The S5 lease thread
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audia530tdi said:
Ive just rang Sheffield Audi direct and managed to update my spec to add flat bottom steering wheel, virtual cockpit and BO sound system to pay for separately. She was fine with that and confirmed no change to build date.
Key lesson here - dont ask broker to amend as they'll tell you porkies. Go direct to dealer. Thanks to simonwhite2000 for that tip!
My dealer said (via email....) that it's too late, when is your build date?Key lesson here - dont ask broker to amend as they'll tell you porkies. Go direct to dealer. Thanks to simonwhite2000 for that tip!
Just have a very long email from fleet source after chasing them twice in the last 24 hours to ask for an update.It looks to be a generic email, so suspect some of you may be receiving the same thing as me.
It basically said that S5 volumes initially placed huge constraint on allocation and therefore this has led to extended lead time. Apparently Audi are waiting for further allocation which will not be available until February 2017. They go on to say that the average estimated lead time of ALL orders is May/June 2017.
To add insult to injury, in the same email they have also said that the increase in road fund licence WILL ( with an emphasis on the word will) my agreement. They have estimated that the increasing cost will be between £15 and £20. this is frustrating as I spoke to them on the phone when I thought the car might be delayed and was told that it wouldn't affect me.
I also checked my signed customer order form and under road fund licence it simply said included and then the word yes - there was no comment about the cost was included, so I'm struggling to work out if they can actually charge any more as the paperwork was signed. I'm going to read it in a bit more detail, I suspect there might be something that gives them some sort of get out clause somewhere in the small print.
It basically said that S5 volumes initially placed huge constraint on allocation and therefore this has led to extended lead time. Apparently Audi are waiting for further allocation which will not be available until February 2017. They go on to say that the average estimated lead time of ALL orders is May/June 2017.
To add insult to injury, in the same email they have also said that the increase in road fund licence WILL ( with an emphasis on the word will) my agreement. They have estimated that the increasing cost will be between £15 and £20. this is frustrating as I spoke to them on the phone when I thought the car might be delayed and was told that it wouldn't affect me.
I also checked my signed customer order form and under road fund licence it simply said included and then the word yes - there was no comment about the cost was included, so I'm struggling to work out if they can actually charge any more as the paperwork was signed. I'm going to read it in a bit more detail, I suspect there might be something that gives them some sort of get out clause somewhere in the small print.
simonbamg said:
Just got an email from fleetsauce, looks like my order (sportback) won't be here till may/June according to Audi and I will be charged the extra VED, neither are any good for me... very annoying
You beat me to it, I was just writing my post to say the same thing.I suspect they will have quite a few frustrated customers emails today.
Edited by JetskiJezz on Tuesday 24th January 14:51
TomScrut said:
Basically as I understood the contract, they can increase the price before the car is delivered, but you can cancel at that point. How many people will cancel is another thing altogether.
Having just looked through the fleet source terms and conditions it does seem that you are right with your understanding. There is definitely something that says that the supplier can vary the price of the product at any time prior to supply of the product, but that the customer then has a right to cancel/terminate the order.JetskiJezz said:
Having just looked through the fleet source terms and conditions it does seem that you are right with your understanding. There is definitely something that says that the supplier can vary the price of the product at any time prior to supply of the product, but that the customer then has a right to cancel/terminate the order.
When all is said and done, the VED thing is out of their hands, although I think they could have been a bit more restrictive with the deal or something so its kind of their fault they oversold. Then I might not have got one though.....TomScrut said:
JetskiJezz said:
Having just looked through the fleet source terms and conditions it does seem that you are right with your understanding. There is definitely something that says that the supplier can vary the price of the product at any time prior to supply of the product, but that the customer then has a right to cancel/terminate the order.
When all is said and done, the VED thing is out of their hands, although I think they could have been a bit more restrictive with the deal or something so its kind of their fault they oversold. Then I might not have got one though.....Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
JetskiJezz said:
I have just assumed that there was a limited amount of the S5's that were being offered at the original price and once they have the quota signed up for the deal with stop.. I also assume, because the deal was in my opinion really good that it was based on trying to fill up all the books and keep the factory process running whilst the new shape car gained traction and started to fill up all the books through the normal main dealer channels. I would have thought that is where most of these "bargain" type offers tend to come from but it's not my area of expertise.
Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
its interesting you say its a really good deal. I think it is but on the leasing thread forum somebody said it was not deal-worthy as it was around 25% of the RRP rather than 20% or whatever the target of the thread is. Some seem to forget that this car will depreciate quicker than a diesel of a similar price because of the fuel economy, so should be dearer to lease, and if you compare to what you can get C43s for it looks a steal!Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
TomScrut said:
JetskiJezz said:
I have just assumed that there was a limited amount of the S5's that were being offered at the original price and once they have the quota signed up for the deal with stop.. I also assume, because the deal was in my opinion really good that it was based on trying to fill up all the books and keep the factory process running whilst the new shape car gained traction and started to fill up all the books through the normal main dealer channels. I would have thought that is where most of these "bargain" type offers tend to come from but it's not my area of expertise.
Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
its interesting you say its a really good deal. I think it is but on the leasing thread forum somebody said it was not deal-worthy as it was around 25% of the RRP rather than 20% or whatever the target of the thread is. Some seem to forget that this car will depreciate quicker than a diesel of a similar price because of the fuel economy, so should be dearer to lease, and if you compare to what you can get C43s for it looks a steal!Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
I spent the last couple of months searching quite hard just to see if there was an alternative to the S5 at anything close to its price point and nothing was getting close to it at all in terms of budget.
JetskiJezz said:
TomScrut said:
JetskiJezz said:
I have just assumed that there was a limited amount of the S5's that were being offered at the original price and once they have the quota signed up for the deal with stop.. I also assume, because the deal was in my opinion really good that it was based on trying to fill up all the books and keep the factory process running whilst the new shape car gained traction and started to fill up all the books through the normal main dealer channels. I would have thought that is where most of these "bargain" type offers tend to come from but it's not my area of expertise.
Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
its interesting you say its a really good deal. I think it is but on the leasing thread forum somebody said it was not deal-worthy as it was around 25% of the RRP rather than 20% or whatever the target of the thread is. Some seem to forget that this car will depreciate quicker than a diesel of a similar price because of the fuel economy, so should be dearer to lease, and if you compare to what you can get C43s for it looks a steal!Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
I spent the last couple of months searching quite hard just to see if there was an alternative to the S5 at anything close to its price point and nothing was getting close to it at all in terms of budget.
audia530tdi said:
Ive just rang Sheffield Audi direct and managed to update my spec to add flat bottom steering wheel, virtual cockpit and BO sound system to pay for separately. She was fine with that and confirmed no change to build date.
Key lesson here - dont ask broker to amend as they'll tell you porkies. Go direct to dealer. Thanks to simonwhite2000 for that tip!
You are welcome. I can see it from a broker perspective (not saying its right) that you have the order place and your fee so now you focus on getting more orders and more fees - it is sales after all. Key lesson here - dont ask broker to amend as they'll tell you porkies. Go direct to dealer. Thanks to simonwhite2000 for that tip!
However to get return business there still needs to be a customer care element and if you are given sight of who the dealer is then of course you will contact them if you are not getting the answer you need from the broker. Dealers will mostly want to help you add spec as its more money.
TomScrut said:
JetskiJezz said:
TomScrut said:
JetskiJezz said:
I have just assumed that there was a limited amount of the S5's that were being offered at the original price and once they have the quota signed up for the deal with stop.. I also assume, because the deal was in my opinion really good that it was based on trying to fill up all the books and keep the factory process running whilst the new shape car gained traction and started to fill up all the books through the normal main dealer channels. I would have thought that is where most of these "bargain" type offers tend to come from but it's not my area of expertise.
Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
its interesting you say its a really good deal. I think it is but on the leasing thread forum somebody said it was not deal-worthy as it was around 25% of the RRP rather than 20% or whatever the target of the thread is. Some seem to forget that this car will depreciate quicker than a diesel of a similar price because of the fuel economy, so should be dearer to lease, and if you compare to what you can get C43s for it looks a steal!Now seriously trying to work out what I want to do, part of me thinks just stick with it, but a small part of me is saying cancel it and go and buy something instead. I certainly haven't spotted anything that might be interesting in terms of current lease deals.
I spent the last couple of months searching quite hard just to see if there was an alternative to the S5 at anything close to its price point and nothing was getting close to it at all in terms of budget.
Aargh
I guess it's only a matter of time before I get a similar email from V4B.
I, like most of you have looked about to see if there was anything similar and can't find anything else for the same money coming close to the S5.
What does annoy me is that I'd wouldn't have spent 550 quid on options if i knew that I was getting charged the 750 VED!
What annoys me even more is that when I changed from a coupe to a sportback, he clearly told me that they would just use the same build slot so there would be no delay, but they didn't, the dealer kept my old order going and the Sportback was put through as a new order. I know they don't have a crystal ball, but if they had told me even of the possibility of moving to Sportback was going to cost me another £750, I'd have told them not to bother, my wife has a XC60 so the practical family car box has been ticked.
The only thing I can't complain about too much is the delivery as my current car goes back on the 1st May.
Grrrrrrrrrrr.
I guess it's only a matter of time before I get a similar email from V4B.
I, like most of you have looked about to see if there was anything similar and can't find anything else for the same money coming close to the S5.
What does annoy me is that I'd wouldn't have spent 550 quid on options if i knew that I was getting charged the 750 VED!
What annoys me even more is that when I changed from a coupe to a sportback, he clearly told me that they would just use the same build slot so there would be no delay, but they didn't, the dealer kept my old order going and the Sportback was put through as a new order. I know they don't have a crystal ball, but if they had told me even of the possibility of moving to Sportback was going to cost me another £750, I'd have told them not to bother, my wife has a XC60 so the practical family car box has been ticked.
The only thing I can't complain about too much is the delivery as my current car goes back on the 1st May.
Grrrrrrrrrrr.
ODRALLAG said:
Where can you see that the spec has been updated or which extra options have been added? Also do you have a coupe on order or a sportback? Thanks
If you logon to MyAudi you can then see the spec of your car and it lists all the standard options together with the additional items that have been specced. Unfortunately, it's all been bundled together so you have to sift through the info...I've got a Sportback on order
gatdecore said:
audia530tdi said:
Ive just rang Sheffield Audi direct and managed to update my spec to add flat bottom steering wheel, virtual cockpit and BO sound system to pay for separately. She was fine with that and confirmed no change to build date.
Key lesson here - dont ask broker to amend as they'll tell you porkies. Go direct to dealer. Thanks to simonwhite2000 for that tip!
My dealer said (via email....) that it's too late, when is your build date?Key lesson here - dont ask broker to amend as they'll tell you porkies. Go direct to dealer. Thanks to simonwhite2000 for that tip!
gatdecore said:
TomScrut said:
When is your build date?
20th FebI really must stop reading this thread, I know it's addictive, but it's starting to get me down now.
I my car on 11th November, keep reading about the couple are you getting cars that are 20th Feb build dates which I'm assuming transpires to a roundabout 20th March delivery ( something like four weeks) mine however is stuck on 10th April and has been for what feels like eternity.
I my car on 11th November, keep reading about the couple are you getting cars that are 20th Feb build dates which I'm assuming transpires to a roundabout 20th March delivery ( something like four weeks) mine however is stuck on 10th April and has been for what feels like eternity.
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