Golf 1.4 TSI 150 GT DSG
Discussion
You'll note it was me who started this thread, so 18k miles & 10 months in I'm getting 44mpg - tracked on a spreadsheet using full to full tanks, the OBC over reads 1-2mpg each and every tank. Very occasionally I'll get 50+, but generally it's mid to high 40's on the OBC.
For smoothness & performance it's great. I forget how much I love being back in a petrol until a diesel starts up near me! Take into consideration that you will be visiting the petrol station more often, but that's a price well worth paying in my book. Sometimes I can get 500+ out of a tank. Also when I got it petrol was 4-6ppl cheaper than diesel!
Downsides, throttle response is appalling, not sure if it's the throttle possibly due to turbo lag or the DSG, it's being serviced this week so am hoping they might have some ideas!
For smoothness & performance it's great. I forget how much I love being back in a petrol until a diesel starts up near me! Take into consideration that you will be visiting the petrol station more often, but that's a price well worth paying in my book. Sometimes I can get 500+ out of a tank. Also when I got it petrol was 4-6ppl cheaper than diesel!
Downsides, throttle response is appalling, not sure if it's the throttle possibly due to turbo lag or the DSG, it's being serviced this week so am hoping they might have some ideas!
JackReacher said:
Mine has now done about 16k miles so must be due it's first service soon, long term average is 46.8mpg per the display. The economy is just one side of this engine, the other is pretty decent performance when you want it, and I enjoy driving it.
It's used about 700ml of oil so it does need watching but isn't a problem given the mileage I've done in that time.
Here is proof of what it can do, a run at Easter, driven sensibly but not with ultimate economy at mind at above average motorway speeds for part of it. I'm sure it would get close to 60 if really trying but that's no fun.
Incredible economy for a petrol, the diesel really offers very little above that! It's used about 700ml of oil so it does need watching but isn't a problem given the mileage I've done in that time.
Here is proof of what it can do, a run at Easter, driven sensibly but not with ultimate economy at mind at above average motorway speeds for part of it. I'm sure it would get close to 60 if really trying but that's no fun.
JB052 said:
Is anyone with a manual gearbox having similar problems to 'acme' with poor throttle response?
I suspect its the gearbox, the manual 1.4 TSI 140 I test drove had significantly better throttle response than my Golf GTD DSG doesThe throttle response on our Leon 150 ACT manual was a little tardy when brand new but I was driving a normally aspirated 6 cylinder 130i BMW at the time so perhaps an unfair comparison as that had hair trigger throttle response. It has improved now its run in (at ~6k miles now) and is absolutely fine now. The only thing I do very occasionally find is that it can bog down momentarily as you pull away if you don't quite pick the revs up as you engage the clutch, seems to do this more in sport mode for some reason. Nothing major, could be a bit disconcerting if pulling out of a junction with oncoming traffic until it picked back up but it's only happened a handful of times that I've driven it.
The throttle response on my manual is fine, similar to my old mk 5 gti, not as good as a decent NA petrol but way better than any diesel. I sometimes experience the "bogging down" mentioned above, think that's just small amount of turbo lag, and usually because I'm in the wrong gear!
I'm confuse why this ACT technology is not used on other engines, the 2.0t in the Gti, Leon cupra etc. If the 1.4 can cruise at 80mph on 2 cylinders, then surely the 2.0 could as well, with benefits to emissions and fuel economy.
I'm confuse why this ACT technology is not used on other engines, the 2.0t in the Gti, Leon cupra etc. If the 1.4 can cruise at 80mph on 2 cylinders, then surely the 2.0 could as well, with benefits to emissions and fuel economy.
va1o said:
I suspect its the gearbox, the manual 1.4 TSI 140 I test drove had significantly better throttle response than my Golf GTD DSG does
I think you're probably right. Often when going round certain roundabouts I'll drop it into manual and maintain say fourth, and it's better. I guess having access to other naturally aspirated 6 cylinder cars does make me compare them, even if I know I shouldn't!Re DSG, it's a personal thing, but if I was doing less miles I'd go manual, I think this engine with a manual gearbox would be superb. But that's a personal thing, and the DSG just about justifies itself with my mileage.
acme said:
Re DSG, it's a personal thing, but if I was doing less miles I'd go manual, I think this engine with a manual gearbox would be superb. But that's a personal thing, and the DSG just about justifies itself with my mileage.
Yeah for me I find diesels are better suited to the DSG, and I couldn't do the M25/ M4 everyday without! JB052 said:
Slightly off topic, but your views are appreciated.
Unlike the 'Match' the 1.4 TSI 150PS that I looked at today was really nice but had a piano black finish to the dash and centre console.
Does this scratch or mark easily?
It's not easy to keep clean, it shows every finger print etc, I think the key is if you clean it don't use a cloth you'd use on anything else that could pick up something which could scratch it, say in the same way when you polish a car you use cloths specifically for it. Unlike the 'Match' the 1.4 TSI 150PS that I looked at today was really nice but had a piano black finish to the dash and centre console.
Does this scratch or mark easily?
That said I really like the finish & think it lifts the interior and makes the GT spec stand out.
Bad news unfortunately, my Leon broke down. Coolant light came on, and then on inspection very little coolant left in the tank. It was topped up with water to get it home and Seat assist came out and it's been taken to a garage with a courtesy car (Ibiza), all handled very well so far. The guy who looked at it thinks it's the radiator. It was only serviced a few weeks ago.
All very frustrating as we had continuous coolant issues with our last A1
All very frustrating as we had continuous coolant issues with our last A1
JackReacher said:
Bad news unfortunately, my Leon broke down. Coolant light came on, and then on inspection very little coolant left in the tank. It was topped up with water to get it home and Seat assist came out and it's been taken to a garage with a courtesy car (Ibiza), all handled very well so far. The guy who looked at it thinks it's the radiator. It was only serviced a few weeks ago.
All very frustrating as we had continuous coolant issues with our last A1
I had that problem with an Ibiza a couple of years ago about a month out off warranty. Seemed to just be bad luck! Cause was a split radiator. All very frustrating as we had continuous coolant issues with our last A1
Last time I looked, mpg long term average per the computer was in the 47's. Car is now on about 20k miles and agree it has increased since new. Frequently see over 50 on longer runs.
Massively impressed with the car as a whole, just hope the radiator was a one off blip! Seat were also impressive, very helpful getting the car looked at quickly and kept us updated, with a 1.2 tsi Ibiza courtesy car which was fine, but glad to get the Leon back.
Massively impressed with the car as a whole, just hope the radiator was a one off blip! Seat were also impressive, very helpful getting the car looked at quickly and kept us updated, with a 1.2 tsi Ibiza courtesy car which was fine, but glad to get the Leon back.
Hi all! I received my Golf R-line in Oryx White last Thursday with 10 miles on the clock (1.4 TSI DSG 150ps).
After a lot of consideration and checking out tax payable the Rline inc fuel was around £244, the GTD around £340 and GTI was £440. I couldn't justify the extra amounts over the Rline working out at an extra £1200 - £2400 per year!
Overall found the car much pokier (obviously) than my last 1.6 diesel golf, however as some comments on here, with ACC running can be a little slow on the pick up and finding myself using the paddles in order to keep the gear reasonable so its not slugging away accelerating (probably programmed in the car to keep emissions down).
I know it is early days but I have averaged 35mpg (UK) since getting it (250 miles), having said that I have been fairly foot heavy, understandably to see the performance of the car. However on a couple of shorter runs to and from work yesterday and today I have been being as economical as I can be by basically letting ACC work most of the way and have hit around 46-51 mpg which I thought wasn't too bad. No motorway driving yet as I live out on a limb (East Anglia).
I will say compared to the old golf SE it is a remarkable upgrade apart from the lack of mute function on the steering wheel and the services that the head unit is capable of that aren't activated! Needing to pay a further £100 to get these unlocked is not something I am looking at doing!
Also don't know if anyone else has noticed the CO2 from the Rline is 110g/km* whereas the GT is 113g/km* for the same engine, in dsg and same size wheels? Strange.
After a lot of consideration and checking out tax payable the Rline inc fuel was around £244, the GTD around £340 and GTI was £440. I couldn't justify the extra amounts over the Rline working out at an extra £1200 - £2400 per year!
Overall found the car much pokier (obviously) than my last 1.6 diesel golf, however as some comments on here, with ACC running can be a little slow on the pick up and finding myself using the paddles in order to keep the gear reasonable so its not slugging away accelerating (probably programmed in the car to keep emissions down).
I know it is early days but I have averaged 35mpg (UK) since getting it (250 miles), having said that I have been fairly foot heavy, understandably to see the performance of the car. However on a couple of shorter runs to and from work yesterday and today I have been being as economical as I can be by basically letting ACC work most of the way and have hit around 46-51 mpg which I thought wasn't too bad. No motorway driving yet as I live out on a limb (East Anglia).
I will say compared to the old golf SE it is a remarkable upgrade apart from the lack of mute function on the steering wheel and the services that the head unit is capable of that aren't activated! Needing to pay a further £100 to get these unlocked is not something I am looking at doing!
Also don't know if anyone else has noticed the CO2 from the Rline is 110g/km* whereas the GT is 113g/km* for the same engine, in dsg and same size wheels? Strange.
Edited by benbird7 on Tuesday 3rd November 10:13
I too had a 1.6 diesel before (A3) and the difference is night & day! As you've already picked up the hesitation at low speeds, say pulling onto a roundabout is appalling!
Based on my figures it should get considerably better, I'm now averaging 47, but I do a lot of motorway driving and the commute is good for my economy too.
Re the mute button, on the right hand side there's a voice activation button which always comes up I don't have voice activation (!), but it does mute the radio.
It does seem there's some differing figures out there, but my GT is showing as 110g/km on the DVLA, so that's the one I use for BiK etc. One of the reasons for choosing this was that unlike the diesels DSG reduces emissions, not increases it.
Based on my figures it should get considerably better, I'm now averaging 47, but I do a lot of motorway driving and the commute is good for my economy too.
Re the mute button, on the right hand side there's a voice activation button which always comes up I don't have voice activation (!), but it does mute the radio.
It does seem there's some differing figures out there, but my GT is showing as 110g/km on the DVLA, so that's the one I use for BiK etc. One of the reasons for choosing this was that unlike the diesels DSG reduces emissions, not increases it.
Hi acme,
Good to hear from you, it was when I had a look on the VW site with the co2 I saw the difference, both based on 5 door models no changes to wheels or anything. Good to hear that economy should get a bit better. I don't know why I worry about the mpg, I have a fuel card anyway!
I'll try the voice activation on the radio, I think I have only tested when playing music through the SD card. Overall very impressed though I had 9 years of 3 new Astras (3year cycle), got my first golf in 2013 and loved it, now with the ACC coupled with the DSG (and fuel saving with ACT) you only have to steer it! The two in combination work very well, I'll probably get more motorway driving in over the coming months to see how it pans out on an average.
Is it worth getting the activation code for the app connect?
Good to hear from you, it was when I had a look on the VW site with the co2 I saw the difference, both based on 5 door models no changes to wheels or anything. Good to hear that economy should get a bit better. I don't know why I worry about the mpg, I have a fuel card anyway!
I'll try the voice activation on the radio, I think I have only tested when playing music through the SD card. Overall very impressed though I had 9 years of 3 new Astras (3year cycle), got my first golf in 2013 and loved it, now with the ACC coupled with the DSG (and fuel saving with ACT) you only have to steer it! The two in combination work very well, I'll probably get more motorway driving in over the coming months to see how it pans out on an average.
Is it worth getting the activation code for the app connect?
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