Golf R - to dsg or not?

[acme]

RS Grant said:

...because I find them far more enjoyable and involving in a car which isn't my daily driver.

Sure, the DSG/DCT gearboxes are tenths of a second quicker 0-60 and every gear change is fractions of a second quicker than a good manual shift.. but I'd trade ultimate pace for the enjoyment and involvement that comes with having a third pedal/manual stick. I'll happily live with being a few seconds later to the end of the road and have a much bigger smile on my face than I would have had in a DSG equipped car.


Cheers,
Grant

Further to my post above I have to second this......using manual mode on mine is a good compromise, but it just isn't the same as banging home those cogs yourself.......it's a fairly soulless process.

[Little Lofty]

My mrs should be getting her Golf R DSG next Monday, it's her first auto car of any type. She drove both and thought the DSG suited the car best. The active cruise works far better with DSG as does the auto handbrake (as you don't really need it as much) I think most of the extra cost for the DSG will be clawed back at resale, as the DSG seems to me quite a bit more popular than the manual. I noticed the other day that a Porsche Cayman PDK is now cheaper to own than a manual, the extra £2k upfront is offset by a 3 year residual that is £2.5k higher than the manual. It seems the market is definitely starting to favour auto.

[SuperchargedVR6]

RS Grant said:

SuperchargedVR6 said:

I don't know why some people are so keen on manuals still. They are completely dated and outmoded and need to die, quite frankly.

...because I find them far more enjoyable and involving in a car which isn't my daily driver.

Sure, the DSG/DCT gearboxes are tenths of a second quicker 0-60 and every gear change is fractions of a second quicker than a good manual shift.. but I'd trade ultimate pace for the enjoyment and involvement that comes with having a third pedal/manual stick. I'll happily live with being a few seconds later to the end of the road and have a much bigger smile on my face than I would have had in a DSG equipped car.


Cheers,
Grant

"Enjoyment" and "involvement" when it comes to driving is almost a Utopia these days. DSG really did come along at exactly the right time. It eases the pain of gridlocked Britain whilst still being fun if you choose to go out for a joy ride at 4am.

To be honest, I don't find the DSG boxes to be completely satisfactory either (I'm way too picky) but my days of rowing a gearstick are definitely drawing to a close. If VAG's gearshift was anything like as good as Civic Type R's, then I can see where you're coming from, but VAGs have always had dreadful manuals.

[AJB88]

I've got a Stage1 MK3 Cupra 280 with DSG and absolutely love it!

My previous cars were a Stage2 MK2 Leon FR TDI and Stage2+ MK2 Leon Cupra R, both were manual.

Initially I was a little bit worried about how I would get on with DSG but loving it now. For me the two things I would change however (I will be changing these via DSG mapping) are auto change up in paddle mode disabled and a hard cut limiter.

[MattS3]

I've just remembered something I don't like about DSG

Dipping the headlights and accidentally pulling the left paddle instead of the stalk.

[DUMBO100]

I'm going from a Civic Type R to a Golf R DSG. I've never driven the Golf but do a lot of City Centre driving and as much as I love the Type R's gearbox I think that the DSG will suit this car better