The S5 lease thread

[JetskiJezz]

I have been going through the same for process with regards to potential delays. We could of course be worrying for nothing, it may well be that the cars are delivered within the timeframe promised.
Having now sat in the new model A5 coupe and sportback as well as the S4 I have come to the conclusion that there is anything else in terms of lease deals out there that I would want instead. So happy to stick with it for now as long as the delay isn't too drastic. Even then I might be tempted just to leave the order in place and get something as to play around with/use whilst waiting.
I'm lucky that my current lease ( that expired last week) has an informal extension option allowing me to simply keep the car almost as long as I need and continue paying slightly increased monthly payment. If the delay for the S5 is projected to be many months then I would be tempted to return my lease car and buy something interesting with minimal depreciation for six months ( perhaps a boxer or 911).

I put a call into Fleetsauce on Friday last week, specifically asking about potential delays. The only reply I had so far is that they are waiting for the dealer to come back with an answer.

I am really trying to put this all to the back of my mind and sort of forget about it, but this thread is addictive.

[Setest]

Question for you guys, I'm being offered one of these deals at similar rates, but officially with the +£750 VED increase on top, do you guys still consider that good value? £12127 incl fee, will you guys go with it if you are asked for an extra £750 over the term?

Nothing else that really interests me, and with such long lead times seems like this may be the last good deal for a while...

[TomScrut]

Setest said:

Question for you guys, I'm being offered one of these deals at similar rates, but officially with the +£750 VED increase on top, do you guys still consider that good value? £12127 incl fee, will you guys go with it if you are asked for an extra £750 over the term?

Nothing else that really interests me, and with such long lead times seems like this may be the last good deal for a while...

I don't think you will get anything like it for similar money, some would say the lease deal isn't that great being a 24% deal (as opposed to sub 20%) but how many times do you get a brand new model being offered at a competitive rate that is something you would call desirable? And it's unfair to compare a car with a 3l petrol engine and high RRP with something that has a frugal engine and a low RRP (which is what the percentage method does) as the thirsty expensive car will depreciate more proportionately.

In case any of you are interested, I put some figures into the Audi PCP calculator the other day to see how it would compare if I had bought one for £42k ish (which carwow tells me is possible), and it was still (rough figures) £500 quid a month with £1500 down (I put £6500 deposit into the calculator assuming £5000 discount, although I think I may have over egged that as the PCP calculator accounts for deposit contribution which Carwow also remove from the price to make the deal look better) with a final value of around £30.5k, which is similar in outcome to the lease if you take the £11200 off the £42k discounted price, and you would have to pay £500 odd tax in the second year if you owned it. One could argue I will have some equity in the car afterwards but it would be costing £13000+£500 tax for the PCP vs £11200 for the lease so one would be looking at selling the car for circa £33k for it to be worthwhile after 2 years and 20000 miles. For reference my B8 S4 lost £10k in 18 months and 20000 miles back in 2010, and it was £36k new post discount.

Edited by TomScrut on Thursday 19th January 08:45

[AlwynMike]

For those of you that need/want to cancel their order, I'm sure that there are many lurkers on this thread (like myself) that would be happy to take over the order.

[simonbamg]

Driving me slightly mad as well, my current car has just been booked in to go back on 25th march so I really need my sportback by then although it looks unlikely at the moment, got a black with red leather, VC, reversing camera, folding mirrors, flat bottom wheel and privacy glass coming so may have to unload it if it gets confirmed much after that... £3000 + £400 pm

[Ridders71]

Hi all, first time poster here, go easy on me!

This is a great forum and very informative, great to see so many like minded people who love their cars, and love getting a good deal!

I have leased my previous two cars ( current car is BMW 330d GT), and currently costing up both lease and PCP, lease looking slightly more favorable at the minute, and local Audi dealer doesn't seem interested in selling me a new car!!

Opting for the practicality of the Sportback, likely options are Navarra Blue, light and vision pack and flat bottomed steering wheel. I have a lease quote of £2923 + 35 x £487, how does that compare with other offers?

Don't want to worry people but when I asked the lease company about lead times, they stated all orders were going on to a waiting list as Audi UK had written to them advisong that there could be delays on both S4 and S5 models.


Best carwow offer is 14.2% discount if taken on finance, currently trying to get local dealer to beat. What do you think is possible?

I am undecided on the adaptive dampers option, leaning towards adding it in as comfort on longer family journeys are important - anyone tried with and without, does it make much difference?

I test drove a coupe at the weekend and was blown away, what a car, couldn't stop smiling and now very keen to get my order in! I will put up a couple of pictures of it when I figure out how.

[TomScrut]

Ridders71 said:

Hi all, first time poster here, go easy on me!

This is a great forum and very informative, great to see so many like minded people who love their cars, and love getting a good deal!

I have leased my previous two cars ( current car is BMW 330d GT), and currently costing up both lease and PCP, lease looking slightly more favorable at the minute, and local Audi dealer doesn't seem interested in selling me a new car!!

Opting for the practicality of the Sportback, likely options are Navarra Blue, light and vision pack and flat bottomed steering wheel. I have a lease quote of £2923 + 35 x £487, how does that compare with other offers?

Don't want to worry people but when I asked the lease company about lead times, they stated all orders were going on to a waiting list as Audi UK had written to them advisong that there could be delays on both S4 and S5 models.


Best carwow offer is 14.2% discount if taken on finance, currently trying to get local dealer to beat. What do you think is possible?

I am undecided on the adaptive dampers option, leaning towards adding it in as comfort on longer family journeys are important - anyone tried with and without, does it make much difference?

I test drove a coupe at the weekend and was blown away, what a car, couldn't stop smiling and now very keen to get my order in! I will put up a couple of pictures of it when I figure out how.

The best deals on the S5 were on 2 year 10kpa contracts, but I think that the quote you have got looks on the dear side to be honest. I have worked out if I wanted to change mine to metallic/pearl paint, light and vision and flat bottomed wheel it would be circa £488 on a 3+23.

As for the discount levels available that 14 odd percent is better than what carwow did for me a while ago, but for approx. numbers I came up with see my post about a page back on how I thought PCP would compare, but the extra discount may swing it in the favour of PCP especially if that's the best deal you can get on lease.

[Ridders71]

Thanks Tom, I will do some more shopping around. Not finding many good 24 month deals at the moment

A couple of pics from my test drive at the weekend. The Navarra Blue looks better in the flesh than I had thought it would, I really like it, though as you can see a short drive in these conditions and it looks filthy quickly!

[TomScrut]

Ridders71 said:

Thanks Tom, I will do some more shopping around. Not finding many good 24 month deals at the moment

A couple of pics from my test drive at the weekend. The Navarra Blue looks better in the flesh than I had thought it would, I really like it, though as you can see a short drive in these conditions and it looks filthy quickly!

Your best chance of a good deal is to piggy back off somebody who wants to cancel, or getting a cancelled order.

[Electronicpants]

Not great news from my broker today.

After trying my best to resist, ignore this thread, not log onto "my Audi" and ignore all the talk of engine shortages/VED increases and July delivery's, I failed dramatically on all of them.

Called (caved in) a couple of days ago, and the response to my build date being 10th April and the VED effect is that Audi have mistakenly taken too many orders for the UK S5, this has pushed delivery dates to, where they are. (So no promise that they'll dramatically bounce back)

Also what's to be done with the additional VED when these cars are registered after April 1st is still up in the air, Audi, and therefore my broker are awaiting a decision from "The head of Audi UK" as they are aware it's their fault they have taken on too many orders, but no decision has been made yet, this is a UK wide issue, I was told.

So it may be that some of you that have it guaranteed, the broker/dealer has just decided they'll write off the 750 if it happens, or whatever, I'm not sure, but it appears Audi have messed up a bit.

Although, this may be all crap and my broker might just be eyeing up an additional 750 from me!

[TomScrut]

Electronicpants said:

Not great news from my broker today.

After trying my best to resist, ignore this thread, not log onto "my Audi" and ignore all the talk of engine shortages/VED increases and July delivery's, I failed dramatically on all of them.

Called (caved in) a couple of days ago, and the response to my build date being 10th April and the VED effect is that Audi have mistakenly taken too many orders for the UK S5, this has pushed delivery dates to, where they are. (So no promise that they'll dramatically bounce back)

Also what's to be done with the additional VED when these cars are registered after April 1st is still up in the air, Audi, and therefore my broker are awaiting a decision from "The head of Audi UK" as they are aware it's their fault they have taken on too many orders, but no decision has been made yet, this is a UK wide issue, I was told.

So it may be that some of you that have it guaranteed, the broker/dealer has just decided they'll write off the 750 if it happens, or whatever, I'm not sure, but it appears Audi have messed up a bit.

Although, this may be all crap and my broker might just be eyeing up an additional 750 from me!

So I suppose the big question is if people do want to cancel will they willingly let them cancel as it's kind of doing them a favour?

[Electronicpants]

TomScrut said:

Electronicpants said:

Not great news from my broker today.

After trying my best to resist, ignore this thread, not log onto "my Audi" and ignore all the talk of engine shortages/VED increases and July delivery's, I failed dramatically on all of them.

Called (caved in) a couple of days ago, and the response to my build date being 10th April and the VED effect is that Audi have mistakenly taken too many orders for the UK S5, this has pushed delivery dates to, where they are. (So no promise that they'll dramatically bounce back)

Also what's to be done with the additional VED when these cars are registered after April 1st is still up in the air, Audi, and therefore my broker are awaiting a decision from "The head of Audi UK" as they are aware it's their fault they have taken on too many orders, but no decision has been made yet, this is a UK wide issue, I was told.

So it may be that some of you that have it guaranteed, the broker/dealer has just decided they'll write off the 750 if it happens, or whatever, I'm not sure, but it appears Audi have messed up a bit.

Although, this may be all crap and my broker might just be eyeing up an additional 750 from me!

So I suppose the big question is if people do want to cancel will they willingly let them cancel as it's kind of doing them a favour?

Or offer them a S5 Coupe or an S4 for the same money on a quicker build date, it looks like Audi UK sales have not been talking to Audi production, and only halted things when the Nein, Nein, NEIN! Shtoap, shizenheadins! email came in.

[TomScrut]

Electronicpants said:

TomScrut said:

Electronicpants said:

Not great news from my broker today.

After trying my best to resist, ignore this thread, not log onto "my Audi" and ignore all the talk of engine shortages/VED increases and July delivery's, I failed dramatically on all of them.

Called (caved in) a couple of days ago, and the response to my build date being 10th April and the VED effect is that Audi have mistakenly taken too many orders for the UK S5, this has pushed delivery dates to, where they are. (So no promise that they'll dramatically bounce back)

Also what's to be done with the additional VED when these cars are registered after April 1st is still up in the air, Audi, and therefore my broker are awaiting a decision from "The head of Audi UK" as they are aware it's their fault they have taken on too many orders, but no decision has been made yet, this is a UK wide issue, I was told.

So it may be that some of you that have it guaranteed, the broker/dealer has just decided they'll write off the 750 if it happens, or whatever, I'm not sure, but it appears Audi have messed up a bit.

Although, this may be all crap and my broker might just be eyeing up an additional 750 from me!

So I suppose the big question is if people do want to cancel will they willingly let them cancel as it's kind of doing them a favour?

Or offer them a S5 Coupe or an S4 for the same money on a quicker build date, it looks like Audi UK sales have not been talking to Audi production, and only halted things when the Nein, Nein, NEIN! Shtoap, shizenheadins! email came in.

I'd take an S4 Avant with the same wheels as the S5 for the same money if it came sooner

[TomScrut]

Also, the S4 and S5 can only be specced in red on the configurator now which is odd.

[Electronicpants]

TomScrut said:

Also, the S4 and S5 can only be specced in red on the configurator now which is odd.

Did you just go on to the configrator too

We must have crashed it.

[Ridders71]

TomScrut said:

Your best chance of a good deal is to piggy back off somebody who wants to cancel, or getting a cancelled order.

I am increasingly leaning toward PCP from dealer as costs over 3 years pretty similar, and with probably a misplaced hope that I will have some equity in the car at the end of the term (dealer says this will be the case, but he would say that..!) I will end up doing less mileage than the 10k per year so that will help. Dealer has also committed to include first year VED at new rates in the deal. Either that or I end up going for a less stylish but more practical S4 Avant....decisions, decisions!

[TomScrut]

Ridders71 said:

I am increasingly leaning toward PCP from dealer as costs over 3 years pretty similar, and with probably a misplaced hope that I will have some equity in the car at the end of the term (dealer says this will be the case, but he would say that..!) I will end up doing less mileage than the 10k per year so that will help. Dealer has also committed to include first year VED at new rates in the deal. Either that or I end up going for a less stylish but more practical S4 Avant....decisions, decisions!

I really wish the A5 had the A4 headlamps. The very front end of the A4 is nicer IMO but the A5 is nicer overall.

[Ridders71]

TomScrut said:

Electronicpants said:

TomScrut said:

Electronicpants said:

Not great news from my broker today.

After trying my best to resist, ignore this thread, not log onto "my Audi" and ignore all the talk of engine shortages/VED increases and July delivery's, I failed dramatically on all of them.

Called (caved in) a couple of days ago, and the response to my build date being 10th April and the VED effect is that Audi have mistakenly taken too many orders for the UK S5, this has pushed delivery dates to, where they are. (So no promise that they'll dramatically bounce back)

Also what's to be done with the additional VED when these cars are registered after April 1st is still up in the air, Audi, and therefore my broker are awaiting a decision from "The head of Audi UK" as they are aware it's their fault they have taken on too many orders, but no decision has been made yet, this is a UK wide issue, I was told.

So it may be that some of you that have it guaranteed, the broker/dealer has just decided they'll write off the 750 if it happens, or whatever, I'm not sure, but it appears Audi have messed up a bit.

Although, this may be all crap and my broker might just be eyeing up an additional 750 from me!

So I suppose the big question is if people do want to cancel will they willingly let them cancel as it's kind of doing them a favour?

Or offer them a S5 Coupe or an S4 for the same money on a quicker build date, it looks like Audi UK sales have not been talking to Audi production, and only halted things when the Nein, Nein, NEIN! Shtoap, shizenheadins! email came in.

I'd take an S4 Avant with the same wheels as the S5 for the same money if it came sooner

according to guy at Stable Vehicle Contracts, Audi UK informing of delays to both S4 and S5

[TomScrut]

Ridders71 said:

TomScrut said:

Electronicpants said:

TomScrut said:

Electronicpants said:

Not great news from my broker today.

After trying my best to resist, ignore this thread, not log onto "my Audi" and ignore all the talk of engine shortages/VED increases and July delivery's, I failed dramatically on all of them.

Called (caved in) a couple of days ago, and the response to my build date being 10th April and the VED effect is that Audi have mistakenly taken too many orders for the UK S5, this has pushed delivery dates to, where they are. (So no promise that they'll dramatically bounce back)

Also what's to be done with the additional VED when these cars are registered after April 1st is still up in the air, Audi, and therefore my broker are awaiting a decision from "The head of Audi UK" as they are aware it's their fault they have taken on too many orders, but no decision has been made yet, this is a UK wide issue, I was told.

So it may be that some of you that have it guaranteed, the broker/dealer has just decided they'll write off the 750 if it happens, or whatever, I'm not sure, but it appears Audi have messed up a bit.

Although, this may be all crap and my broker might just be eyeing up an additional 750 from me!

So I suppose the big question is if people do want to cancel will they willingly let them cancel as it's kind of doing them a favour?

Or offer them a S5 Coupe or an S4 for the same money on a quicker build date, it looks like Audi UK sales have not been talking to Audi production, and only halted things when the Nein, Nein, NEIN! Shtoap, shizenheadins! email came in.

I'd take an S4 Avant with the same wheels as the S5 for the same money if it came sooner

according to guy at Stable Vehicle Contracts, Audi UK informing of delays to both S4 and S5

Hmm so may be an engine issue or something else then, I know there were a few S4 deals but they weren't quite as good as the S5 so I doubt they will have oversold them.

[Ridders71]

Electronicpants said:

Not great news from my broker today.

After trying my best to resist, ignore this thread, not log onto "my Audi" and ignore all the talk of engine shortages/VED increases and July delivery's, I failed dramatically on all of them.

Called (caved in) a couple of days ago, and the response to my build date being 10th April and the VED effect is that Audi have mistakenly taken too many orders for the UK S5, this has pushed delivery dates to, where they are. (So no promise that they'll dramatically bounce back)

Also what's to be done with the additional VED when these cars are registered after April 1st is still up in the air, Audi, and therefore my broker are awaiting a decision from "The head of Audi UK" as they are aware it's their fault they have taken on too many orders, but no decision has been made yet, this is a UK wide issue, I was told.

So it may be that some of you that have it guaranteed, the broker/dealer has just decided they'll write off the 750 if it happens, or whatever, I'm not sure, but it appears Audi have messed up a bit.

Although, this may be all crap and my broker might just be eyeing up an additional 750 from me!

this might explain why my local Audi dealer has been so slow at responding to anything, they seem to be making it hard for me to buy a car from them, perhaps they are under instruction to slow down...!