Golf GTI Mk 5 PCV Valve

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Dogbash

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477 posts

179 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Just had the car bluefinned and read about these PCV valve issues. Is it something I should replace now before it goes wrong? What does it control anyway? Is the new version stronger than original fit?

Cheers,
Andrew

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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http://www.psituning.com/product.php?xProd=21395

Front one is 10 mins work. The rear corrugated pipe is fiddly, but doable DIY. You must fit both together.

It's job is to prevent the valve cover from being pressurised by boost, but still draw crankcase fumes in on part throttle.

Tell tale signs of front PCV failure include:-

Hunting idle (revs up and down of it's own accord).
Oil blowing out of the oil filler cap and / or valve cover seal.
Reduced performance.
Increased oil consumption.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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Plus, in my experience, about a 5mpg drop in economy.

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Wednesday 26th November 2014
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FWIW I wouldn't bother replacing it until it goes - it might not. It's very obvious when it does anyway, you'll notice rising and falling revs when the car is idle.

AJB88

12,400 posts

171 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Get the parts from a dealer and it will be cheaper, ECS just sell OEM parts with their markup on them.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Prevention is better than the cure. Especially if the car is mapped. Replacing the rocker cover seal and getting oil out of the spark plug recesses and possibly replacing a coil or 2, costs a damn site more than replacing the PCV.

Yep, PSI do add a bit of commission but for people who don't want to, or can't, go to the dealer, it's an easy solution.

To the OP, if you're a "in for a penny, in for a pound" maintenance kind of guy, you might want to check / replace the mechanical fuel pump's cam follower. The consequences of not doing that could cost you a pump, cam shaft and a lot of labour.

http://www.psituning.com/product.php?xProd=23731

va1o

16,032 posts

207 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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Yep if you're keeping the car long term the PCV is worth doing, and probably the DV/ cam-follower at the same time. All 3 prone to failure and cheap DIY-able replacements.

AJB88

12,400 posts

171 months

Thursday 27th November 2014
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va1o said:
Yep if you're keeping the car long term the PCV is worth doing, and probably the DV/ cam-follower at the same time. All 3 prone to failure and cheap DIY-able replacements.
Cam follower I would say is the most important of the 3.. a leakly DV or PCV can be replaced... a cam-follower that breaks up can cause major damage.

ManOpener

12,467 posts

169 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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Isn't the cam follower a quality control issue issue? As in, some of the non-revised followers are fine, some of them are prone to excess wear.

AJB88

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171 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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SuperchargedVR6

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220 months

Friday 28th November 2014
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ManOpener said:
Isn't the cam follower a quality control issue issue? As in, some of the non-revised followers are fine, some of them are prone to excess wear.
It's the early GTIs with the soft cam that suffer the most. The intake cam was hardened from 2007 on iirc.

TFSI engines really clobber the engine oil, and I suspect the worst cases of follower wear are caused by neglect and / or VAG's stupid longlife servicing.

The pics of destroyed followers circulating the net are from American cars, where they really do get cheap on their cars, and do huge mileages.