A6 Avant BiTurbo

[AMDBSTony]

Wonder if anyone can help me?

Am looking at getting a biturbo and would like to know what your mileage and average mpg is over that period. Would think that the older and most recent engines will be similar?

Should be listed in the long term memory in the car?

Recent VW issues are pulling me away from the brand, wonder how long term residuals as a result of brand damage will fare.

Any responses re mpg would be appreciated.

Thanks

[rassi]

Just got mine but the first owner never reset the long term memory: 37 mpg over 5800 miles.

As it is hardly run, I think that is a frankly amazing result!

[Yertis]

I've got the AllRoad BiTurbo, just checked and over 18,000-odd miles it's 37.6. Alot of that round town too. Amazing really, given the size and grunt of the thing.

[AMDBSTony]

Thanks guys, very reassuring.

Beleive it or not, I have a 2.0tdi Ultra and I only get 39mpg over 10k miles. Had loads of manual 2.0 tdi but this is an auto and i just cannot get on with it.

The 8 speed is an different animal to the 7 speed in my car, its the way mine takes off from standstill I have an issue with. Seemed ok at first but now its very unresponsive, unlike the 8 speed in the biturbo.

Pity really as mine is the 15MY car but it has to go. I think that given the right circumstances you could hurt yourself in it.

Entering a flowing roundabout from standstill is one scenario where I could see myself getting injured.

Looked at other marques but I really like my Audi as a daily driver - looks like biturbo will be ordered.........

[RGambo]

AMDBSTony said:

Thanks guys, very reassuring.

Beleive it or not, I have a 2.0tdi Ultra and I only get 39mpg over 10k miles. Had loads of manual 2.0 tdi but this is an auto and i just cannot get on with it.

The 8 speed is an different animal to the 7 speed in my car, its the way mine takes off from standstill I have an issue with. Seemed ok at first but now its very unresponsive, unlike the 8 speed in the biturbo.

Pity really as mine is the 15MY car but it has to go. I think that given the right circumstances you could hurt yourself in it.

Entering a flowing roundabout from standstill is one scenario where I could see myself getting injured.

Looked at other marques but I really like my Audi as a daily driver - looks like biturbo will be ordered.........

the pickup on the 8 speed auto in the my bi-turbo was the one bit of the car I did not like. It was a little unresponsive for my liking. reverse (not too much of an issue I know) was especially bad. you had to give it a fair amount of throttle to get it going. but I didn't like the way the revs would pick up to around 2.5K and just site there until the car got to 4th and then it would rise and fall. I know it is a small thing, and to be honest, the rest of the car was superb and I really enjoyed it. It never ceased to amaze me how economical it was for the performance it gave. I do very mixed driving and I was getting after 6K miles about 34mpg, it was infact better on a run that my old 245bhp single turbo diesel.
I have the 8 speed auto in my new car and it much more responsive, so I guess it's just a software issue.

[Raven Flyer]

I have the 320PS BiTDi and the pull away from stationary is much better than my old 2.7 C6. My old car was as the OP described and positively scary pulling onto a busy large roundabout. The new car is much better. I haven't driven a 313PS to compare but I would say my car doesn't have any significant lag.

If you feel yours is laggy, you could try pulling the paddle so it goes into 'manual'.

I really like the reverse gear. It is very slow at low revs, but becomes much faster as the revs rise. This doesn't feel linear but it does avoid any sudden movements when edging closer to something solid.

[rassi]

RGambo said:

the pickup on the 8 speed auto in the my bi-turbo was the one bit of the car I did not like. It was a little unresponsive for my liking. reverse (not too much of an issue I know) was especially bad. you had to give it a fair amount of throttle to get it going. but I didn't like the way the revs would pick up to around 2.5K and just site there until the car got to 4th and then it would rise and fall. I know it is a small thing, and to be honest, the rest of the car was superb and I really enjoyed it. It never ceased to amaze me how economical it was for the performance it gave. I do very mixed driving and I was getting after 6K miles about 34mpg, it was infact better on a run that my old 245bhp single turbo diesel.
I have the 8 speed auto in my new car and it much more responsive, so I guess it's just a software issue.

I know what you mean, it feels like the torque converter is not locking up fully in 1st gear. Easily remedied by putting it in Sport, where it takes off like a scalded cat!

[AMDBSTony]

Worst thing about this is that when you ask Audi about the laggy take off in the 2,0 tdi, nobody will admit to any fault with the car. I was told to feed the power in which, in normal use may be ok but there are times when it is not safe to do this ie merging into traffic is a fast flowing roundabout

I set off from a junction and was nearly hit in the side - it was really busy and one of those situations where road rage from others would easily set in if you didn't go!

Am really now questioning do I stay with Audi???

[rassi]

AMDBSTony said:

Worst thing about this is that when you ask Audi about the laggy take off in the 2,0 tdi, nobody will admit to any fault with the car. I was told to feed the power in which, in normal use may be ok but there are times when it is not safe to do this ie merging into traffic is a fast flowing roundabout

I set off from a junction and was nearly hit in the side - it was really busy and one of those situations where road rage from others would easily set in if you didn't go!

Am really now questioning do I stay with Audi???

Stick with the Audi, it is my first after numerous BMW M models, and can hand on heart say that it is the one that has impressed me the most - fantastic blend of performance, fuel economy and Swiss knife practicality. The BiTDI has the edge over the 535D equivalent if only because of the soundtrack, which is a diesel first for me.

[RGambo]

rassi said:

RGambo said:

the pickup on the 8 speed auto in the my bi-turbo was the one bit of the car I did not like. It was a little unresponsive for my liking. reverse (not too much of an issue I know) was especially bad. you had to give it a fair amount of throttle to get it going. but I didn't like the way the revs would pick up to around 2.5K and just site there until the car got to 4th and then it would rise and fall. I know it is a small thing, and to be honest, the rest of the car was superb and I really enjoyed it. It never ceased to amaze me how economical it was for the performance it gave. I do very mixed driving and I was getting after 6K miles about 34mpg, it was infact better on a run that my old 245bhp single turbo diesel.
I have the 8 speed auto in my new car and it much more responsive, so I guess it's just a software issue.

I know what you mean, it feels like the torque converter is not locking up fully in 1st gear. Easily remedied by putting it in Sport, where it takes off like a scalded cat!

:-)) yes you are right. They are great cars. I'd happily have another

[mondie]

Started a thread on the A6 BiDi a few weeks and potentially buying one in the next fortnight. Watching available cars on the Audi website and seems to be a good few around with my must have options (sports diff, heated seats, Black line etc) and none seem to be moving. I wonder if there is a slight pause in the market due to the VAG scandal, good time to buy or am I just imaging it. Any thoughts?

[AMDBSTony]

Have had loads of Audis and never had an issue - that said this is the first auto I have had.

Not seen many biturbo's for sale but I have one specific requirement and that is a towbar to tow my car trailer.

I have always bought new and spec'd them to suit me........just had in my head that I would have this one for 2 years, not 6 months!

A lesson in how to take a financial kicking

Edited by AMDBSTony on Monday 5th October 19:17

[therams]

Just for comparison, I have the sq5 with the 313hp bi tdi engine. So the same, just in a heavier car. Over 6000 of mostly motorway driving I'm getting 34.8 according to the trip computer

[zeDuffMan]

What's the long term reliability like on the BiTDI motor? Modern diesels have a running theme of major issues after they've done a few miles, just wondering if anyone had experiences of higher mileages.

[Elysium]

I have an a6 bitdi. Have averaged around 33 mpg over the last 10k miles, which includes a lot of local town driving.

On a longer trip with a bit of motorway it generally does 40-42mpg. I think more could be achieved if you stick to speed limits and take things easy.

OCracking car. There is some auto lag, but as noted above, this can easily be defeated by knocking the gear selector into sport or manual.

[Charlie1986]

A6 - What is it like to drive daily is the A6 Allroad much differnt? I do 15k a year mostly motorway but also drive to St Maxime yearly and Scotland 4-5 times yearly and my current millage on my 2010 320D is catching up on it now (145,000 from new)

SQ5 - are they or can they be used like above and still get out without using a zimmer frame with the sport suspension set up? And is it the same engine?

[Raven Flyer]

Charlie1986 said:

A6 - What is it like to drive daily is the A6 Allroad much differnt? I do 15k a year mostly motorway but also drive to St Maxime yearly and Scotland 4-5 times yearly and my current millage on my 2010 320D is catching up on it now (145,000 from new)

SQ5 - are they or can they be used like above and still get out without using a zimmer frame with the sport suspension set up? And is it the same engine?

The A6 is the perfect motorway cruiser but it also copes with a twisty A road nicely too.

A friend has an SQ5 on order. I'll report back as he has specc'd sports suspension.

[HoHoHo]

I'm floating around the Audi forum whilst thinking about my next car.

Currently driving an F10 M5 which is without doubt the best car I've ever had and I'm nowhere near bored with it but it's on lease and it's 12 months away from change, so 6 months away from a decision on the assumption I buy new.

So either I go for another M5 or move to a different brand for a change and whilst the RS6 is a great car I'm not sure the 320bhp (or whatever it is) A6 wouldn't be one to test drive combined with Audi simply not doing deals on the RS6.

0-60 in 5 seconds is quick enough and I appreciate the diesel has a lovely torque curve that makes the drive more than a little bit swift. I love the looks of the current A6 Avant and it would be a better car with mutley and the kids than the M5 (which I can't use for dog walking etc. at the moment).

Is that TT diesel really as good as is suggested?

[Blue62]

Charlie1986 said:

A6 - What is it like to drive daily is the A6 Allroad much differnt? I do 15k a year mostly motorway but also drive to St Maxime yearly and Scotland 4-5 times yearly and my current millage on my 2010 320D is catching up on it now (145,000 from new)

SQ5 - are they or can they be used like above and still get out without using a zimmer frame with the sport suspension set up? And is it the same engine?

Not quite sure what you mean about the zimmer, but we've had an SQ for just over a year now (wife's daily) and it's all round very good indeed, she reckons it's the best car she's driven, we use it for long trips and it is very comfy, but not in the class of a Range Rover or Disco come to that but it's ok and I have never reached for a zimmer after a journey. I have done a few miles in it and I like the torque and general quality, but as a petrol man (this is to you as well Ho Ho Ho) the fun only lasts so long in terms of engine flexibility and the gearbox can be a little bit hit and miss. I am currently in an RS4 for another year but I'm starting to sit up and notice the Tesla P85D, 4WD, plenty of space, reasonable build, no mpg and will kick a 911 into the long grass, worth a look.

[Charlie1986]

Guys thanks for the feedback.

ill just need to have a closer look and ask nicely for a longer test drive. Just bit worried the SQ5 might be a bit harsh like my current car but that may be the msport suspension