The Amazing PH Passat Alltrack Thread

The Amazing PH Passat Alltrack Thread

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Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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jingars said:
Sheepshanks said:
One thing not mentioned is the car in the video seems to have push-button start, therefore must have keyless entry - that's not standard.
My Passat R-Line (standard spec - no options ordered) has push-button start, but with a standard three button "click to lock/unlock" key fob.
How does that work? Where do you put the key? Is it like a BMW, or do you have to put the key in the old fashioned place yet still press the button to start? Silly if the latter.

Sheepshanks

32,807 posts

120 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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jingars said:
My Passat R-Line (standard spec - no options ordered) has push-button start, but with a standard three button "click to lock/unlock" key fob.
Ah - fair enough. So it's sort of keyless go, rather than keyless entry.

I thought the two things went together. The very last of old model Tiguan's got push button start and no-one seemed sure if the doors would be keyless too, but they are.


ETA: You're not talking about the thing where you push the key-fob in to start, are you? If you've got a separate button on the console then I'd have expected the car to have "keyless" (fobless makes more sense) entry. Have you ever tried? It's not that obvious - indeed some people find it tricky to use.

Maybe VW changed it to stop former BMW drivers getting confused. smile

Edited by Sheepshanks on Thursday 5th May 15:51

jingars

1,095 posts

241 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Key "anywhere about your person" works - blip the car open with the key from a few feet away, put key in pocket, jump in and press the start button with foot on the footbrake.

Sheepshanks

32,807 posts

120 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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jingars said:
Key "anywhere about your person" works - blip the car open with the key from a few feet away, put key in pocket, jump in and press the start button with foot on the footbrake.
Have a look at this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwMvPHQAaDA

Oldboydelly

48 posts

97 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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My car is apparently ten days from the dealer (Crewe), can't wait get it.

Can anyone confirm if it has front heated seats? Reason I ask is the GT spec has them and I was under the impression that Alltrack was identical in spec with a few offroady additions. Also a few reviews mention them when talking about the standard comfort seats.

jingars

1,095 posts

241 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
Have just been out to the car and sadly it doesn't work for me - and no "dimple" on the handle, either.

Sheepshanks

32,807 posts

120 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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jingars said:
Have just been out to the car and sadly it doesn't work for me - and no "dimple" on the handle, either.
How strange. The options list makes a feature of push button start being part of the keyless entry option.

Is your car very recent? The "press and drive key", where you push the fob into the ignition switch to start the car, is still shown on the website.

jingars

1,095 posts

241 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Had a VW UK loan Passat estate 150 Business whilst waiting for mine to be built and shipped, which had the same key system; click to access and press to start. Picked this R-Line up the week before Christmas with 8 miles on the clock.

Sheepshanks

32,807 posts

120 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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jingars said:
Had a VW UK loan Passat estate 150 Business whilst waiting for mine to be built and shipped, which had the same key system; click to access and press to start. Picked this R-Line up the week before Christmas with 8 miles on the clock.
Seems they changed some time ago from "push key-fob in slot to start" to simply "push button to start". Didn't know that - sorry for the bum steer.

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
jingars said:
Had a VW UK loan Passat estate 150 Business whilst waiting for mine to be built and shipped, which had the same key system; click to access and press to start. Picked this R-Line up the week before Christmas with 8 miles on the clock.
Seems they changed some time ago from "push key-fob in slot to start" to simply "push button to start". Didn't know that - sorry for the bum steer.
I preferred the good old days when they gave you a convenient place to slot the key so you didn't lose it.

Sheepshanks

32,807 posts

120 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Emeye said:
I preferred the good old days when they gave you a convenient place to slot the key so you didn't lose it.
It does seem particularly daft to have push button start without keyless entry as you've got to get the keys out to open the car, then put them somewhere. Hence my surprise.

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Sheepshanks said:
Emeye said:
I preferred the good old days when they gave you a convenient place to slot the key so you didn't lose it.
It does seem particularly daft to have push button start without keyless entry as you've got to get the keys out to open the car, then put them somewhere. Hence my surprise.
Old skool: Press key fob to open car. Get in car. Put the key in the lock and turn to start. Drive to destination. Turn key and take out. Get out of car. Press key fob to lock.

Current 2007 BMW: Press key fob to open car. Get in car. Push the key fob in the slot, then press button to start. Drive to destination.Try to take key out. Key doesn't come out. Whoops. Press button to stop. Take key fob out. Get out of car. Press key fob to lock.

New Passat: Press key fob to open car. Get in car. Put the key somewhere it isn't going to be flying around the cabin or get in the way. Press button to start. Drive to destination. Press button to stop. Get out of car. Get back into car to find key. Look for key. Get out of car. Press button to lock car.

Not really seeing the improvement here. biggrin

soupdragon1

4,069 posts

98 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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Just press the unlock button without taking key out of your pocket.

Emeye

9,773 posts

224 months

Thursday 5th May 2016
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soupdragon1 said:
Just press the unlock button without taking key out of your pocket.
Getting into a bit too much detail here, but...

Thing is, my key/fob will be in a bunch of a load of other keys which would be a bit uncomfortable in my pocket sat in the car. I like somewhere for it to dangle. Oo-er missus.

I'm sure I will cope. biggrin

Eddie Twadds

138 posts

100 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Anyone got any progress reports on theirs yet? Mine is sat at the docks in ze Germany awaiting loading. biggrin

tjk123

563 posts

231 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Has anyone gone for GAP insurance on one of these? Do you need it? How much cover? Struggling to get my head around it, probably because I've never put a new car on finance before.

Oldboydelly

48 posts

97 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Eddie Twadds said:
Anyone got any progress reports on theirs yet? Mine is sat at the docks in ze Germany awaiting loading. biggrin
Mine has made about "3 weeks" progress in 5 days. It's now on the way to the dealer's. I expect I'll have it delivered or collect it next weekend.

MadaCup

130 posts

119 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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tjk123 said:
Has anyone gone for GAP insurance on one of these? Do you need it? How much cover? Struggling to get my head around it, probably because I've never put a new car on finance before.
Yes I sorted mine out today for collection tomorrow. Cheapest I could find was motorpocket at £63 for 10k of GAP cover.

MadaCup

130 posts

119 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Picked mine up today, thought there might be some interested in some pictures.

Very impressed with the car, the infotainment and integration of the sat nav is fantastic. Not sure if the sat nav compares to a tom tom or google maps via my phone though. The DSG box is very smooth, not sure why you would ever need the paddles or sequential shift via the stick though. I found the box is a bit slow when pulling away from junctions in normal mode and the stop/start is very aggressive switching the engine off whenever you stop. This is my first auto box and I've had start/stop on other cars but with a manual instead.

Fantastic value for money, not sure what I'll do when the 2 years are up! Happy to answer any questions.

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hornetrider

Original Poster:

63,161 posts

206 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Is that Urano? Looks very dark in those pics. Maybe it's one of those colours that look different in different lights?