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Anyone else looking at or ordered the Mk2 Q7 yet? Reviews so far have been very positive and the performance and (alleged) economy look great. The styling is more beefed-up estate and not quite as "imposing" as the original version.
For various reasons, we have decided to replace the trusty X5 and have looked at all of the options in the estate / crossover / SUV sector and, it came down to getting another X5, or the Q7 which came out as the best when we looked at the lease prices, due for delivery in September. It's also nice to have a change as the F15 isn't greatly different to our E70.
The Q7 standard spec is pretty high - especially in S Line trim - and we have just added a couple of options which hiked the price a bit more than expected but still a very competitive quote from Egon compared to the others - most of whom are still offering the Mk1!!! Beware of this if you are in the market for one.
The only version available at launch in August is the 3.0 TDi, 270hp version in SE or S Line trim with other versions from 220hp to the ETron due next year. Luckily, the 270 S Line is the version we would have picked anyway as we don't do a high enough mileage to justify the expected £12000 premium for the ETron (although I have no idea what the lease prices will be on that when it comes out).
So, roll on September!
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For various reasons, we have decided to replace the trusty X5 and have looked at all of the options in the estate / crossover / SUV sector and, it came down to getting another X5, or the Q7 which came out as the best when we looked at the lease prices, due for delivery in September. It's also nice to have a change as the F15 isn't greatly different to our E70.
The Q7 standard spec is pretty high - especially in S Line trim - and we have just added a couple of options which hiked the price a bit more than expected but still a very competitive quote from Egon compared to the others - most of whom are still offering the Mk1!!! Beware of this if you are in the market for one.
The only version available at launch in August is the 3.0 TDi, 270hp version in SE or S Line trim with other versions from 220hp to the ETron due next year. Luckily, the 270 S Line is the version we would have picked anyway as we don't do a high enough mileage to justify the expected £12000 premium for the ETron (although I have no idea what the lease prices will be on that when it comes out).
So, roll on September!
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Hmm, guess that means NO!
Oh well, changing the subject slightly, I have received notice that the car is status 10, build week 28 which, I believe, means order received / build due mid-July ish but does anyone have any more definite info?
Is there an Audi order tracker I can access like the one VW operates?
Please, someone.........ANYONE!!!
Help is at hand. Audi have just launched this. It's still not fully live but if you have an order number then plug it in and you'll see what stage everything is at. https://www.audi.co.uk/content/audi/youraudi/youra...
Working out a spec for a 3.0d ourselves at the moment.
Was waiting on the Hybrid details to come out and to try the new XC90 before pulling the trigger - not sure the Hybrid will be worth it for the miles we do and drove the new XC90 at the weekend but discounted it due to the rough-sounding 4 pot diesel.
Very easy to get some big prices on the new car, may have to review my option choices carefully...
Cheers,
Phil
Was waiting on the Hybrid details to come out and to try the new XC90 before pulling the trigger - not sure the Hybrid will be worth it for the miles we do and drove the new XC90 at the weekend but discounted it due to the rough-sounding 4 pot diesel.
Very easy to get some big prices on the new car, may have to review my option choices carefully...
Cheers,
Phil
Well, I have tried to get into the order tracker but it needs the postcode as well as the order number so I am finding out which postcode was put on the order (done through the leasing company) then we will see...
Hi Phil - yeah, that's definitely the fun bit, working out your spec. There are tons of options and so many ways of upping the price of the car, whether you're buying or leasing. Don't know which of these you're doing but the Q7 worked out the best overall deal by far and the ETron version only makes sense if you do really big miles. (I read a comparison on the web somewhere). In an Aussie review, they also said the Q7 has the best cabin space in its segment and was a nice drive (Car Advice on youtube ?).
FWIW, we have gone for the Daytona Grey pearl paint which is the same price as the other metallics and co-ordinates with the other exterior trim colours nicely (plus Mrs BB likes the sparkle); then we added the reversing camera and rear, side airbags and non-smoking pack. I wanted to add a detachable tow bar for a bike rack we use but the only available option appears to be the "trailer pack" which is great if you want to pull a caravan or something but a bit OTT for us, and a £1300 option!
Hi Phil - yeah, that's definitely the fun bit, working out your spec. There are tons of options and so many ways of upping the price of the car, whether you're buying or leasing. Don't know which of these you're doing but the Q7 worked out the best overall deal by far and the ETron version only makes sense if you do really big miles. (I read a comparison on the web somewhere). In an Aussie review, they also said the Q7 has the best cabin space in its segment and was a nice drive (Car Advice on youtube ?).
FWIW, we have gone for the Daytona Grey pearl paint which is the same price as the other metallics and co-ordinates with the other exterior trim colours nicely (plus Mrs BB likes the sparkle); then we added the reversing camera and rear, side airbags and non-smoking pack. I wanted to add a detachable tow bar for a bike rack we use but the only available option appears to be the "trailer pack" which is great if you want to pull a caravan or something but a bit OTT for us, and a £1300 option!
Sorry bit late to this thread but I'll be in the queue for a new Q7 at some point. Hats of to you for committing without seeing the thing. Currently there are 2 in the country, doing the rounds of the dealers for open days. No demos. I can't be bothered to go to one of these evenings, and have to fight past over people swarming over the car, so I'll wait until September when dealers actually have their own driveable demos before deciding what to do.
Must say I'm very impressed by the amount of tech that is standard that used to be big bucks e.g. HD/touchscreen satnav, bluetooth, MMI. You could practically take a standard S-line model, add metallic paint, and have pretty much the equivalent of the old model that would need to be specced to the hilt. Pretty decent reduction in weight as well - though I was hoping for a bit more.
On the downside, the air suspension on the new car can only be purchased as part of a £2600 "pack", and I think that everything else in the pack adds little value (but probably costs a lot). Pretty poor that you can't just add air suspension as an option on its own. I bet all of the dealer demos also come with the air suspension pack, so it's going to be very hard to try the standard springs vs air before you make a decision.
A lot of the options just seem like tech overload. I really don't think that I need a car that will drive itself at up to 37mph and stay inside its own lane. The LED headlights that stay on full beam permanently but automatically turn individual elements off to avoid dazzling oncoming cars sounds like a good idea, but will it work in practice. The digital dash option sounds fun, but will the display start to fail after a few years like older Audi lcd panels did? And why in the name of all that is holy is a frickin' towbar £1300? The Q7 makes a great tow vehicle (I hardly notice I'm towing my racecar and trailer behind mine) but £1000 on the old model and £1300 on the new is a pisstake. Just seems like Audi have decided "the people who need a towbar will be forced to pay whatever we want, so we can just invent a stupid price for it".
Apparently the latest TT is the only other car in the Audi range to have all this fancy new tech, and they're still ironing out the bugs. I might give it a year for Audi to get to grips with all the fancy new stuff and address all the recall issues that will undoubtedly come out of the woodwork.
Finally, I'm not 100% sure about the looks and I might wait to see if the engine options change. I'd love to get their latest 4.2tdi in this thing, but it's not being offered at the moment.
Must say I'm very impressed by the amount of tech that is standard that used to be big bucks e.g. HD/touchscreen satnav, bluetooth, MMI. You could practically take a standard S-line model, add metallic paint, and have pretty much the equivalent of the old model that would need to be specced to the hilt. Pretty decent reduction in weight as well - though I was hoping for a bit more.
On the downside, the air suspension on the new car can only be purchased as part of a £2600 "pack", and I think that everything else in the pack adds little value (but probably costs a lot). Pretty poor that you can't just add air suspension as an option on its own. I bet all of the dealer demos also come with the air suspension pack, so it's going to be very hard to try the standard springs vs air before you make a decision.
A lot of the options just seem like tech overload. I really don't think that I need a car that will drive itself at up to 37mph and stay inside its own lane. The LED headlights that stay on full beam permanently but automatically turn individual elements off to avoid dazzling oncoming cars sounds like a good idea, but will it work in practice. The digital dash option sounds fun, but will the display start to fail after a few years like older Audi lcd panels did? And why in the name of all that is holy is a frickin' towbar £1300? The Q7 makes a great tow vehicle (I hardly notice I'm towing my racecar and trailer behind mine) but £1000 on the old model and £1300 on the new is a pisstake. Just seems like Audi have decided "the people who need a towbar will be forced to pay whatever we want, so we can just invent a stupid price for it".
Apparently the latest TT is the only other car in the Audi range to have all this fancy new tech, and they're still ironing out the bugs. I might give it a year for Audi to get to grips with all the fancy new stuff and address all the recall issues that will undoubtedly come out of the woodwork.
Finally, I'm not 100% sure about the looks and I might wait to see if the engine options change. I'd love to get their latest 4.2tdi in this thing, but it's not being offered at the moment.
After a bit of ferretting about, it seems the Audi order tracker is not working at present and they don't know when it will be back up. :/
I'll keep trying but the Audi dealership where the order was placed was very helpful and confirmed all was well.
Hi Philbo - yes, it is a bit of a risk, ordering without seeing and some of the pics of the nose of the car make it look a bit out of proportion but I'll just hope it looks better in the metal. The reviews and videos have all been complimentary and, as we know, the media isn't shy about giving new Audis a good kicking if they're not up to muster, so I'll take my chances. To be completely honest, it is going to be my wife's car principally so if she's happy with it... Incidentally, I tried to steer her towards the VW Touareg R which has some cracking lease deals at the moment but she didn't like the look of it and, in fairness, we do regularly use the 3rd row seating in the X5 which wasn't even an option in the VW.
Totally agree with you about the great spec and about the cost of the options but to clarify - the £1300 was for the trailer pack which included several bits of kit (including an electrically deploying and stowing towbar) and is probably worth the money if you regularly tow a trailer / caravan or whatever. When I first started looking, I'm sure a detachable towbar was available on its own for about £850 (!) but that seems to have disappeared from the options list since. I'll check back regularly to see if it has returned.
I'll keep trying but the Audi dealership where the order was placed was very helpful and confirmed all was well.
Hi Philbo - yes, it is a bit of a risk, ordering without seeing and some of the pics of the nose of the car make it look a bit out of proportion but I'll just hope it looks better in the metal. The reviews and videos have all been complimentary and, as we know, the media isn't shy about giving new Audis a good kicking if they're not up to muster, so I'll take my chances. To be completely honest, it is going to be my wife's car principally so if she's happy with it... Incidentally, I tried to steer her towards the VW Touareg R which has some cracking lease deals at the moment but she didn't like the look of it and, in fairness, we do regularly use the 3rd row seating in the X5 which wasn't even an option in the VW.
Totally agree with you about the great spec and about the cost of the options but to clarify - the £1300 was for the trailer pack which included several bits of kit (including an electrically deploying and stowing towbar) and is probably worth the money if you regularly tow a trailer / caravan or whatever. When I first started looking, I'm sure a detachable towbar was available on its own for about £850 (!) but that seems to have disappeared from the options list since. I'll check back regularly to see if it has returned.
Do not under-estimate how good the new matrix headlamps are - have got them on our other car and they really make a difference for night driving, never been flashed by on-coming traffic with them either. I won't be hesitating to tick that box when ordering.
The pre-release car at MK last month interestingly did not have the LCD instrument cluster which I thought was a little odd for a show car.
The pre-release car at MK last month interestingly did not have the LCD instrument cluster which I thought was a little odd for a show car.
Fair comment on the headlights, Phil, especially as you already have them on your other car . I looked at the matrix headlights but the S-Line comes with "all weather LED headlights" which are probably really cool and effective (?) and it was another £950 for the matrix ones so left that box unchecked on our order 
I really like the virtual dashboard thing - a friend has this on his Tesla - but, again, quite expensive as an option and the standard dashboard / instrument binnacle is not unattractive IMO.
There is quite a lot of extra kit fitted to our X5 but a lot of it is rarely used tbh.
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I really like the virtual dashboard thing - a friend has this on his Tesla - but, again, quite expensive as an option and the standard dashboard / instrument binnacle is not unattractive IMO.
There is quite a lot of extra kit fitted to our X5 but a lot of it is rarely used tbh.
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Thought I'd resurrect this thread instead of starting another.
Just had word that our Q7 which was scheduled for September delivery has arrived and will be ready for delivery next week! Mrs BB is very happy - obviously - and so am I as the X5 sold (very quickly) a couple of weeks ago and she has pinched the keys to my Golf since.
Anyway, this should be one of the first Mk2 Q7s around and I'm hoping it'll at least fill the quite large gap left by the X5 and hope the fuel economy is an improvement too!
I'll post up some first impressions and pics as soon as poss.
Just had word that our Q7 which was scheduled for September delivery has arrived and will be ready for delivery next week! Mrs BB is very happy - obviously - and so am I as the X5 sold (very quickly) a couple of weeks ago and she has pinched the keys to my Golf since.
Anyway, this should be one of the first Mk2 Q7s around and I'm hoping it'll at least fill the quite large gap left by the X5 and hope the fuel economy is an improvement too!
I'll post up some first impressions and pics as soon as poss.
BreakingBad said:
Thought I'd resurrect this thread instead of starting another.
Just had word that our Q7 which was scheduled for September delivery has arrived and will be ready for delivery next week! Mrs BB is very happy - obviously - and so am I as the X5 sold (very quickly) a couple of weeks ago and she has pinched the keys to my Golf since.
Anyway, this should be one of the first Mk2 Q7s around and I'm hoping it'll at least fill the quite large gap left by the X5 and hope the fuel economy is an improvement too!
I'll post up some first impressions and pics as soon as poss.
Congrats, you must be getting one of the very first customer cars in the country. Most of the dealers aren't going to get theirs until next month!Just had word that our Q7 which was scheduled for September delivery has arrived and will be ready for delivery next week! Mrs BB is very happy - obviously - and so am I as the X5 sold (very quickly) a couple of weeks ago and she has pinched the keys to my Golf since.
Anyway, this should be one of the first Mk2 Q7s around and I'm hoping it'll at least fill the quite large gap left by the X5 and hope the fuel economy is an improvement too!
I'll post up some first impressions and pics as soon as poss.
Let us know how you get on with it, hope you like it.
Thanks Philbo.
Took delivery this morning and first impressions are very favourable indeed:
Exterior looks much more like a big estate car than the previous model - I actually like both styles, for the type of car they are - and the proportions are quite good. It was only when our 9 year old stood next to the car that we got a better idea of the size. The wheels / tyres are massive.
Interior has plenty of room in the first two rows and the 3rd row is pretty good but means the other two have to shift forward a little to even things out sufficiently. The alcantara and leather seats seem very comfortable although a longer journey will be better to judge by.
Equipment is very impressive and we didn't add anything to the standard spec except for the reversing camera which is pretty much essential for parking in town etc and it gives a very clear, well-defined image.
To drive, it is VERY smooth, quiet and, it seems, soaks up the bumps extremely well and far, far better than the X5 (E70) ever did but still corners without any wallow, at modest speeds anyway.
A few clever touches include option to duplicate the sat nav display between the speedo and tacho if required; electric folding / raising 3rd row seats and numerous means of connection for various external media, all as standard.
Will post more details and / or some pics if anyone asks or is interested.
Took delivery this morning and first impressions are very favourable indeed:
Exterior looks much more like a big estate car than the previous model - I actually like both styles, for the type of car they are - and the proportions are quite good. It was only when our 9 year old stood next to the car that we got a better idea of the size. The wheels / tyres are massive.
Interior has plenty of room in the first two rows and the 3rd row is pretty good but means the other two have to shift forward a little to even things out sufficiently. The alcantara and leather seats seem very comfortable although a longer journey will be better to judge by.
Equipment is very impressive and we didn't add anything to the standard spec except for the reversing camera which is pretty much essential for parking in town etc and it gives a very clear, well-defined image.
To drive, it is VERY smooth, quiet and, it seems, soaks up the bumps extremely well and far, far better than the X5 (E70) ever did but still corners without any wallow, at modest speeds anyway.
A few clever touches include option to duplicate the sat nav display between the speedo and tacho if required; electric folding / raising 3rd row seats and numerous means of connection for various external media, all as standard.
Will post more details and / or some pics if anyone asks or is interested.
Hi scotty and td'
Been a bit busy and only just logged on.
Very happy with it so far - taking a bit of time to learn all the gadgets and get used to the size of the car - not sure how the dimensions compare exactly but it certainly FEELS longer and wider than our old X5. The middle row is 3 full-sized seats and there seems more legroom in all 3 rows, too.
It is leagues ahead of the BMW in NVH / refinement / ride comfort - I always thought the X5 was a very harsh ride - the old MSport suspension and run-flat tyre combo giving you quite a going-over on anything less than perfect road surfaces.
Styling wise, the exterior is fine but nothing special. I suppose the bulk of the car is well disguised and it certainly isn't unattractive but, well, you wouldn't buy it for its looks IMO. Inside though, it is very nice: I love the seats, the "full width " style dashboard and the ergonomics seem very good although there is a lot to get used to.
A bit early to comment on performance and economy of course but appears to have effortless acceleration to 50mph and beyond . Happy to update on this or other aspects if asked..
I have taken a few pics on my iPad just now and will try to upload them - hopefully the right way up...
Been a bit busy and only just logged on.
Very happy with it so far - taking a bit of time to learn all the gadgets and get used to the size of the car - not sure how the dimensions compare exactly but it certainly FEELS longer and wider than our old X5. The middle row is 3 full-sized seats and there seems more legroom in all 3 rows, too.
It is leagues ahead of the BMW in NVH / refinement / ride comfort - I always thought the X5 was a very harsh ride - the old MSport suspension and run-flat tyre combo giving you quite a going-over on anything less than perfect road surfaces.
Styling wise, the exterior is fine but nothing special. I suppose the bulk of the car is well disguised and it certainly isn't unattractive but, well, you wouldn't buy it for its looks IMO. Inside though, it is very nice: I love the seats, the "full width " style dashboard and the ergonomics seem very good although there is a lot to get used to.
A bit early to comment on performance and economy of course but appears to have effortless acceleration to 50mph and beyond . Happy to update on this or other aspects if asked..
I have taken a few pics on my iPad just now and will try to upload them - hopefully the right way up...
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