure white 10.30
Vienna leather - Black + heated front sports seats 69.50
Winter pack – Golf 18.10

The Stiglet

2,062 posts

194 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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Are the monthly deal prices only going to get more expensive as more cars come onto market?

foreverfalling

527 posts

165 months

Monday 16th February 2015
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The Stiglet said:
Are the monthly deal prices only going to get more expensive as more cars come onto market?
They aint getting any cheaper - very happy with price I got mine for smile

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

142 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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foreverfalling said:
19" Pretoria alloy wheels 36.17
Discover DVD navigation pro with 8.0'' colour touc 71.32
Vienna leather - Black + heated front sports seats 69.50
anyone, imo, that pays extra money for alloys on a lease is not thinking straight. the whole point of a lease is to save money vs buying the car outright

I understand why someone 'might' want the leather of the nav but really, £176.99+vat extra a month on a £220 lease just to have nav leather and an extra inch on their alloys ?

a must if you are buying but the complete opposite if leasing. Imo.

i wonder if the base R for leasing companies is like the newspapers for sweetshops, they lure you in for the main thing hoping you pick up some trinkets on the way to the till...?

The Stiglet

2,062 posts

194 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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Pixelpeep7r said:
foreverfalling said:
19" Pretoria alloy wheels 36.17
Discover DVD navigation pro with 8.0'' colour touc 71.32
Vienna leather - Black + heated front sports seats 69.50
anyone, imo, that pays extra money for alloys on a lease is not thinking straight. the whole point of a lease is to save money vs buying the car outright

I understand why someone 'might' want the leather of the nav but really, £176.99+vat extra a month on a £220 lease just to have nav leather and an extra inch on their alloys ?

a must if you are buying but the complete opposite if leasing. Imo.
My conclusion too. With the prices as they are now, it's madness. If I'd been interested in leasing an R and seen the £170 monthly deals then perhaps a different story though as I would struggle with the concept of a £30k without satnav.


DUMBO100

1,878 posts

184 months

Tuesday 17th February 2015
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My car is boggo and White but DSG and will be in the UK in 3 weeks according to the lease company

Tallow

1,624 posts

161 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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olly22n said:
Same here, I just went for a 5 door.

Also, just had delivery confirmed for 2nd March. smile
Looks like mine won't be... It's at the dealers now (actually I could have had it delivered on a 64 plate next week, but I am away). It seems that the first week of March is quite a busy delivery week for most dealers. You did well to get that delivery date I'd say!

Carlique

1,631 posts

164 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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Tallow said:
Looks like mine won't be... It's at the dealers now (actually I could have had it delivered on a 64 plate next week, but I am away). It seems that the first week of March is quite a busy delivery week for most dealers. You did well to get that delivery date I'd say!
Same here for myself. It seems a lot of people are waiting until March for their deliveries meaning mine can't be delivered until the 12th. It'll be 6 months to the day from ordering to delivery!irked

Tallow

1,624 posts

161 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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Carlique said:
Same here for myself. It seems a lot of people are waiting until March for their deliveries meaning mine can't be delivered until the 12th. It'll be 6 months to the day from ordering to delivery!irked
Blimey! I've not gotten a delivery date yet, but if it is that far out, I will be half tempted to go and collect it myself (hmmmm, maybe that's their plan.... scratchchin )

cslwannabe

1,408 posts

169 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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64 plate for me delivered on the 27th Feb - not bothered about having a 15 plate and the 640d goes back that day, plus VW dealer said they were fully booked 1st week of March for deliveries...

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

184 months

Wednesday 18th February 2015
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I've got a private plate to go on mine but not sure if I'll use it. Hopefully the reg isn't RM15FAT if it is at least I can hide it