Start/Stop - Experiences?

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bitchstewie

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51,200 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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I'm finding the stop/start on my mk7 Golf a little hard to get used to - it's my first stop/start car so I'm not really sure what to expect.

For example, if I pull off the drive in the morning, so it's been sat 12 hours, it will often kick in if I have to stop at the junction a couple of hundred yards down the road.

Drive a mile and stop at the island at the end of that road - doesn't kick in.

Drive to work and at some random stop in traffic it will kick in, but often doesn't.

Arrive at work and drop the DSG box into "Park" and it kills the engine.

Pretty much the same in reverse heading home.

I was expecting it to be a little more predictable - is this normal?

thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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It will only kick in if the engine is up to a certain temp I believe.

bitchstewie

Original Poster:

51,200 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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thebraketester said:
It will only kick in if the engine is up to a certain temp I believe.
Can't be though else it wouldn't kick in at the end of my road when the engine is absolutely stone cold?

thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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Pass... could be another issue. Get it scanned

bitchstewie

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51,200 posts

210 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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I'm not at all sure there's anything wrong with it - I simply don't have any other point of reference on how it should behave on this make and model of car, hence asking other Golf 7 owners on here.

Tony 1234

3,465 posts

227 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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I've a 1.4 MK7 Runabout and stop-start only operates when the engine is hot, could be something wrong with yours OP?

andrewparker

8,014 posts

187 months

Sunday 2nd August 2015
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The only reason is doesn't kick in when the engine is up to temperature is that a regen is occurring.

LeoSayer

7,305 posts

244 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Exactly the same behaviour as my 2014 Audi A3 S-tronic.

It’s normal.

The car uses the information from various sensor to decide when/if to switch off the engine to ensure there will be enough charge to restart when the time comes as well as keeping systems running whilst stopped eg. fan, lights, stereo etc.

For ‘fun’ you can make the engine restart by turning the steering wheel or even adjusting the fan or temperature.

bitchstewie

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51,200 posts

210 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Thanks, and again to be clear I've no reason to think it isn't working, I guess I simply expected for it to be stopping every time the thing went into auto-hold (being a DSG it tends to get put in "D" then driven to destination then in "P", it's never in neutral).

SteBrown91

2,384 posts

129 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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On mqb cars you can't disable s/s in vagcom but you can alter its minimum temp before activation (to something like 60 degrees) and it never kicks in.

Then you don't need to worry about it!

HenrysDad

3,423 posts

247 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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Simple solution - start car, deactivate S/S. Best thing to do IMHO.

servantleader

113 posts

127 months

Monday 3rd August 2015
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You can prevent the engine from turning off by not depressing the brake pedal as far as usual. Give it a try and you'll soon get the hang of it!

thebraketester

14,224 posts

138 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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SteBrown91 said:
On mqb cars you can't disable s/s in vagcom but you can alter its minimum temp before activation (to something like 60 degrees) and it never kicks in.

Then you don't need to worry about it!
Can't you alter it to 100+ so it never kicks in?

AJB88

12,404 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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SteBrown91 said:
On mqb cars you can't disable s/s in vagcom but you can alter its minimum temp before activation (to something like 60 degrees) and it never kicks in.

Then you don't need to worry about it!
Turned mine off with VCDS on my MQB 2014 SEAT Leon Cupra 280.

DarkMatter

1,473 posts

231 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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servantleader said:
You can prevent the engine from turning off by not depressing the brake pedal as far as usual. Give it a try and you'll soon get the hang of it!
Works for me yes

Also when the engine has switched itself off you can prepare to pull away by slightly releasing the brake pedal, the engine will start but the car will not move.

Dr G

15,172 posts

242 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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HenrysDad said:
Simple solution - start car, deactivate S/S. Best thing to do IMHO.
Remember on old Audis where the 'soft touch' would always wear out on the radio preset buttons?

I think in years to come we'll have the same problem with the 'start-stop off' button. It's the first one I press in the morning wink

AJB88

12,404 posts

171 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Could I not use the android phone to tether the chromecast to and then connect to VPN? so everything goes through phone?

va1o

16,032 posts

207 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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I find on mine you can control whether the Start/ Stop kicks in by the brake pedal. Press it in firmly for a prolonged period and it generally cuts in, but if you just press it lightly then the engine stays on.

The only time the Stop/ Start irritates me is in motorway traffic with the adaptive cruise, as it tends to cut in as soon as the car in front moves of again!

EDIT: Should say this is on a month old GTD DSG!

H6CJF

666 posts

191 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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Factors affecting ss operation:

Engine temp
Batt charge level
Batt temp not too high or low
Steering not on full lock
Drivers Door not open
Bonnet not open
Not on Steep incline
Drivers Seat belt fastened
Park assist not active
No trailer plug connected
Vehicle has moved since last actuation of ss
Not in reverse
No large electrical loads

HTH

Magic919

14,126 posts

201 months

Tuesday 4th August 2015
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AJB88 said:
Could I not use the android phone to tether the chromecast to and then connect to VPN? so everything goes through phone?
Maybe in some other thread.