The Amazing PH Passat Alltrack Thread

[Freedomfighter]

Anyone know the best current leases on these? I'd love one but missed he first round of cracking deals. Any pointers much appreciated. Not bothered if it's manual or auto...

[Soton Thunder]

Freedomfighter said:

Anyone know the best current leases on these? I'd love one but missed he first round of cracking deals. Any pointers much appreciated. Not bothered if it's manual or auto...

Current best prices for the manual on a 3 + 23 on personal lease seem to be around £420 per month. That's with 10k miles pa not the 5k that we got.


http://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing/deals/volkswage...

[Emeye]

Soton Thunder said:

Freedomfighter said:

Anyone know the best current leases on these? I'd love one but missed he first round of cracking deals. Any pointers much appreciated. Not bothered if it's manual or auto...

Current best prices for the manual on a 3 + 23 on personal lease seem to be around £420 per month. That's with 10k miles pa not the 5k that we got.


http://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing/deals/volkswage...

Put our deals somewhat into perspective. My deal is 3+23 at £130 for the 190 dsg Alltrack, for 5k mile at 7.2p excess, that works out at another £720, or approx. £160 per month if I do 10k miles!

Edited by Emeye on Saturday 10th September 08:54

[hornetrider]

Cripes. FWIW there's a chap in the last few pages of the general lease thread who picked up a 150bhp Passat GT Estate for little over 200/m, no doubt a good alternative.

[Sheepshanks]

Emeye said:

Soton Thunder said:

Freedomfighter said:

Anyone know the best current leases on these? I'd love one but missed he first round of cracking deals. Any pointers much appreciated. Not bothered if it's manual or auto...

Current best prices for the manual on a 3 + 23 on personal lease seem to be around £420 per month. That's with 10k miles pa not the 5k that we got.


http://www.whatcar.com/car-leasing/deals/volkswage...

Put our deals somewhat into perspective. My deal is 3+23 at £130 for the 190 dsg Alltrack, at 7.2p excess, that works out at another £720, or approx. £160 per month!

I might be missing something here, but what does the £160 relate to? Surely the current deals are getting towards £300/mth dearer?

[hornetrider]

I think 160 is what his (ours) cost a month if you level up the mileage allowance. Our was 130/m based on 6k.

[Emeye]

hornetrider said:

I think 160 is what his (ours) cost a month if you level up the mileage allowance. Our was 130/m based on 6k.

Yes - though mine was only 5k miles. No admin fee though. I guess the £720 should be spread through 26 rather than 24. But you get the idea.

[Sheepshanks]

Emeye said:

hornetrider said:

I think 160 is what his (ours) cost a month if you level up the mileage allowance. Our was 130/m based on 6k.

Yes - though mine was only 5k miles. No admin fee though. I guess the £720 should be spread through 26 rather than 24. But you get the idea.

Ah, OK. It might have helped if you'd said "amortised".

[Emeye]

Sheepshanks said:

Emeye said:

hornetrider said:

I think 160 is what his (ours) cost a month if you level up the mileage allowance. Our was 130/m based on 6k.

Yes - though mine was only 5k miles. No admin fee though. I guess the £720 should be spread through 26 rather than 24. But you get the idea.

Ah, OK. It might have helped if you'd said "amortised".

hahaha - just arguing about that over on the Best lease thread!

[Sheepshanks]

Emeye said:

hahaha - just arguing about that over on the Best lease thread!

[Emeye]

I updated my post as it really was not clear. Being a muppet I didn't mention how many miles.

It really is bargainbargetastic - I wonder who would lease one at the proper price?

[bigfish]

hornetrider said:

Emeye said:

Apparently, as well as the Adblue you will need to buy an adaptor if you are going to fill it yourself. Friend with an Adblue Touran said the adaptor was £12.

I have seen signs for Adblue advertised at Shell petrol stations, but not sure if this is some kind of pump or just bottles of the stuff.

I thought Adblue was included FoC for Merc for so long if you had it serviced with them - not sure what the score is for VW.

ETA some details here: http://www.volkswagen.co.uk/technology/diesel/adbl...

Edited by Emeye on Friday 19th August 15:55

Thanks for the link. At £1.89/l 20l comes out at £38. VW are expensive, who knew eh?! Think I'll grab some from the bay of E for half the price.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AdBlue-20L-FREE-Pouring-...

Perfect, mine is beeping at me so need to get some !

[Emeye]

So has anyone managed to fill up with Adblue at a petrol station using the truck pumps?

Some posts say it is possible, others I've read say you need an adaptor and others that the car needs a magnet in it, or something.

[MartinQ]

Emeye said:

So has anyone managed to fill up with Adblue at a petrol station using the truck pumps?

Some posts say it is possible, others I've read say you need an adaptor and others that the car needs a magnet in it, or something.

I did it at the BP HGV forecourt at Trowell services on the M1. No adaptors needed - exactly like filling with fuel, except a slightly smaller nozzle. 85ppl IIRC.

[Colonial]

Ok, I'm actually looking at one of these at the moment.

I'm in Australia so the only model we get is the 140kw diesel with DSG (190bhp)

Leaving aside the cracking lease deal, how would you say it compares to the VW Golf Alltrack with the 1.8turbo petrol engine (once again, only model here) and the Skoda Octavia Scout with the same engine?

It's only a small amount more expensive that the Golf and a tiny bit more than the Skoda.

[hornetrider]

Is the Passat not a sector 'up' from the Octavia, as well as the Golf? Boot space is huge, and rear legroom too.

[blueg33]

hornetrider said:

Is the Passat not a sector 'up' from the Octavia, as well as the Golf? Boot space is huge, and rear legroom too.

Octavia Scout has a bigger boot and a bit more headroom but Passat is a larger car, the extra size seems to be mainly in width, legroom is similar in both.

Our new Scout arrives next Wednesday. We looked at Passat Alltrack, Golf Alltrack, A4 Allroad, Leon Xperience, Volvo XC60 etc

Skoda was the best allround package without being too huge. Passat was lovely, but felt as big as my A6 and we know that is a pain to park in multistorey's etc. Skoda won. Skoda worked out about £1k cheaper than Passat for similar spec and £2k cheaper than Golf. Although we struck a great deal as a buyer not a leaser and are paying about £9k under list.

[Colonial]

I'm looking at demos in Australia. They are all between 39 and 48k so very much based on the car.

2 people. 1 about to be 2 spoilt greyhounds. Do trail running and am often in rural areas for work.

I'm leaning towards the Octavia personally.

[balnazzar]

Greetings pals, my name is Andrea and I'm writing from Italy.

I'm in the process of buying a passat estate, and had the occasion to test drive two diesel passats, a 150hp fwd, and an alltrack 190. Both of them dsg (the 190 plain estate was not available to test).
Reading this thread I found the alltrack to be much more widespread in the UK than in my country, so here I am!

Now, I like the alltrack (both interior and exterior) over the plain estate, but as a matter of fact, the 150hp engine seemed to be much more responsive.
I found it strange, so I googled a bit and my sensations are confirmed, since it seems the 4motion system sucks indeed a lot of power (worsening both the performance and the mileage). Examples:

150hp 2wd: https://youtu.be/zn9D8Crnw-0?t=29
190hp 2wd: https://youtu.be/RWBJlsMr_i0?t=8
190hp, alltrack: https://youtu.be/s_vrz0vgMQg?t=221

(links pasted at the proper time)

As you may see, when it comes to acceleration, the 190 fwd does *a lot* better than the alltrack: two seconds on 0-60 mph, which means something like 25% better.

I was wondering if someone here did the same type of measurement with his alltrack, and can confirm 9.3 seconds for 0-60 mph.

Also, I'm interested in your opinion about why the hell a car which is supposed to function like a fwd on dry road, happens to perform so bad with respect to the real fwd.. :-/

Last but not least, does anyone own the 240hp version and can report something about the true mileage?

Thanks a lot, and sorry for my bad english.

[Colonial]

Going for a VRS because it's just that much better and more fun and I don't really need 4WD