RS6 price discounts

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superlightr

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Monday 7th March 2016
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drgav2005 said:
Ta da! Certainly worth the wait - it's absolutely EPIC biggrincloud9


Fantastic !!! Its a hard 500 odd miles to gently run it in....... Im up to 1300 and giving it some welly !!

Bet you had a great drive back to the Motherland.

superlightr

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Wednesday 9th March 2016
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MSF21 said:
This thread could get expensive !
I looked at an RS6 2 yrs ago but could not justify one at the time, so I could a C63 estate when they were doing those crazy lease deals
Now that my kids are getting bigger (3 under 5) means that we need a bigger car and an RS6 would be perfect

I got a poverty spec C63 on lease, and I remember that for every option you ticked you paid for outright (i.e. MB assigned no value to these options after the 2 yr period)
As I knew I was handing the keys back I felt that was too rich

Through this forum I have got 5 carwow quotes (thanks!). For a poverty spec car I am getting offered £11.5k off, but if I spend £8k on options the saving on increases to £12.5k
So at face value the discounts (in terms of %) are best on base cars
However, are there differences in GFV?
For instance if the £8k options gets you a further £1k saving, and a £3k higher GFV then that becomes more appealing

Any advice is appreciated !
the base car looks good and the discount I got was on all the extras. The thing is that I may or may not keep the car in 2 yrs time but what I do know is that the extras I speced up made the car special for me and every time I drive/look at it go wow. I would not buy that car without those 'extras' as I look for them on every car i buy now. - although e63 amg didnt need a sports exhaust !

I went for black pack, 21 black wheels, tow bar (caravan) sunroof, sports exhaust.


superlightr

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Saturday 26th March 2016
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LA167 said:
I've had a laugh reading this!

I see that most are going to Carwow and getting quotes, ordering etc etc and I see many talking/moaning about the 'poor' residuals after a couple of years. Has nobody stopped and thought for a moment that if you're demanding £12-£15k off of the price of the new model, it's price in a couple of years isn't going to be huge! If everyone is driving the price of brand new cars down, the residual will follow suit!

The PH member purchasing the 997 GTS, did you get a discount? Probably not! Will the car retain fantastic value? Probably! The two figures go hand in hand!

Carwow is a pain in the arse for most main dealers and many dealers who use Carwow are leaving them! You're not a customer to a Carwow dealer, you're just a number. Numbers = volume bonus, the deals themselves generally make a loss.

Personally, if I were buying a car I'd go to my local dealer and buy from them. Sure, I'd negotiate with them and they may not give me the best price but I'd get the best service and have a local point of contact should I have a problem! I'd also be supporting local business!

I am a main dealer Sales Exec myself who'll go out of my way to look after my customers and make sure they're happy, especially those local to me who'll come back and buy car after car from me. They put food on the table for my family and they're the ones who get looked after every time! Do you get that type of service through Carwow? Doubtful......
I understand where your coming from but the problem is that you are selling a product not a service. hence why price for a new car is king. If you were a plumber/painter etc then the service is the most important/quality. A new car is under warrenty so again take it back and get it fixed. why is there a need to pay a dealer more for a product?

superlightr

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Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Welshbeef said:
On those numbers is actually cheaper buying new than a 3year old one - which will no doubt require new discs pads and general servicing plus warranty. £40k down to what £20k by the 6 years of age + those costs > buying new.

As insane as that is it makes financial sense.
Agree it does and I did. Loving the RS6

superlightr

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Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Welshbeef said:
superlightr said:
Welshbeef said:
On those numbers is actually cheaper buying new than a 3year old one - which will no doubt require new discs pads and general servicing plus warranty. £40k down to what £20k by the 6 years of age + those costs > buying new.

As insane as that is it makes financial sense.
Agree it does and I did. Loving the RS6
How does it compare v the E63 AMG S?
The AMG was louder - even with the RS6 sports exhaust but like the pops.

Acceleration, mid range the RS6 feels faster with the Turbos - brutal infact. - I had the AMG 6.3 na which was fast mid range but not brutal as such. Pick up from low speed "feels" about the same pickup speed - fast in both - but with the AMG giving a consistent push and the RS6 a punch low to mid range. Not tried anything to bother the 4wd of the RS6.

Both cars are heavy in the bends, I suppose I preferred the AMG in the bends - a bit more settled perhaps? only done 2k in the RS6 tho. neither are "nimble" compare to a pork or 7 etc but hid their weight well. Brakes are excellent in both. Enjoy the various settings for the AMG and RS6. Im not keen on the dynamic steering of the RS6 setting so keep that to comfort as its very sensitive especially when accelerating hard. On comfort its great the other settings are dynamic. But with any adaptive settings its great to set them up how you like.

The AMG felt big, wide and long. The RS6 feels smaller outside but larger inside (kids have more room in rear in the RS6)

Both very comfortable, both great cars. The AMG would not tow hence why the RS6 as we bought a caravan. Would have been happy with another E AMG but never had an Audi, wanted a quattro love the high tec of the Audi etc nice to try another type of car on the bucket list ! Would recommend both cars tbh.
Like the RS6 looks - very spaceship !

RS6 slightly better fuel econ but you dont get these cars to worry about that side of things.



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superlightr

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Wednesday 30th March 2016
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silentbrown said:
Once you factor out the first few weeks of depreciation (which the discount will handily cover) I think it's not far off linear. You'll lose about 40-45% over three years, regardless of how old the car is. So (for example) 40% of a 70K car is £28K, 40% of a 2-year-old 55K car is £22K. So buying a 2-year old car saves you £6K over the three years, but on the other side, you've got to two years of warranty costs, an extra year of tax, and the issue that loads of important consumables (brakes/tyres/clutch, etc) are part-worn and likely to need replacement sooner.
there is very little in it - certainly 1 yr old cars v new. Factor in the 'nice' feel good factor of a new car and warranty/tyres and all the other bits for getting a new car, then sure it will be cheaper getting a 3 yr old car but its still not a new car.

superlightr

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Friday 1st April 2016
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As you do I was playing around with the settings in my new RS6 and was messing around with the stability control button and holding down the stop/start button. I found that holding both and turning the MMI knob I could access a new performance/power screen where I could select "Standard" or "Performance". I changed it to Performance clearly.

Hopefully a free way to upgrade the RS6 to the RS6 Performance. Will test it out more later on the roads.


superlightr

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Friday 1st April 2016
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There was very little difference in it for a new rs6 v 1yr old facelift rs6.

Its also nice to own a new car - and yes you pay a premium for it. So what? Oranges and Apples.

fek the maths - you can either afford it and willing to spunk your money on a new car or are able to or not able to and dont want to spend your money that way. Makes no ends to me either way. Neither is the right answer. Do whats best for you.

I bought a new 911 Targa long time ago - I was happy to spunk the money on new rather then a 2 yr or 4 yr car. Sure it was cheaper for a used car but I wanted new and could man maths it for me. Again getting used or new is down to each person and how they want to spunk their money. Its just at present a close call for a new RS6 v 1 yrs old RS6 in costs.


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superlightr

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Thursday 13th October 2016
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TS7 said:
Although by no means 'foolproof' the American EPA figures are as near as damnit in the ballpark for what various long term testers seem to get.

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs...

Obviously the car has to be available stateside to be listed, and factored for the differing size of the US Gallon (1.2 USG to the Imp G), so 21 for the RS7 (RS6 unavailable there) becomes 25 for the Imperial Gallon - pretty much what EVO are getting on their long term C7 RS6 Performance over the last ~9000 miles.

The EPA tests are very much real world: hot, cold, urban, freeway etc.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/fe_test_schedules.s...

And no, it isn't fuel economy, or cost, that interests me, just mileage between pump visits!

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does it really matter if it does 400 miles between filling up or 350 miles? both are well into 4-5hrs of driving on the normal UK roads/mways/Aroads and I know I need a nice coffee after 2-3 hrs of driving not much hassle to top her up at the same time is it?

The RS6 for me is getting about 22mpg my E63 amg was about 19 ish. I just fill up when its empty doesn't bother me/factor in how many miles in between filling tbh. It the fun getting wherever that counts. smile