Audi A6 BiTDI turbo failure
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Interested in people's thoughts on this one.
Three months ago I bought a 2012 A6 BiTDI. Fantastic car, but an engine management light came on a couple of weeks ago. Had that checked by an Audi specialist and the news is bad. Its a turbo fault. They also said the turbo sounded noisy. The turbo in these is exotic so the unit itself is around £4k and labour is of course on top of that.
I got a warranty from the second hand car dealer, and I'm looking into that, but I'm not confident a turbo will be covered, especially at that cost.
I have some recourse with the car dealer, if theres a possibility that the fault was there when he sold it to me (probably very likely), but I would expect that to take a long time to be resolved, if at all.
What do people think? Have you heard of this before on the biturbo models? The car is under 5 years old and has done 75k miles. Will I have to swallow the cost (and eat beans on toast for the next 5 years)?
Three months ago I bought a 2012 A6 BiTDI. Fantastic car, but an engine management light came on a couple of weeks ago. Had that checked by an Audi specialist and the news is bad. Its a turbo fault. They also said the turbo sounded noisy. The turbo in these is exotic so the unit itself is around £4k and labour is of course on top of that.
I got a warranty from the second hand car dealer, and I'm looking into that, but I'm not confident a turbo will be covered, especially at that cost.
I have some recourse with the car dealer, if theres a possibility that the fault was there when he sold it to me (probably very likely), but I would expect that to take a long time to be resolved, if at all.
What do people think? Have you heard of this before on the biturbo models? The car is under 5 years old and has done 75k miles. Will I have to swallow the cost (and eat beans on toast for the next 5 years)?
DanPhoto said:
The turbo in these is exotic so the unit itself is around £4k
£4k? Naah. Pretty sure it's this one,http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/new...
Get the car out of the dealer and into the hands of a local indy, and supply the turbo. You'll at least be able to afford Heinz.
shtu said:
£4k? Naah. Pretty sure it's this one,
http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/new...
Get the car out of the dealer and into the hands of a local indy, and supply the turbo. You'll at least be able to afford Heinz.
If only.... But thats just a standard turbo for the non BiTDI model. http://www.darksidedevelopments.co.uk/products/new...
Get the car out of the dealer and into the hands of a local indy, and supply the turbo. You'll at least be able to afford Heinz.
The only place I can find one of the BiTDI blowers online with a price is Ebay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GENUINE-Garrett-Turb...
And its with an Indy at the moment. They're Audi specialists, but they're not Audi.
Remanufactured one here, can't speak for the company not affiliated.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A6-A7-SQ5-3-0-BiTDi...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Audi-A6-A7-SQ5-3-0-BiTDi...
OK, that's a bit of a beast.
Bit of hunting on ebay.de fetches up this, http://www.ebay.de/itm/Turbolader-Audi-3-0-Bi-TDI-... which appears to be New and not a rebuild, but my German's not up to all that.
I found the using the Garrett part number on the listing you posted, may be others out there if you hunt by model.
Bit of hunting on ebay.de fetches up this, http://www.ebay.de/itm/Turbolader-Audi-3-0-Bi-TDI-... which appears to be New and not a rebuild, but my German's not up to all that.
I found the using the Garrett part number on the listing you posted, may be others out there if you hunt by model.
Edited by shtu on Wednesday 22 February 17:09
Cheers for the thoughts, people. Some good options here.
I hadn't considered the remanufactured unit, mostly because I want to keep the car and wouldn't want to use anything sub standard - but you can't argue with the price difference. And the first place I checked offers a 12 month warranty.
I'll see where the warranty on the car gets me and then consider my options from there.
I hadn't considered the remanufactured unit, mostly because I want to keep the car and wouldn't want to use anything sub standard - but you can't argue with the price difference. And the first place I checked offers a 12 month warranty.
I'll see where the warranty on the car gets me and then consider my options from there.
Keano81 said:
did you get any resolution to this?
Still up in the air. There was a Technical Product Information (TPI) bulletin on problems with turbos on Audi BiTDIs. So right now the car is with Audi and I'm hoping they diagnose it and fix it as part of that. The indy I took it to were pretty confident the turbo was in bad shape so I might be being optimistic. I will update this thread with any new detail though. Thanks! Interesting to hear what happens and hopefully it will be a satisfactory resolution for you.
Must be quite a rare issue as the engine features in the SQ5 and i haven't heard about many issues with that model but as the engines came out relatively recently it may be an issue that gets bigger as the miles pile on.
I've got an A7 bitdi Dec 2013 @ 40k miles. It really really is a fantastic car/engine especially with the ZF 8-speed box.
Must be quite a rare issue as the engine features in the SQ5 and i haven't heard about many issues with that model but as the engines came out relatively recently it may be an issue that gets bigger as the miles pile on.
I've got an A7 bitdi Dec 2013 @ 40k miles. It really really is a fantastic car/engine especially with the ZF 8-speed box.
Keano81 said:
Thanks! Interesting to hear what happens and hopefully it will be a satisfactory resolution for you.
Must be quite a rare issue as the engine features in the SQ5 and i haven't heard about many issues with that model but as the engines came out relatively recently it may be an issue that gets bigger as the miles pile on.
I've got an A7 bitdi Dec 2013 @ 40k miles. It really really is a fantastic car/engine especially with the ZF 8-speed box.
I loved the combo in an A6 BiTdi but found the gear change/acceleration annoyed my passengers (ie wife and daughters) when pressing on. The 3.0 A4 Tdi I have now has the same 'box but not BiTurbo and, although not feeling not quite as quick is much smoother. Generally a much nicer car actually, IMO.Must be quite a rare issue as the engine features in the SQ5 and i haven't heard about many issues with that model but as the engines came out relatively recently it may be an issue that gets bigger as the miles pile on.
I've got an A7 bitdi Dec 2013 @ 40k miles. It really really is a fantastic car/engine especially with the ZF 8-speed box.
Witchfinder said:
Did you get anywhere with this, or did you throw yourself off a cliff rather than face a £5000 bill? Curious, as I'm about to embark on BiTDi ownership (with an RAC warranty), and it'd be interesting to know if this is a likely problem, and how well Audi have treated you.
Just to add balance to this, I've run an A7 Bitdi for 2 years, with a tuning box fitted - and certainly not taken it easy and its been fine. It's done just under 40k miles. Witchfinder said:
Did you get anywhere with this, or did you throw yourself off a cliff rather than face a £5000 bill? Curious, as I'm about to embark on BiTDi ownership (with an RAC warranty), and it'd be interesting to know if this is a likely problem, and how well Audi have treated you.
For those interested in how this turned out....I've now got my car back, all fixed and running fantastically. It went to my local Audi Dealership in the end and they confirmed the turbo needed a replacement. The total bill with labour costs would have been iro £6 grand, but they offered me some goodwill and I got the work done for a lot less. The turbo was shipped in from Germany, which took a while.
I get the impression the problem is rare, which probably helped them decide to help me out on the cost. That and the car had always been serviced at Audi and was under 5 years old.
Very pleased to have the car back.
Glad to hear you had an ending that wasn't terribly unhappy.
ONE DAY after I got my A7 BiTDi, I got an emissions warning lamp. Temperature sensor in the exhaust, which was replaced under warranty, so all good. I'm absolutely loving the experience.
I've found I can get 42mpg on the run to and from work. Driving around town or pressing on, it's closer to 18mpg, which isn't far off what I averaged in my 5.2l V10 S8!
ONE DAY after I got my A7 BiTDi, I got an emissions warning lamp. Temperature sensor in the exhaust, which was replaced under warranty, so all good. I'm absolutely loving the experience.
I've found I can get 42mpg on the run to and from work. Driving around town or pressing on, it's closer to 18mpg, which isn't far off what I averaged in my 5.2l V10 S8!
DanPhoto said:
For those interested in how this turned out....
I've now got my car back, all fixed and running fantastically. It went to my local Audi Dealership in the end and they confirmed the turbo needed a replacement. The total bill with labour costs would have been iro £6 grand, but they offered me some goodwill and I got the work done for a lot less. The turbo was shipped in from Germany, which took a while.
I get the impression the problem is rare, which probably helped them decide to help me out on the cost. That and the car had always been serviced at Audi and was under 5 years old.
Very pleased to have the car back.
Hi, I'm going through this at the moment. Dealer says it needs a new turbo but it's only done 49K. They've offered a discount off the 5500 quote they gave me but I'm still not too happy about the amount after the discount, given the mileage and age. Do you mind me asking how much you had to pay and how you went about negotiating it? Cheers.I've now got my car back, all fixed and running fantastically. It went to my local Audi Dealership in the end and they confirmed the turbo needed a replacement. The total bill with labour costs would have been iro £6 grand, but they offered me some goodwill and I got the work done for a lot less. The turbo was shipped in from Germany, which took a while.
I get the impression the problem is rare, which probably helped them decide to help me out on the cost. That and the car had always been serviced at Audi and was under 5 years old.
Very pleased to have the car back.
Edited by fafafa on Sunday 26th August 14:00
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