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lord trumpton

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Friday 12th February 2016
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My daily car is a very well cared for ed30. Its done 80k now and is going into Awesome Gti next week for its second cambelt/ water pump change, DSG service and oil and to have new steering arms and track rod ends.

It's feeling a little splashy in the corners and at that age and miles I'm guessing its due a suspension refresh.

I'm 42 and thus don't want to lower it, stiffen it or make into a road racer - just restore it's agility as it's just a daily beater.

So, what typically would you guys recommend I replace - the shocks are not leaking so I assume that they are still good?

What bushes tend to wear?

Thanks in advance

LT




rb5er

11,657 posts

171 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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lord trumpton said:
So, what typically would you guys recommend I replace
The car for something less numb.

andrewparker

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186 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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rb5er said:
The car for something less numb.
FFS, give it a fking rest. Do you get a kick out of trolling the VW forum?

rb5er

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Friday 12th February 2016
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Sorry, didn't realise it was angry fanbois only in here. And no, I just click "whats new" and comment on things I find interesting, boring or anything else I fancy thanks.

andrewparker

7,899 posts

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Friday 12th February 2016
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rb5er said:
Sorry, didn't realise it was angry fanbois only in here. And no, I just click "whats new" and comment on things I find interesting, boring or anything else I fancy thanks.
Yeah, we've heard that excuse before. You're just coming across like a proper dick, and I'm sure you'd think the same of me if I thought it necessary to mention baseball caps and Bonkers compilations on every Subaru thread that came up.

Just stop being a wker.

KryptonKid09

193 posts

120 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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If you're going to do a refresh, you may as well go the whole hog as you'll like just be chasing the problem otherwise.

A couple of tricks you might be able to pull to give a more direct feel is to replace the strut top mount bushes and the front lower arm rear bushes with Audi TT 3.2 versions. These are slightly higher shore and solid respectively. If like my R32 you have 'voided' front lower arm rear bushes, you'll notice a difference without any detriment.

As for what wears out first, probably the strut top mounts and ARB drop link bushes, plus the front lower arm rear bushes if they're voided. I'd expect noise to be present if these are past though. If you're going for a targetted strategy, it's probably worth changing these first.
And just because the dampers aren't leaking, doesn't mean they're not tired.

Without driving the car though, it's difficult to know what to recommend as it may be something very minor.

How old are your tyres out of interest? And what brand are they?

Paul

lord trumpton

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7,320 posts

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Friday 12th February 2016
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rb5er said:
lord trumpton said:
So, what typically would you guys recommend I replace
The car for something less numb.
Yeah thanks for the input bellend smile

Looking at your 'garage' you have hardly owned any fine cars have you? The RB5 is about the only one that's decent - assuming its not rusty.

Edited by lord trumpton on Friday 12th February 10:31

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

219 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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lord trumpton said:
My daily car is a very well cared for ed30. Its done 80k now and is going into Awesome Gti next week for its second cambelt/ water pump change, DSG service and oil and to have new steering arms and track rod ends.

It's feeling a little splashy in the corners and at that age and miles I'm guessing its due a suspension refresh.

I'm 42 and thus don't want to lower it, stiffen it or make into a road racer - just restore it's agility as it's just a daily beater.

So, what typically would you guys recommend I replace - the shocks are not leaking so I assume that they are still good?

What bushes tend to wear?

Thanks in advance

LT
What tyres are on it and how worn are they?

Mine's on 97K and feeling the same. I'm pretty sure it's down to the F1s on the front being down to 2mm smile

You will probably find the tie rods and arms will solve most of the washyness. No point throwing parts at it that aren't required, although having said that, if you were rebuild the chassis with all new OEM bushes, mountings, springs and dampers, it makes a profound difference. Need deep pockets for that though.


Dr G

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241 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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andrewparker said:
rb5er said:
Sorry, didn't realise it was angry fanbois only in here. And no, I just click "whats new" and comment on things I find interesting, boring or anything else I fancy thanks.
Yeah, we've heard that excuse before. You're just coming across like a proper dick, and I'm sure you'd think the same of me if I thought it necessary to mention baseball caps and Bonkers compilations on every Subaru thread that came up.

Just stop being a wker.
Quite, if you've nothing nice to say and all that. Perhaps you could keep it to yourself in future?

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

219 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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Dr G said:
andrewparker said:
rb5er said:
Sorry, didn't realise it was angry fanbois only in here. And no, I just click "whats new" and comment on things I find interesting, boring or anything else I fancy thanks.
Yeah, we've heard that excuse before. You're just coming across like a proper dick, and I'm sure you'd think the same of me if I thought it necessary to mention baseball caps and Bonkers compilations on every Subaru thread that came up.

Just stop being a wker.
Quite, if you've nothing nice to say and all that. Perhaps you could keep it to yourself in future?
Don't rise to it chaps. He fires off the same comments in General Gassing regarding anything VW related. Best to ignore it. He'll get bored of it eventually.

lord trumpton

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SuperchargedVR6 said:
lord trumpton said:
My daily car is a very well cared for ed30. Its done 80k now and is going into Awesome Gti next week for its second cambelt/ water pump change, DSG service and oil and to have new steering arms and track rod ends.

It's feeling a little splashy in the corners and at that age and miles I'm guessing its due a suspension refresh.

I'm 42 and thus don't want to lower it, stiffen it or make into a road racer - just restore it's agility as it's just a daily beater.

So, what typically would you guys recommend I replace - the shocks are not leaking so I assume that they are still good?

What bushes tend to wear?

Thanks in advance

LT
What tyres are on it and how worn are they?

Mine's on 97K and feeling the same. I'm pretty sure it's down to the F1s on the front being down to 2mm smile

You will probably find the tie rods and arms will solve most of the washyness. No point throwing parts at it that aren't required, although having said that, if you were rebuild the chassis with all new OEM bushes, mountings, springs and dampers, it makes a profound difference. Need deep pockets for that though.
New PS3 all round. Last MOT was an advisory with 'slight play in steering arm' so replacing the arms and track rod ends should restore a bit of the precise turn in. I've ordered new Sachs shocks from ECP - with a promo code it was about £180 for all 4. I'll get the top mounts changed whilst they are in there and probably new ARB bushes. I'll get them to inspect the other bushes and replace as necessary.

Thanks for the input chaps.

rb5er

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Friday 12th February 2016
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Personal insults? Really? How juvenile its only a car, (a boring one) no need to take it so personally.

Andy OH

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249 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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rb5er said:
Personal insults? Really? How juvenile its only a car, (a boring one) no need to take it so personally.
It may be a boring car to you so therefore why do you keep commenting on cars that do not interest you. Let's just remind you that this is a VAG sub forum. We could all say a Volvo and a RB5 PPP are boring, which for me they are pretty boring cars but I wouldn't comment on the Volvo or Subaru sub forum saying that. I owned a P1 for a while and heavily modified it as it was a piece of cr@p out of the box.

Why troll sub forums and comment if you have nothing constructive to say.

rb5er

11,657 posts

171 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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And you would be entitled to your wrong opinion just like I am even if you disagree with it. I wouldn't start hurling childish insults.

andrewparker

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186 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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rb5er said:
And you would be entitled to your wrong opinion just like I am even if you disagree with it. I wouldn't start hurling childish insults.
You really are a moron. Your attitude stinks. How sad your life must be to feel compelled to comment on every single thread that has even mere mention of a VW product. You're an irritant, the sort of person that brings forums down.

tomjol

532 posts

116 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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I'll keep an eye out for ED30s on Monday then smile

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

219 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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lord trumpton said:
SuperchargedVR6 said:
lord trumpton said:
My daily car is a very well cared for ed30. Its done 80k now and is going into Awesome Gti next week for its second cambelt/ water pump change, DSG service and oil and to have new steering arms and track rod ends.

It's feeling a little splashy in the corners and at that age and miles I'm guessing its due a suspension refresh.

I'm 42 and thus don't want to lower it, stiffen it or make into a road racer - just restore it's agility as it's just a daily beater.

So, what typically would you guys recommend I replace - the shocks are not leaking so I assume that they are still good?

What bushes tend to wear?

Thanks in advance

LT
What tyres are on it and how worn are they?

Mine's on 97K and feeling the same. I'm pretty sure it's down to the F1s on the front being down to 2mm smile

You will probably find the tie rods and arms will solve most of the washyness. No point throwing parts at it that aren't required, although having said that, if you were rebuild the chassis with all new OEM bushes, mountings, springs and dampers, it makes a profound difference. Need deep pockets for that though.
New PS3 all round. Last MOT was an advisory with 'slight play in steering arm' so replacing the arms and track rod ends should restore a bit of the precise turn in. I've ordered new Sachs shocks from ECP - with a promo code it was about £180 for all 4. I'll get the top mounts changed whilst they are in there and probably new ARB bushes. I'll get them to inspect the other bushes and replace as necessary.

Thanks for the input chaps.
PS3s are pretty good for turn-in and feel. Get the arms done and the dampers, then a nice 4 wheel alignment and it should feel fit again.

Are they SACHs equivalents or the actual genuine SACHs? I know they'll probably state they're for a Golf GTI, but the quality (i.e life span) won't be the same.

Oh and I would recommend 8P Audi S3 console bushes. The original voided ones are rubbish.


Edited by SuperchargedVR6 on Friday 12th February 15:16

si_xsi

1,189 posts

194 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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rb5er said:
Sorry, didn't realise it was angry fanbois only in here. And no, I just click "whats new" and comment on things I find interesting, boring or anything else I fancy thanks.
Ahh that old chesnut, I wouldn't normally get involved with someone so special, but I've seen this response posted by you so many times, I can't resist. Did you accidently not realise that Edition 30 might be VW or Golf related... Do us all a favour, stop wasting everyones time with your repetitive b0llocks. Complete bellendery at its finest.

OP, better of just a general re-bush, but certainly anti-roll bar drop links. Bump stops often split too on these.

SuperchargedVR6

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219 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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I reckon his ancient RB5 got spanked by a Golf R shopping cart and the resentment is starting to come out on here. There's a reason people behave the way they do smile

ManOpener

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168 months

Friday 12th February 2016
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rb5er, your claims that it's just you clicking "what's new" don't really ring true, your posting history is pretty telling. It looks to me like you enjoy actively seek out threads about VW Group products wherever they may be to a facetious, flippant arse in. It's a crap excuse and you should stop using it.

As for upgrades for a well-cared for Mk5 platform car in the suspension department, I'm a big fan of Koni FSD shocks as a replacement for the OEM ones. They're very pliant on the road but also firm things up nicely. I'd never want them for track work or anything like that, but personally I think they're really good as road shocks and they work well with OEM springs.

The rest is the usual- bushes (I'd probably just go OEM for a road-driver because most of the uprated ones do increase NVH a fair bit) and I'd probably consider getting one of the anti-lift kits fitted as they do make quite a difference.

-E

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