TT-RS ?

[blade7]

How good are they, early manual cars seem to be around £25k which seem like quite a lot for a 5/6 year old car. Are there likely to big bills as they get older. On the Audi forums they seem to get a lot of stick from RS4 owners.

[Dr G]

They go like hell and are wildly tunable both for more go and for more turn.

Fun, characterful little cars

[rb5er]

Fast but numb to drive.

[Dr G]

Like a lot of cars based on that platform they major on grip and stability. If you're in to playing with things there are no end of options for altering the balance into something more lively/aggressive.

As a starting point the MSS kits are very well regarded:

http://www.msskits.com/mss-spring-kits/#sthash.XQ4...

[blade7]

Thanks for the opinions, I keep thinking about a TT-RS as a replacement for my weekend car. I just wonder if 340 bhp is going to be better in a TT-RS than 944T ?

Edited by blade7 on Saturday 16th May 11:46

[Hoonmeister]

blade7 said:

Thanks for the opinions, I keep thinking about a TT-RS as a replacement for my weekend car. I just wonder if 340 bhp is going to be better in a TT-RS than 944T ?

Edited by blade7 on Saturday 16th May 11:46

Most of the TTRS owners are on here:
http://www.ttforum.co.uk/forum/viewforum.php?f=19
I'm on most audi rs forums but that is the best for TTRS, everything from stock roadsters to APR stage 3 with 600+ horse.

I had a 944 turbo in the early 90s.. great car.
I changed out of a 911 into the TTRS as a daily driver and have modded it a bit so far.

With suspension and brake mods mine stays with all manner of exotica.
Runs 0-60 3.8 and 100 in 8.4

The manual gearboxes can be fragile if you remap to big torque...500 lb/ft
If you can afford it the s-tronic is sublime.

Any questions just ask.

[Hoonmeister]

[blade7]

Thanks for the info Hoon, I don't fancy an auto though. How does your TT drive compared to your old 944T ?

[Hoonmeister]

To be honest its too long since I have driven a 944 to compare.
Grab a test drive in a used rs in an audi dealer and see what you think.

[BentleyTTRS]

Ive had mine since November and as already said, there is no end of mods to keep you interested if thats your sort of thing. I have mine tweaked to a little over 400bhp and it really is a fun drive. I had a faulty spark plug just after I bought it, but apart from that no extra expenses other than maintenance costs.

[blade7]

BentleyTTRS said:

Ive had mine since November and as already said, there is no end of mods to keep you interested if thats your sort of thing. I have mine tweaked to a little over 400bhp and it really is a fun drive. I had a faulty spark plug just after I bought it, but apart from that no extra expenses other than maintenance costs.

I see you're in Bedfordshire, did you buy your car from a local dealer ?

[ShireRoller]

It would be a tough one between this an the 135i personally!
Both easily tuneable. Think the BM would be a little more involving an i'm not just referring to tail wagging. Although from A to B I can see the TT covering ground quicker all weather

[BentleyTTRS]

blade7 said:

I see you're in Bedfordshire, did you buy your car from a local dealer ?

No, I bought it from Parkway cars in mansfield. Wasn't many about when I was looking. Seem a fair few about since the mk3 came out.

[Davio]

I'm currently looking for one of these at the moment, there is one on autotrader (S tronic sepang Blue) for £29,4k looks lovely although not sure sure if not having mag ride is a deal breaker for me?

[blade7]

I keep coming back to one of these for my next weekend car, do they feel like a FWD car until the front loses grip, or can the Haldex be setup for permanent 4WD ?

[SuperchargedVR6]

blade7 said:

I keep coming back to one of these for my next weekend car, do they feel like a FWD car until the front loses grip, or can the Haldex be setup for permanent 4WD ?

You mean lock it to 50/50 permanently? You can with aftermarket parts / controllers but the thing with Haldex is, it's 'up to' 50/50 all the time anyway. If you run it fully-on permanently, you'll get nasty binding on full lock (if the <10mph bypass is deleted) and pretty bad under steer. It's what I experienced in my R32 at least. The people who want 50/50 full time are generally only 1/4 mile racers who don't need cornering ability!

[Dr G]

...but yes, you can play with both Haldex and suspension for a more aggressive balance.

Have a chat with TTS Roadsport - they've experience in this area.

[blade7]

I was thinking something like the RS4's 60/40 rear bias, isn't the TT's Haldex pretty much FWD until slip is detected ?

[SuperchargedVR6]

RS4 uses the traditional 'Quattro' longitudinal drivetrain. All transverse 4WD cars use Haldex and yep, wheel slip is the primary sensor but the later the revision, the more intelligent it is i.e. it can proactively engage the Haldex clutch before slip begins.

[Dr G]

blade7 said:

I was thinking something like the RS4's 60/40 rear bias, isn't the TT's Haldex pretty much FWD until slip is detected ?

Simplistically, yes. Haldex relies upon sensor inputs to control its behaviour and as standard it's largely programmed to be a stability aid. The performance Haldex ECUs allow it to act in a much more proactive manner.

This combined with some simple suspension modifications and careful geometry changes will get it up on its toes nicely. It'll never feel like a TVR or M car in the oversteer stakes but they can without major wallet-ache be made to feel very lively and agile.

11 second quarter miles not hard either...