2015 Touareg 262 R line

[HarryW]

akeithj said:

Harry - have you had a play with the RNS 850 connected touch screen nav yet?. I am just wondering if it's possible to copy CD's and MP3's etc to the hard drive. On my BMW system you can tick an option when playing a CD to copy that CD directly onto the hard drive. I also downloaded a large number of songs to my USB stick and uploaded them directly to the hard drive from the USB port in the glove box. I don't know if the SD card readers are supposed to work in a similar way to the USB port on a BMW to enable you to upload music to the cars hard drive.

Ok had a look and read, yes you can copy(import) from most things but not iPod/ iPad, which is all I have! Seems the HDD will take 3000 tracks. Couple of pictures to make it clearer.

[akeithj]

Thank you Harry, that's good to know. The space saver spare looks the same as the one we had in the Mercedes in the sense that you have to inflate it in order to use it. I do like the additional security of a space saver, especially when in rural locations. In Northern Spain last year we had to try five seperate petrol stations for premium unleaded, I hate to think how difficult it would be getting a 20 inch replacement tyre.
I have seen in the brochure that it's possible to get access to Google Maps and Traffic updates, but only if you have an Internet connection via your phone, not a problem in this country but I wonder what the roaming charges would be if you forgot to deactivate it and were travelling abroad.

[russy01]

SIlly question here, but Ill fire away anyway.

Looking at picking up a 4x4, have been pretty sold on an SQ5 up until now. However having seen some stonking deals on these about I am intrigued. I popped into my local dealer at the weekend to take a look but they didnt have a car I could drive.

Whilst I understand the Touareg wont have anywhere near the straight line punch of the SQ5, nor will it be as stiff. But how well does it pull for such a big car? Is it quick off the line initially? How stiff? (I live in the middle of nowhere with a lot of tight twisties and springy soft cars are a no go due to the roll.)

Will have to see if I can find a dealer with an R Line available over the weekend.

Thanks

[andrewparker]

I'll let the guys who have received theirs provide a more qualified answer, but I was impressed on my test drive. It feels quick for a vehicle so large, with a lot of mid range grunt (plenty of overtaking ability). I'm coming from a GTD and the sheer size of the Touareg makes it feel faster.

[robsdesk]

I've (literally) done 5 miles in mine (in fairness it's been here about 4 hours) so not that much to go on, but initially it's surprisingly well planted, we've got the Dynamic CDC air option which helps settle it down. It doesn't wallow around the road etc... (so far).

Official 0-60 is 7.3 which isn't to be sniffed at, it certainly moved when I took it for a spin earlier - easy to drive it sedately but give it some stick it & does get down the road.

Edited by robsdesk on Wednesday 1st April 15:10

Edited by robsdesk on Wednesday 1st April 15:15

[mondie]

anybody spotted any competitive deals on the V8 diesel, if going one of these I think I would want the extra grunt

[akeithj]

Looking good Robsdesk.Looking forward to your impressions once you have done a few miles. I was also quite surprised how responsive it was off the line, a lot of automatic American cars have a similar "step off" characteristic.

Car magazine ran the previous version as a long term test car and recorded a 0-60 time of 6.9, which is excellent for such a large car. The current model does have slightly more power and torque, but does have SCR, which some people think may blunt performance a little.

[robsdesk]

mondie said:

anybody spotted any competitive deals on the V8 diesel, if going one of these I think I would want the extra grunt

Doesn't exist any more I'm afraid (not new at least), only engine option is the 3l TDI in either 262 or 204 ps variants. Unless you're a company car driver you take the 262 as the economy is the same & the discounts are higher which make them the same price, you're unlikely to take this as a company car regardless of the lower power option (lower emissions etc..) as it's still not the sort of company car the government wants to encourage.

Try one - the 3l 262 is plenty good enough.

[robsdesk]

akeithj said:

Looking good Robsdesk.Looking forward to your impressions once you have done a few miles. I was also quite surprised how responsive it was off the line, a lot of automatic American cars have a similar "step off" characteristic.

Car magazine ran the previous version as a long term test car and recorded a 0-60 time of 6.9, which is excellent for such a large car. The current model does have slightly more power and torque, but does have SCR, which some people think may blunt performance a little.

Yep, I've got some taxi'ing of grandparents etc.. to do over the Easter break so will stretch its legs a bit on a reasonable variety of roads. Discovered one nice touch earlier with the Air suspension option, you can configure it to automatically drop right down when you open the boot to make loading easier, might also be useful for elderly relatives...

[Gazzab]

Harry - talk to me, what deal did you get? My wifes D3 has been with us for 7 years and so a new car is needed for her. How does your deal compare to the freedom deal? Am tempted to get one if the wait isnt too long (having waited 6 months for the Golf R to arrive).

[Lost soul]

That is quite some deal

[Labbetts]

russy01 said:

SIlly question here, but Ill fire away anyway.

Looking at picking up a 4x4, have been pretty sold on an SQ5 up until now. However having seen some stonking deals on these about I am intrigued. I popped into my local dealer at the weekend to take a look but they didnt have a car I could drive.

Whilst I understand the Touareg wont have anywhere near the straight line punch of the SQ5, nor will it be as stiff. But how well does it pull for such a big car? Is it quick off the line initially? How stiff? (I live in the middle of nowhere with a lot of tight twisties and springy soft cars are a no go due to the roll.)

Will have to see if I can find a dealer with an R Line available over the weekend.

Thanks

Not a silly question at all mate, i've been through a similar dilemma myself.

I'm in a newish X3 30d at present, so decent performance for a car of it's type (6.4 seconds). I looked at an X3 35d (minimal difference in performance) and a Q5 3.0d. They've all got decent performance, but none ever feel comfortable being driven in such a manner, hence the constant dilemna.

I also looked at Range Rover Evoques, but apart from the theft issues and tarty image, I couldn't bring myself to spending £45k on a 4 pot diesel. I needed the silkiness of a 6pot.

Problem is, I always seem to get distracted by the numbers, thinking that a 35d X3 must feel SO much faster than a 30d, it doesn't in reality. Sure if you drive them back to back you'd feel the extra punch, but you jump back in a 30d and you soon forget. All are fast enough for the type of vehicle.

To answer your questions directly, the Touareg I tested (pre facelift) didn't spring off the line like my BMW, but it could hardly be called a slouch. The ZF gearbox in the BMW is marginally quicker than the unit in the VW, but not by much. Probably unoticeable to most. I found the DSG in the Q5 quick, but a little erratic. The VW is a good compromise. Handling wise it felt good. Smooth over the bumps but firm enough around the twisties. Easily as good as both my X3 and previous X5 (2010)

Admittedly i haven't driven an SQ5, but have tested a Q5 3.0d. I've heard the SQ5 sounds ace. I was tempted, but got concerned by the all new model due next year. Put simply, I wouldn't want to sink £50k into a top of the range car in it's 6th year, regardless of how good it was. It feels (and looks) it's age now. Better of waiting and ordering a Macan.

Then i came across these Touareg deals. Always 'quite' liked the car, but never loved it. This R Line version is by far the most attractive model yet, and to me the first time it's been a headturner. I took one out expecting to like it, and came away loving it. Engine is super smooth, gearbox quick enough, steering sharp(ish), and for a dad with a young family, more than enough grunt (I had an M135i last year so used to having nippy cars). Between 6 and 7 Seconds (to 60) is a good time for straight line pace in an SUV of that size. Any faster feels unnecessary, any slower than 8 seconds feels sluggish.

Ive put down £2900 and will be paying £344 for 2 years. That's with Met paint and Servicing. That's probably on par with a golf GTI, and it's a car nudging £50k!! The fact it comes fully loaded is a massive bonus. The roof alone is sensational.

Edited by Labbetts on Wednesday 1st April 18:19

[HarryW]

Gazzab said:

Harry - talk to me, what deal did you get? My wifes D3 has been with us for 7 years and so a new car is needed for her. How does your deal compare to the freedom deal? Am tempted to get one if the wait isnt too long (having waited 6 months for the Golf R to arrive).

HarryW said:

Did the man maths last night, freedom come in at £10,380 over two years when you add their fees, VW main dealer direct (Crew) via the what car lease link came in at £10,440.

The above is the amortised figures for two years and 8k mile pa, excess is 10.8 per mile.
I got mine from a different dealer at £10220, not a massive saving on the one advertising through what car but almost a service cost amount. I had the option to add servicing to the deal and it was less than £10pm, but didn't as he said it may not need servicing before return.
Build times are 12 weeks if you have anything but standard then that will be the wait. The dealer I used pre orders a car a month in standard spec and either sells it or leases it. I'll drop you his details via pm. All assuming the good deals are still running as it's now April and I thought it ended in March....

[Labbetts]

HarryW said:

Gazzab said:

Harry - talk to me, what deal did you get? My wifes D3 has been with us for 7 years and so a new car is needed for her. How does your deal compare to the freedom deal? Am tempted to get one if the wait isnt too long (having waited 6 months for the Golf R to arrive).

HarryW said:

Did the man maths last night, freedom come in at £10,380 over two years when you add their fees, VW main dealer direct (Crew) via the what car lease link came in at £10,440.

The above is the amortised figures for two years and 8k mile pa, excess is 10.8 per mile.
I got mine from a different dealer at £10220, not a massive saving on the one advertising through what car but almost a service cost amount. I had the option to add servicing to the deal and it was less than £10pm, but didn't as he said it may not need servicing before return.
Build times are 12 weeks if you have anything but standard then that will be the wait. The dealer I used pre orders a car a month in standard spec and either sells it or leases it. I'll drop you his details via pm. All assuming the good deals are still running as it's now April and I thought it ended in March....

get in quick.

I've been quoted June 5 - ordered last week with Met Black as the only option

[mondie]

robsdesk said:

Doesn't exist any more I'm afraid (not new at least), only engine option is the 3l TDI in either 262 or 204 ps variants. Unless you're a company car driver you take the 262 as the economy is the same & the discounts are higher which make them the same price, you're unlikely to take this as a company car regardless of the lower power option (lower emissions etc..) as it's still not the sort of company car the government wants to encourage.

Try one - the 3l 262 is plenty good enough.

Thanks Rob, I did not realise that was the case. Cannot imagine it was a big seller but it appealed to me.

[russy01]

Labbetts said:

russy01 said:

SIlly question here, but Ill fire away anyway.

Looking at picking up a 4x4, have been pretty sold on an SQ5 up until now. However having seen some stonking deals on these about I am intrigued. I popped into my local dealer at the weekend to take a look but they didnt have a car I could drive.

Whilst I understand the Touareg wont have anywhere near the straight line punch of the SQ5, nor will it be as stiff. But how well does it pull for such a big car? Is it quick off the line initially? How stiff? (I live in the middle of nowhere with a lot of tight twisties and springy soft cars are a no go due to the roll.)

Will have to see if I can find a dealer with an R Line available over the weekend.

Thanks

Not a silly question at all mate, i've been through a similar dilemma myself.

I'm in a newish X3 30d at present, so decent performance for a car of it's type (6.4 seconds). I looked at an X3 35d (minimal difference in performance) and a Q5 3.0d. They've all got decent performance, but none ever feel comfortable being driven in such a manner, hence the constant dilemna.

I also looked at Range Rover Evoques, but apart from the theft issues and tarty image, I couldn't bring myself to spending £45k on a 4 pot diesel. I needed the silkiness of a 6pot.

Problem is, I always seem to get distracted by the numbers, thinking that a 35d X3 must feel SO much faster than a 30d, it doesn't in reality. Sure if you drive them back to back you'd feel the extra punch, but you jump back in a 30d and you soon forget. All are fast enough for the type of vehicle.

To answer your questions directly, the Touareg I tested (pre facelift) didn't spring off the line like my BMW, but it could hardly be called a slouch. The ZF gearbox in the BMW is marginally quicker than the unit in the VW, but not by much. Probably unoticeable to most. I found the DSG in the Q5 quick, but a little erratic. The VW is a good compromise. Handling wise it felt good. Smooth over the bumps but firm enough around the twisties. Easily as good as both my X3 and previous X5 (2010)

Admittedly i haven't driven an SQ5, but have tested a Q5 3.0d. I've heard the SQ5 sounds ace. I was tempted, but got concerned by the all new model due next year. Put simply, I wouldn't want to sink £50k into a top of the range car in it's 6th year, regardless of how good it was. It feels (and looks) it's age now. Better of waiting and ordering a Macan.

Then i came across these Touareg deals. Always 'quite' liked the car, but never loved it. This R Line version is by far the most attractive model yet, and to me the first time it's been a headturner. I took one out expecting to like it, and came away loving it. Engine is super smooth, gearbox quick enough, steering sharp(ish), and for a dad with a young family, more than enough grunt (I had an M135i last year so used to having nippy cars). Between 6 and 7 Seconds (to 60) is a good time for straight line pace in an SUV of that size. Any faster feels unnecessary, any slower than 8 seconds feels sluggish.

Ive put down £2900 and will be paying £344 for 2 years. That's with Met paint and Servicing. That's probably on par with a golf GTI, and it's a car nudging £50k!! The fact it comes fully loaded is a massive bonus. The roof alone is sensational.

Edited by Labbetts on Wednesday 1st April 18:19

I'm exactly the same as you pal, always liked the look of the model but never really looked into them until these deals came about. I think I will try and get my bum in one over Easter I think its the best and certainly most effective option out there!
£300 odd is daft for a near 50k motor!!!

The SQ5 is impressive no doubt. It does sound awesome and it's got a lot more punch than the standard 3.0d Q5, BUT is it worth £300 more a month than the VW - I dont think so.

If it rides nicely then I think we'll sign up, everything else ticks the boxes.

Any must have options?

[akeithj]

I think those of us who have ordered have just got in, in time, I have just checked the VW website and the 262 R line is now back up to £48,215, so the £5k discount applied in March has now been removed.I would expect Q2 lease deals to go up accordingly.

[robsdesk]

akeithj said:

I think those of us who have ordered have just got in, in time, I have just checked the VW website and the 262 R line is now back up to £48,215, so the £5k discount applied in March has now been removed.I would expect Q2 lease deals to go up accordingly.

Interesting - you're right the £5k 'discount' has vanished, however drive the deal are offering £2k off the 204 & £4k off the 262 if you take VW finance (which has also dropped to 6.1% from 6.9%), the current numbers to buy one (assuming you take finance) are within a few £100 of what I've paid under the previous pricing. Looks like they've just shifted the support from the cash price to a deposit contribution for the finance.

I do think this will impact leasing deals though - as the cash price of the car is now higher.

[Blue62]

I bought the SQ5 for Mrs Blue, it is a fantastic bit of kit as an all rounder, but a very different proposition to the Treg. I'd argue that there not really comparable, I see the VW in the Discovery/Q7/X5 class and the SQ more in the Macan/X3 category. If you go SQ5 you will love the noise, handling and pace, my advice would be to go for the smaller wheels (we didn't) as the ride is so much better, but on price it is a car you have to try hard to justify. I've had a few days in a Treg and would recommend the air suspension, night and day to a standard car in my experience and all round great value, but if you want a performance SUV it can't compete with the SQ.

[HarryW]

robsdesk said:

akeithj said:

I think those of us who have ordered have just got in, in time, I have just checked the VW website and the 262 R line is now back up to £48,215, so the £5k discount applied in March has now been removed.I would expect Q2 lease deals to go up accordingly.

Interesting - you're right the £5k 'discount' has vanished, however drive the deal are offering £2k off the 204 & £4k off the 262 if you take VW finance (which has also dropped to 6.1% from 6.9%), the current numbers to buy one (assuming you take finance) are within a few £100 of what I've paid under the previous pricing. Looks like they've just shifted the support from the cash price to a deposit contribution for the finance.

I do think this will impact leasing deals though - as the cash price of the car is now higher.

Just checked Freedom and the prices have gone up by near £1k over the 24m 8k miles, it's now £11433, still fairly good tbh.
Main dealer via What Car has only gone up to £11280, so a better deal.....

Edited by HarryW on Thursday 2nd April 19:35