2015 Touareg 262 R line
Discussion
Brave Fart said:
In addition, I thought the gearbox was rather slow to respond, a bit "dim witted" if you will.
Wondering if you experienced the same problems as i'm having. Perfect in full auto, but try and change down in manual mode and i find myself coasting for a few seconds with no power. Happens 50% of the time.It's like the CPU is trying to work out what gear it should be in, even though i've selected it!
Would love to know if anyone else is experiencing it.
If anyone remembers, PLEASE someone try the following
Enter into a corner - (40mph or thereabouts will do it. Use the paddles to knock it down a gear or two.
See if you lose power for a few seconds when you accelerate out.
Need to know if it's a fault or "characteristic"
muchos gracias
I experienced exactly the same thing on Saturday (My car was registered Dec 2015). I was enjoying the country roads in rural Northumberland in sport mode and thought I would try the paddles, I approached the corner at about 40+ in 4th gear, changed down to 3rd to power out and nothing for at least a couple of seconds. I actually thought the car had cut out. I tried exactly the same thing later with the same result. I have not however tried any of the higher gears i.e 5th to 4th to see if its still prevalent.
There is not a hint of hesitation in full auto mode, be that normal or sport.
I was very impressed with the way the car performed on these country roads, which are very rutted and very bumpy, you can really hustle the car along and it was actually great fun. There is no disguising the weight when slowing down for a corner, but if the adopt the slow in fast out approach you can make very good progress.
The more I drive the car the more I like it.
The previous week I ventured out onto the North Yorkshire moors where the minor roads were still covered with snow and the car performed very well. There were some very steep inclines and descents I put the car into off road mode and for the downhill sections just let the car do its thing without touching the brake pedal, the hill descent light was flashing continuously and you could feel the individual wheels braking, but you felt perfectly in control with a speed of around 10-15 mph.
A great day out and one that would not have been possible in a two wheel drive car.
There is not a hint of hesitation in full auto mode, be that normal or sport.
I was very impressed with the way the car performed on these country roads, which are very rutted and very bumpy, you can really hustle the car along and it was actually great fun. There is no disguising the weight when slowing down for a corner, but if the adopt the slow in fast out approach you can make very good progress.
The more I drive the car the more I like it.
The previous week I ventured out onto the North Yorkshire moors where the minor roads were still covered with snow and the car performed very well. There were some very steep inclines and descents I put the car into off road mode and for the downhill sections just let the car do its thing without touching the brake pedal, the hill descent light was flashing continuously and you could feel the individual wheels braking, but you felt perfectly in control with a speed of around 10-15 mph.
A great day out and one that would not have been possible in a two wheel drive car.
akeithj said:
I experienced exactly the same thing on Saturday (My car was registered Dec 2015). I was enjoying the country roads in rural Northumberland in sport mode and thought I would try the paddles, I approached the corner at about 40+ in 4th gear, changed down to 3rd to power out and nothing for at least a couple of seconds. I actually thought the car had cut out. I tried exactly the same thing later with the same result. I have not however tried any of the higher gears i.e 5th to 4th to see if its still prevalent.
There is not a hint of hesitation in full auto mode, be that normal or sport.
I spoke to a senior technician at my local dealer the other day, he explained what he thought was happening. He said when you select a gear, it's more of a command to the car than a manual change per se (we know this). If you're turning the wheel and the revs are high, then the car's safety mechanisms kick in, blocking the power until it works out whether it's safe to change down (to avoid wheelspin etc)There is not a hint of hesitation in full auto mode, be that normal or sport.
Perosnally, I'd rather be the one making the judgement, not least because cutting power midway through a bend is probably worse than powering out. It's not a characteristic i've exerienced on any other car, be that 4x4 or saloon, and i've never had a problem - be that oversteer or otherwise.
Over zealous safety nonsense, which ironcally makes things more dangerous IMO.
Does it still happen on the straight when steering is straight ahead then? I tried it briefly last night on the way home on the straight ahead and it changed down and I had full power pretty instantly. Perhaps its looking at steering angle too as steering is electric?
TBH and on reflection I'm not sure I fully understand the exact circumstances being described?
I personally would never change down mid corner and floor it in any car, let alone a 3t, high CoG 4x4 with a slush box?
I'm old school and drive a Cerbera too, its always be in the right gear and revs approaching a bend before you steer then blending the throttle and opening it up gradually on the exit. Anything like changing down mid corner, applying too much throttle too early would see you facing backwards in the hedge before you blinked!
TBH and on reflection I'm not sure I fully understand the exact circumstances being described?
I personally would never change down mid corner and floor it in any car, let alone a 3t, high CoG 4x4 with a slush box?
I'm old school and drive a Cerbera too, its always be in the right gear and revs approaching a bend before you steer then blending the throttle and opening it up gradually on the exit. Anything like changing down mid corner, applying too much throttle too early would see you facing backwards in the hedge before you blinked!
Harry - In my particular case I always ensure I am in the desired gear prior to turn in, so in my particular case I had engaged 3rd gear whilst in a straight line prior to corner entry. It was on corner exit that there was a complete loss of power whilst trying to power out of the corner in third gear.
akeithj said:
Harry - In my particular case I always ensure I am in the desired gear prior to turn in, so in my particular case I had engaged 3rd gear whilst in a straight line prior to corner entry. It was on corner exit that there was a complete loss of power whilst trying to power out of the corner in third gear.
OK that's good to here 
.I didn't try to power around a corner last night, just dropped it down and squeezed the throttle with no delay whilst cruising along the straight. I'll try it tonight if I get the opportunity on the way home to see if steering input has an affect on it. Daft question what sort of speeds and revs are we talking about?
Ok tried it a couple of times last night and coming home this afternoon. Can't recreate it, probably more to do with specific scenario of speed/revs steering angle.
The only time it is dumb witted is when coasting it sometimes has to think hard and hesitates on picking up the drive again. Also when in coasting mode I sometimes, about one every week or so, get a bum downshift, when it's pre selecting gears in neutral I think it's around 4th down to 3rd. Other than that no complaints.
The only time it is dumb witted is when coasting it sometimes has to think hard and hesitates on picking up the drive again. Also when in coasting mode I sometimes, about one every week or so, get a bum downshift, when it's pre selecting gears in neutral I think it's around 4th down to 3rd. Other than that no complaints.
HarryW said:
Does it still happen on the straight when steering is straight ahead then? I tried it briefly last night on the way home on the straight ahead and it changed down and I had full power pretty instantly. Perhaps its looking at steering angle too as steering is electric?
TBH and on reflection I'm not sure I fully understand the exact circumstances being described?
I personally would never change down mid corner and floor it in any car, let alone a 3t, high CoG 4x4 with a slush box?
I'm old school and drive a Cerbera too, its always be in the right gear and revs approaching a bend before you steer then blending the throttle and opening it up gradually on the exit. Anything like changing down mid corner, applying too much throttle too early would see you facing backwards in the hedge before you blinked!
tighter corners, higher revs, lower gears... that's when i find it happens 90% of the time. Speeds don't have to be particularly high, and it certainly doesn't feel like the car is on the limit that's for sure - in fact i'd say it was nowhere near the limit to be honest. Rain or shine, makes no difference.TBH and on reflection I'm not sure I fully understand the exact circumstances being described?
I personally would never change down mid corner and floor it in any car, let alone a 3t, high CoG 4x4 with a slush box?
I'm old school and drive a Cerbera too, its always be in the right gear and revs approaching a bend before you steer then blending the throttle and opening it up gradually on the exit. Anything like changing down mid corner, applying too much throttle too early would see you facing backwards in the hedge before you blinked!
If i'm on a straight with lower revs then downshifts will be pretty muuch instantanious, so I'd say steering is definitely factored in by the car.
FYI: I tend to downshift as i brake and then power out - but I'm never one for planting the throttle.
I've just had my 2016 r-line delivered this week, all in all VERY happy with it. Yes I know its a far bigger/heavier car than the 535d it replaced but definitely feels remarkably slower, more so than expected.
........has anyone had a re-map done on their t'rag and can share experiences? I'm seeing some pretty impressive gains being quoted in outright power and torque, but would be interested if anyone has taken the plunge?
........has anyone had a re-map done on their t'rag and can share experiences? I'm seeing some pretty impressive gains being quoted in outright power and torque, but would be interested if anyone has taken the plunge?
Got mine last Wednesday. 4 months old demonstrator with a number of toys. Averaging around 30 mpg around town which is great and did 38 mpg on a run to north wales. Amazingly smooth engine / box, so comfortable even on 21's. Actually prefer it to a cayenne I test drove.
Definately one of the best value cars on sale at present.
Definately one of the best value cars on sale at present.
Just sitting at over 10k miles and the adblue reminder has popped up giving a 1500 mile range. I don't have a service plan and can't recall if it is something that included during the first three years regardless, or do I have to pay, in which case I'll buy and top it up myself... Noted that the Touareg has a near 20ltr adblue tank!
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