The Golf R lease thread
Discussion
rllmuk said:
I pick mine up Monday. I assume those 23/5 build week people didn't get the 2017 spec right?
Out of interest, what car's have people come from in to these? Just want to understand the 'fast' context.
I generally go off 30-70 times for real world "fast" checks.Out of interest, what car's have people come from in to these? Just want to understand the 'fast' context.
some Autocar timings...
c63 AMG - 3.6s
BMW M3 - 3.7s
Audi RS4 - 3.9s
Golf R - 4.3s
Depends what you are used to but most people will say "that's fast".
rllmuk said:
I pick mine up Monday. I assume those 23/5 build week people didn't get the 2017 spec right?
Out of interest, what car's have people come from in to these? Just want to understand the 'fast' context.
First post and still waiting to take delivery of mine, had the 5b text yesterday.Out of interest, what car's have people come from in to these? Just want to understand the 'fast' context.
Currently have an A6 177 TDI and Lupo GTI so expecting this to feel a lot quicker. But have owned a 5 second MK1 golf before which was scary so the safety of the R will be welcomed
BigBootyR said:
Yes, this. Use the display to show oil temperature and then wait for it to register a good temp ( I wait until 100) which is about ten minutes driving at moderate speed. Not giving mine too much stress at the moment though, will give it a bit more of a thrash when I hit 1000 miles.
Certainly not sticking to 4-5000 rpm though for 1500 or so miles.
Warm it up and let it experience all of the range, just don't let it sit at a constant level for long and don't forget to let it idle for a while when you have given it some stick, best to drive calmly for the last few miles before you park up.
Stopping a hot turbo car regularly will definitely kill your turbo sooner rather than later
This has been debated to death on PH and the general view has been that this may have been right 15-20 years ago but not in a modern engine.Certainly not sticking to 4-5000 rpm though for 1500 or so miles.
Warm it up and let it experience all of the range, just don't let it sit at a constant level for long and don't forget to let it idle for a while when you have given it some stick, best to drive calmly for the last few miles before you park up.
Stopping a hot turbo car regularly will definitely kill your turbo sooner rather than later
Vaud said:
This has been debated to death on PH and the general view has been that this may have been right 15-20 years ago but not in a modern engine.
Turbo cooling or running in? My previous car, BMW M135, had a modern twin scroll turbo 3.0 petrol and the advice from BMW techs and some knowledgeable owners was always to allow the engine and turbo to cool and relax before shutting down, not sure about the VAG stuff, but it may well have some additional protection on a hot shutdown?
I will allow mine to rest a bit before I park up and shut down, as it was a habit I had gotten into with the 135 - can't do it any harm and I would rather not be without it for weeks while they source a new turbo and have an awkward conversation with me about cooking their nice turbo
BigBootyR said:
Turbo cooling or running in?
My previous car, BMW M135, had a modern twin scroll turbo 3.0 petrol and the advice from BMW techs and some knowledgeable owners was always to allow the engine and turbo to cool and relax before shutting down, not sure about the VAG stuff, but it may well have some additional protection on a hot shutdown?
I will allow mine to rest a bit before I park up and shut down, as it was a habit I had gotten into with the 135 - can't do it any harm and I would rather not be without it for weeks while they source a new turbo and have an awkward conversation with me about cooking their nice turbo
Turbo cooling. As I understand it all modern motors have protection built in. There is no "error" that a driver can make.My previous car, BMW M135, had a modern twin scroll turbo 3.0 petrol and the advice from BMW techs and some knowledgeable owners was always to allow the engine and turbo to cool and relax before shutting down, not sure about the VAG stuff, but it may well have some additional protection on a hot shutdown?
I will allow mine to rest a bit before I park up and shut down, as it was a habit I had gotten into with the 135 - can't do it any harm and I would rather not be without it for weeks while they source a new turbo and have an awkward conversation with me about cooking their nice turbo
Vaud said:
Turbo cooling. As I understand it all modern motors have protection built in. There is no "error" that a driver can make.
The R does ping and hiss for a while after shutdown and then a couple of minutes later it did make some mechanical noises like a valve or pump shutting down, wonder what all that is? BigBootyR said:
ashleyman said:
Warm the car up so it's at the correct temperature (80+) and then do whatever you like. So long as it's heated up properly you shouldn't experience any issues!
Yes, this. Use the display to show oil temperature and then wait for it to register a good temp ( I wait until 100) which is about ten minutes driving at moderate speed. Not giving mine too much stress at the moment though, will give it a bit more of a thrash when I hit 1000 miles.Certainly not sticking to 4-5000 rpm though for 1500 or so miles.
Warm it up and let it experience all of the range, just don't let it sit at a constant level for long and don't forget to let it idle for a while when you have given it some stick, best to drive calmly for the last few miles before you park up.
Stopping a hot turbo car regularly will definitely kill your turbo sooner rather than later
TomEP said:
Am I missing something here? You don't own the car, who gives a flying f**k about warming it up before thrashing it? One of best things about contract hiring, drive it like stole it
Ha, I imagined you saying that like Borat 
I appreciate quality engineering and I like to treat these things with a bit of respect - mine will get warmed up and given a light bit of abuse when it gets to operating temperature.
In a thousand or so miles I will give it a bit more - but always when warm.
Do what you like with your one - they are quality bits of kit and I am sure they can cope with a bit of abuse from the "wrong'uns"
I'm 12 months in to my lease, Red Manual 5dr no options...
1. It's the best car I've ever owned by a long way
2. The kids hate the piped noise and the lateral g at roundabouts
3. I've only managed 7k miles but every one has made me smile
4. The high gloss dash is a b
h to keep clean
5. Bluetooth voice commands from google maps on my phone (no sat nav) are temperamental
6. I wish I'd had the dsg
7. I need to rotate the tyres
I am lucky to still have it tbh, early May bank holiday took the r to visit family. When we arrived home my son left the rear door wide open on the stoppers and for some reason (distracted) I clearly didn't lock it (the alarm would have sounded). I went out to work at 6:30 on Tuesday morning to find the door wide open. Luckily the only consequence was condensation, it was also the one night that week it didn't rain. The benefits of living at the end of a cul-de-sac with no pedestrian access through. I bought a lottery ticket Tuesday but clearly I'd shot my bolt on the luck side...
1. It's the best car I've ever owned by a long way
2. The kids hate the piped noise and the lateral g at roundabouts
3. I've only managed 7k miles but every one has made me smile
4. The high gloss dash is a b
h to keep clean5. Bluetooth voice commands from google maps on my phone (no sat nav) are temperamental
6. I wish I'd had the dsg
7. I need to rotate the tyres
I am lucky to still have it tbh, early May bank holiday took the r to visit family. When we arrived home my son left the rear door wide open on the stoppers and for some reason (distracted) I clearly didn't lock it (the alarm would have sounded). I went out to work at 6:30 on Tuesday morning to find the door wide open. Luckily the only consequence was condensation, it was also the one night that week it didn't rain. The benefits of living at the end of a cul-de-sac with no pedestrian access through. I bought a lottery ticket Tuesday but clearly I'd shot my bolt on the luck side...
born2bslow said:
I'm 12 months in to my lease, Red Manual 5dr no options...
1. It's the best car I've ever owned by a long way
2. The kids hate the piped noise and the lateral g at roundabouts
3. I've only managed 7k miles but every one has made me smile
4. The high gloss dash is a bh to keep clean
5. Bluetooth voice commands from google maps on my phone (no sat nav) are temperamental
6. I wish I'd had the dsg
7. I need to rotate the tyres
I am lucky to still have it tbh, early May bank holiday took the r to visit family. When we arrived home my son left the rear door wide open on the stoppers and for some reason (distracted) I clearly didn't lock it (the alarm would have sounded). I went out to work at 6:30 on Tuesday morning to find the door wide open. Luckily the only consequence was condensation, it was also the one night that week it didn't rain. The benefits of living at the end of a cul-de-sac with no pedestrian access through. I bought a lottery ticket Tuesday but clearly I'd shot my bolt on the luck side...
I am only a few hundred miles in, but I agree, it could well be the best I have had so far.1. It's the best car I've ever owned by a long way
2. The kids hate the piped noise and the lateral g at roundabouts
3. I've only managed 7k miles but every one has made me smile
4. The high gloss dash is a b
h to keep clean5. Bluetooth voice commands from google maps on my phone (no sat nav) are temperamental
6. I wish I'd had the dsg
7. I need to rotate the tyres
I am lucky to still have it tbh, early May bank holiday took the r to visit family. When we arrived home my son left the rear door wide open on the stoppers and for some reason (distracted) I clearly didn't lock it (the alarm would have sounded). I went out to work at 6:30 on Tuesday morning to find the door wide open. Luckily the only consequence was condensation, it was also the one night that week it didn't rain. The benefits of living at the end of a cul-de-sac with no pedestrian access through. I bought a lottery ticket Tuesday but clearly I'd shot my bolt on the luck side...
I have left a previous car unlocked on the drive before too - wallet on show to add to the attraction.
Great cars and the cheap lease deals are far too good to miss.
Patch1875 said:
Tempted to upgrade my GTi to the R are they still getting stolen a lot? Someone trying to get the keys from inside the house would be a concern.
Probably just about as much as any nice car that's got a bit of bling about it, or is popular in Africa. Crooks don't just steal R's.... Anything of high value can be a target. If that worries you, best off with a golf 1.4tsi. Marcus_a said:
Patch1875 said:
Tempted to upgrade my GTi to the R are they still getting stolen a lot? Someone trying to get the keys from inside the house would be a concern.
Probably just about as much as any nice car that's got a bit of bling about it, or is popular in Africa. Crooks don't just steal R's.... Anything of high value can be a target. If that worries you, best off with a golf 1.4tsi. auroxi said:
I haven't spent too much time with mine yet (not even at 200 miles) but how are you guys viewing the oil temp?
On the right hand side of the steering wheel, there's the silver buttons, click left or right to get to driving data, then once on driving data, use the up or down arrows on the same side to select oil temperature.There's a digital readout of the speed and some other stuff too. HTH
TomEP said:
Marcus_a said:
Patch1875 said:
Tempted to upgrade my GTi to the R are they still getting stolen a lot? Someone trying to get the keys from inside the house would be a concern.
Probably just about as much as any nice car that's got a bit of bling about it, or is popular in Africa. Crooks don't just steal R's.... Anything of high value can be a target. If that worries you, best off with a golf 1.4tsi. Wouldn't stop me getting one I think just asking as they it's seemed a lot we're being taken but not heard of one for a while.
Vaud said:
This has been debated to death on PH and the general view has been that this may have been right 15-20 years ago but not in a modern engine.
Debated to death by how many powertrain engineers? 
Appreciate a modern engine isn't an ancient piece of crap running on mineral oil with huge tolerances but there is still value in taking it easy for the first 1k km as described in the book. Sure, some of it is the OEM trying to reduce their warranty bill (understandably), but it's not all voodoo. You're not just bedding in the rings, it's the entire powertrain, transmission n'all.
Ultimately mixed workload, lots of heat cycles and gradually increasing engine speeds in the first 1k is ideal.
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