Golf 1.4 TSI 150 GT DSG

[the-photographer]

Another suggestion, get your hands on ANY petrol. Fill it up, drive it normally for a week (or more) then measure the actual consumption.

How close are you to the combined MPG in percentage terms, under over?

Apply this figure to the ACT engine.

Make decision!

[acme]

the-photographer said:

Another suggestion, get your hands on ANY petrol. Fill it up, drive it normally for a week (or more) then measure the actual consumption.

How close are you to the combined MPG in percentage terms, under over?

Apply this figure to the ACT engine.

Make decision!

On the basis of yesterday I wish it was that efficient!

Test drove another yesterday, a second hand one with approx 1100 miles on it. Over 21 miles, 14 of which were on a dual carriageway a third of which is speed restricted to 50mph with cameras I got 40MPG, I was driving like a granny frankly. The MK7's have three trips; overall combined/since refuel/since last start up - the first was 37approx & the PO was a guy in his 60's, so I can but conclude you couldn't get anywhere near the 60 combined! Bo**ox........

[acme]

Appreciate that it's somewhat annoying when someone asks for advice especially around a 'what car' or similar post and doesn't give feedback. Well in case anyone's interested I ordered a midnight blue 1.4 TSI ACT DSG - that's a mouthful!

Having driven back to back with the 2.0 TDI GT I just couldn't ignore the far smoother powertrain, the near silent engine except when redlined, the smoothness of the stop/start or the general feeling of being back in a petrol!

Cheers for the input.

[the-photographer]

Full report when it arrives please

[acme]

the-photographer said:

Full report when it arrives please

Will do - if anyone is interested I'll report back from time to time in particular on MPG, I suspect I'm one of a handful of company drivers doing reasonable mileage (not massive I'll admit) who's gone down the petrol route.

[74merc]

My wife has a 2.0 TDi GT. She does about 16K miles per year and currently averages about 50 MPG. There would be quite a few long journeys in that though. It's a nice car, sounds like a tractor from the outside, sounds quiet and smooth inside but utterly devoid of any character. The 'Playstation' steering feel has to be its worst feature.

[acme]

Not expecting a great deal feel wise, though I think that's true of most modern cars. Did a fair few miles in a current gen 1 series, got back in my then MK5 Golf and I was overwhelmed by the amount of info being thrown at me, and I bet a MK5 is hardly the last word in steering feel!

[gizlaroc]

I was lent a 2.0tdi A3 and then the 1.4tfsi A3, on the same 90 miles course they both returned 48mpg.

[acme]

gizlaroc said:

I was lent a 2.0tdi A3 and then the 1.4tfsi A3, on the same 90 miles course they both returned 48mpg.

Thanks for that, I'm hoping along with my recent experience of 40 albeit gentle motorway miles at 47.5mpg I've made the right choice. TBH once I'd tested it back to back with the diesel there really wasn't any choice to be made.

[gizlaroc]

acme said:

Thanks for that, I'm hoping along with my recent experience of 40 albeit gentle motorway miles at 47.5mpg I've made the right choice. TBH once I'd tested it back to back with the diesel there really wasn't any choice to be made.

I thought the same, the petrol was so much more refined, the clutch was nicer, the gear change slicker, the thing handled better and didn't crash about as much over poor surfaces, and the fact it was fun to drive where as the diesel was a bit of a chore make it a no brainer.

Even though I was not considering one, I have been thinking maybe an A3 sportback or Q3 as an everyday car for nipping around might be a good option.
There were some silly cheap contract hire deals on the A3 or Q3 1.4tfsi last quarter but now they all seem to be 2.0tdis again, but I will keep an eye out.

[acme]

gizlaroc said:

I thought the same, the petrol was so much more refined, the clutch was nicer, the gear change slicker, the thing handled better and didn't crash about as much over poor surfaces, and the fact it was fun to drive where as the diesel was a bit of a chore make it a no brainer.

Even though I was not considering one, I have been thinking maybe an A3 sportback or Q3 as an everyday car for nipping around might be a good option.
There were some silly cheap contract hire deals on the A3 or Q3 1.4tfsi last quarter but now they all seem to be 2.0tdis again, but I will keep an eye out.

I wouldn't want this to turn into a 'I hate diesels', because I don't, I very happily owned a MK5 Golf 2.0TDI (PD)for five years but the latest company diesels I've owned have got less MPG than the MK5 despite being common rail and only 1.6's, doing the same commute of 27 miles each way. Apart from personally preferring petrol I also wanted something different if I got another Golf, I think the petrol & DSG just about does that. Got to say when I test drove the manual the difference between the two was even more pronounced, the lightness at the front was astounding, the fact it seems to be a very good engine and not only has comparable BHP but decent torque of 185lb/ft (same as my current A3 1.6TDI, 50 less than the 2.0TDI granted) too made the decision for me.

[JackReacher]

Any updates on mpg people are getting with this engine?

Trying to decide whether to get an A3 1.4 COD S-tronic or Leon 184 Tdi DSG. Both would cost the same, and on paper have similar mpg but I suspect in the real world the diesel might be better. The Leon will have more grunt and more toys, the A3 a nice petrol engine and better interior.

Honest John suggest a real world average of 47.8 mpg on the A3 which would be great, but not sure how achievable that is when the figure for an A1 with same engine is 37.2mpg and the Golf 42.8mpg!

[LeoSayer]

Our A3 SB 1.4 COD S-tronic 140bhp has a long term average since new (now 4,000 miles) of 38 mpg according to the DIS.

The worst we've got from a tank is 32mpg (calculated myself, not from DIS) from crawling around NE London on the school run and commute.

The best is 43mpg from a tank mainly from driving on motorways and A roads.

It's not hard to get more than 50mpg showing on the trip computer on free flowing roads if your speed stays below 70mph.

[JackReacher]

Thanks for the response. The car will be used for 30 mile commute each way, across country on mostly A and B roads in rush hour, based on comments I've found on forums I think I would struggle to get more than 40mpg on that sort of journey but it's impossible to know for sure, need a demo that I can take for an extended test drive in similiar circumstances

[the-photographer]

JackReacher said:

Thanks for the response. The car will be used for 30 mile commute each way, across country on mostly A and B roads in rush hour, based on comments I've found on forums I think I would struggle to get more than 40mpg on that sort of journey but it's impossible to know for sure, need a demo that I can take for an extended test drive in similiar circumstances

Will post a proper report soon, but just had a Polo GT loan car. This still had the plastic price sign thrown in the back, the long term trip computer said 44Mpg over 1000 miles.

I would say very good for a loan/demonstrator!

On my 30 mile mixed trip, the average was 45Mpg. The engine is amazing, but not too sure about the rest (compared to my old MK5), I think I would have to get it in Golf/A3 form.

[va1o]

the-photographer said:

On my 30 mile mixed trip, the average was 45Mpg. The engine is amazing, but not too sure about the rest (compared to my old MK5), I think I would have to get it in Golf/A3 form.

I know what you mean, it is indeed an excellent engine but the Polo/ A1 etc still feel a little limited. The PQ35 chassis from the Golf Mk5 is still more advanced and sophisticated compared to the current Polo setup, even though its now over 10 years old.

[JackReacher]

the-photographer said:

Will post a proper report soon, but just had a Polo GT loan car. This still had the plastic price sign thrown in the back, the long term trip computer said 44Mpg over 1000 miles.

I would say very good for a loan/demonstrator!

On my 30 mile mixed trip, the average was 45Mpg. The engine is amazing, but not too sure about the rest (compared to my old MK5), I think I would have to get it in Golf/A3 form.

Thanks, out of interest was the Polo a manual or DSG?

[acme]

I test drove four;

10 miles; 37.5mpg (manual) (same route manual 2.0TDI got 49mpg)
21 miles; 42.5mpg DSG
10 miles; 39mpg DSG
40 miles; 47.7mpg DSG

The 40 mile one had 3k+ miles, the rest circa 1k.

Think it's fair to say you can get reasonable MPG but you need to be driving sedately.

The thing is I test drove the manual petrol and 2.0TDI back to back, if you REALLY want the diesel don't do this, as once you have there is no decision to be made, not only is the petrol MUCH better than the diesel for the obvious reasons, it's clearly a good engine in it's own right, and with 80kg less over the nose it's a revelation in comparison.

Mines due late September and I'll be reporting back frequently on MPG, I'm hoping this engine could give hope for those desperate to get out of derv yet still retain some decent MPG, we shall see.

[the-photographer]

JackReacher said:

the-photographer said:

Will post a proper report soon, but just had a Polo GT loan car. This still had the plastic price sign thrown in the back, the long term trip computer said 44Mpg over 1000 miles.

I would say very good for a loan/demonstrator!

On my 30 mile mixed trip, the average was 45Mpg. The engine is amazing, but not too sure about the rest (compared to my old MK5), I think I would have to get it in Golf/A3 form.

Thanks, out of interest was the Polo a manual or DSG?

Manual

[HXP]

Just placed on order a 1.4 TSI SE 6 spd Manual Estate Vienna Leather Park Assist Mirror Pack Rear camera Carpets ( carpets a ridiculous ' extra ' on a 20k car)

Coming from a 2.0 Focus TDCI Titanium and agonised over if I should go diesel again after looking at the potential comsumption from the 1.4 petrol and having driven 3 on test drives it seemed like a very willing engine. I also drive a 1981 MX5 1.6 petrol and every time I drive it I love the way petrol drives.

The Focus has torque on tap and great fuel economy so hoping I have made the right choice.

Will post on the forum my consumption and compare it to the Focus as I logged how many miles on every tank over 5 years on the Ford ( it was more fun than it sounds ) will be doing the same with the Golf from day one so hopefully get some real world figures.

Will update when it turns up end October.