Any Audi A6 Diesel BiDi (twin) Turbo owners?

Any Audi A6 Diesel BiDi (twin) Turbo owners?

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Raven Flyer

1,642 posts

224 months

Friday 30th October 2015
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Mine came with P Zeros and I have been impressed with their grip. The turn in is excellent and the mid bend adjustment is way beyond what a car of this weight should give.

The downside is tyre noise on concrete road surfaces. They are LOUD.

Raven Flyer

1,642 posts

224 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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Just a quick point on Sat Nav input... It is much easier if you use voice control.

IainT

10,040 posts

238 months

Sunday 1st November 2015
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Raven Flyer said:
The downside is tyre noise on concrete road surfaces. They are LOUD.
The Bridgestones seem average in that resprect, wet grip is great and I'm not planning on testing out the dry grip limits on public roads smile

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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I put some new tyres on mine (AllRoad BiTdi) this weekend and the handling is much improved, for two reasons I think. First, no quattro I've ever owned has felt well when the tread is low, tramlining being a particular issue – with new tyres this is gone, for the time being. Secondly, having the tyres inflated correctly. I didn't realise (and evidently neither did Audi, it having just been serviced) that not only do the 20" tyres run quite a high pressure but also they run higher front than back.

Much happier with the car now.

BTW on the way home the 'low tyre pressure' warning came to life, checked pressures OK then cancelled this in the MMI – need to learn how this works, for curiosity.

Blue62

8,872 posts

152 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Yertis said:
BTW on the way home the 'low tyre pressure' warning came to life, checked pressures OK then cancelled this in the MMI – need to learn how this works, for curiosity.
Check the pressures and then go to the 'car' section of the MMI checks and service and reset the tyre pressure. My only gripe is that I have one tyre that loses pressure every couple of weeks (quite common with low profiles) but the pressure monitor only pings when it gets very low, had hoped it would be a tad more sensitive.

Raven Flyer

1,642 posts

224 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Blue62 said:
Check the pressures and then go to the 'car' section of the MMI checks and service and reset the tyre pressure. My only gripe is that I have one tyre that loses pressure every couple of weeks (quite common with low profiles) but the pressure monitor only pings when it gets very low, had hoped it would be a tad more sensitive.
It's not common.

It is either wheel lip corrosion, a porous alloy, a faulty valve or a puncture... and it's worth getting it fixed.

I kept getting this on my C6 and wrecked two tyres as a result of them getting too low (no pressure sensors fitted). Basically the wheel lip paint had been worn away and the air was leaking through the alloy material and between the tyre and the alloy. I got the wheels fully refurbished (Paint It near Billericay) and never lost 1psi to air leakage again.

Blue62

8,872 posts

152 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Raven Flyer said:
It's not common.

It is either wheel lip corrosion, a porous alloy, a faulty valve or a puncture... and it's worth getting it fixed.

I kept getting this on my C6 and wrecked two tyres as a result of them getting too low (no pressure sensors fitted). Basically the wheel lip paint had been worn away and the air was leaking through the alloy material and between the tyre and the alloy. I got the wheels fully refurbished (Paint It near Billericay) and never lost 1psi to air leakage again.
It's a nine month old RS4 and the wheels are fine, it loses a couple of psi every 500 miles or so which is ok in my book with low profiles, just have to be more diligent which is no bad thing.

Raven Flyer

1,642 posts

224 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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A modern tyre should not leak any air. 3 of yours don't, 1 does. That isn't right.

If the car is that new, I would get Audi to change the valve and possible re-seat the tyre.

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Blue62 said:
Yertis said:
BTW on the way home the 'low tyre pressure' warning came to life, checked pressures OK then cancelled this in the MMI – need to learn how this works, for curiosity.
Check the pressures and then go to the 'car' section of the MMI checks and service and reset the tyre pressure. My only gripe is that I have one tyre that loses pressure every couple of weeks (quite common with low profiles) but the pressure monitor only pings when it gets very low, had hoped it would be a tad more sensitive.
I mean technically how it works, how does the car sense that a tyre is soft?

Blue62

8,872 posts

152 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Raven Flyer said:
A modern tyre should not leak any air. 3 of yours don't, 1 does. That isn't right.

If the car is that new, I would get Audi to change the valve and possible re-seat the tyre.
The other 3 tyres do lose air, just not at the same rate as the NSR. I've never heard of any tyre that doesn't lose pressure, but maybe I'm taking you too literally. I will get Audi to look at it when it's in for service.

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Monday 2nd November 2015
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Oh FFS here we go... rolleyes

Raven Flyer

1,642 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2015
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Yertis said:
Oh FFS here we go... rolleyes
The BiTDI is not affected.

Even a cheat routine wouldn't get them through the US emissions test wink

Yertis

18,052 posts

266 months

Tuesday 3rd November 2015
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Raven Flyer said:
Yertis said:
Oh FFS here we go... rolleyes
The BiTDI is not affected.

Even a cheat routine wouldn't get them through the US emissions test wink
Phew!

IainT

10,040 posts

238 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Yertis said:
Raven Flyer said:
Yertis said:
Oh FFS here we go... rolleyes
The BiTDI is not affected.

Even a cheat routine wouldn't get them through the US emissions test wink
Phew!
Given a lot of us bought them for the performance having them remapped to make the emissions target would be a kicker, it'd be good news if they weren't impacted by the latest EPA accusation. Is there a definitive list of which models/engines the EPA are including in their latest (denied by VAG) release?

Raven Flyer

1,642 posts

224 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Yep, the BiTDi has never been sold in the US so not subject to EPA testing... and cheating.

Lucas Ayde

3,559 posts

168 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Yertis said:
I mean technically how it works, how does the car sense that a tyre is soft?
Some systems have pressure monitors on the wheel, inside the pressurised space between alloy and tyre, but most cars use the ABS sensors to spot wheels that are rotating at a slightly different speed (due to deflating tyre).

I was sceptical of this system but it has spotted tyres with low pressures for me in the past. Not sure exactly how sensitive it is though.

IainT

10,040 posts

238 months

Wednesday 4th November 2015
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Lucas Ayde said:
Yertis said:
I mean technically how it works, how does the car sense that a tyre is soft?
Some systems have pressure monitors on the wheel, inside the pressurised space between alloy and tyre, but most cars use the ABS sensors to spot wheels that are rotating at a slightly different speed (due to deflating tyre).

I was sceptical of this system but it has spotted tyres with low pressures for me in the past. Not sure exactly how sensitive it is though.
I was having a nose in the 'car systems' menu on mine earlier and noticed that it has a calibration bit for the pressure sensor. The Audi system seems to be the in-wheel type:

http://www.audi.co.uk/glossary/t/tyre-pressure-mon...

Raven Flyer

1,642 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th November 2015
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When VAG first used these on Bentleys they were very unreliable and left warning lights permanently lit. Owners deleted them with VCDS.

They seem more reliable these days.

Edited by Raven Flyer on Thursday 5th November 12:24