New 2017/18 S5 Driver Feedback

New 2017/18 S5 Driver Feedback

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TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Here's something interesting & very disappointing: Took the spare wheel out yesterday, and underneath in an upright black plastic cowl I noticed a 6" bloody loud speaker!!.....I did think that it was louder inside in dynamic mode than outside, but thought it may have been some exhaust resonance from underneath, obviously not. I HATE the idea of any fake sounds, so I will just disconnect the stupid thing if it is what I think it is.

Edited by IJB1959 on Saturday 25th March 10:29
Hmm that is a disappointment. I will make my mind up when the time comes what to do in this respect though. I quite like the fake noise in the Golf R when kicking it's ass, but not so much when cruising.

IJB1959

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2,139 posts

86 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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TomScrut said:
Hmm that is a disappointment. I will make my mind up when the time comes what to do in this respect though. I quite like the fake noise in the Golf R when kicking it's ass, but not so much when cruising.
Does the Golf R have one as well then??...this sort of fake stuff to me is like having flames on the wheel arches & a tea tray spoiler. Fake sounds on a 50k car though??....this has really lowered my opinion of it now.


Edited by IJB1959 on Saturday 25th March 11:14

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Does the Golf R have one as well then??...this sort of fake stuff to me is like having flames on the wheel arches & a tea tray spoiler. Fake sounds on a 50k car though??....this has really lowered my opinion of it now.


Edited by IJB1959 on Saturday 25th March 11:14
Golf has a "soundaktor" which fakes engine noise, it's an electronic resonator that's just under the front of the windscreen. Not a speaker as such but causes vibration. So this is probably better on the S5 as it will be amplifying the real sound rather than being a vibrating thing that makes it sound more like a Subaru

Edited by TomScrut on Saturday 25th March 11:31

IJB1959

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2,139 posts

86 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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TomScrut said:
Golf has a "soundaktor" which fakes engine noise, it's an electronic resonator that's just under the front of the windscreen. Not a speaker as such but causes vibration
Ok, that's not so bad. Just makes me think that a putting a 'speaker' in is cheap cheat option rather than fitting a decent sounding exhaust system.

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Ok, that's not so bad. Just makes me think that a putting a 'speaker' in is cheap cheat option rather than fitting a decent sounding exhaust system.
Sorry editing while you posted. It's worse than what the S5 will be, as the S5 will be reproducing/amplifying the sound rather than the Golf which makes a noise that doesn't sound like the engine.

The reason why they don't put the mega loud exhausts on is that people like to be having good noise in the car without having mega loud exhausts on the outside. And from what I can tell from YouTube the S5 is already fairly loud outside. It's the combination of making a refined performance car that means you need the car to be well insulated from external noises yet the exhaust and engine are external noises so without putting a Milltek on (which would be too loud for a lot of people) you wouldn't get a lot of noise in the cabin otherwise. And the benefit of it being amplified or fake is that it can be switched on or off.

If it was a cheap hatchback with no requirement for refinement it probably wouldn't need to be artificially enhanced.

Similar to what most cars of this class have as far as I am aware so I aren't surprised. I was more surprised when I read somewhere there wasn't any fake sound. I suppose it's not fake if it's amplifying the actual sound in real time.

IJB1959

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2,139 posts

86 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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TomScrut said:
Sorry editing while you posted. It's worse than what the S5 will be, as the S5 will be reproducing/amplifying the sound rather than the Golf which makes a noise that doesn't sound like the engine.

The reason why they don't put the mega loud exhausts on is that people like to be having good noise in the car without having mega loud exhausts on the outside. And from what I can tell from YouTube the S5 is already fairly loud outside. It's the combination of making a refined performance car that means you need the car to be well insulated from external noises yet the exhaust and engine are external noises so without putting a Milltek on (which would be too loud for a lot of people) you wouldn't get a lot of noise in the cabin otherwise. And the benefit of it being amplified or fake is that it can be switched on or off.

If it was a cheap hatchback with no requirement for refinement it probably wouldn't need to be artificially enhanced.

Similar to what most cars of this class have as far as I am aware so I aren't surprised. I was more surprised when I read somewhere there wasn't any fake sound. I suppose it's not fake if it's amplifying the actual sound in real time.
Yes, I do get your point for those who want their car to sound like something it's not, but for me I'd rather nothing at all than (IMO) a silly and pointless fake/amplified sound inside, and TBH as I don't care about the sound inside and now knowing I can now unplug it is actually a bonus. If it was real then fine, and what you may expect from buying a performance car. It's just this un-advertised 'cheating sound' that bugs me. Seems like the days are going where you actually hear the engine in a refined car as it was meant to sound such as Aston Martin etc.

JetskiJezz

662 posts

136 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Here's something interesting & very disappointing: Took the spare wheel out yesterday, and underneath in an upright black plastic cowl I noticed a 6" bloody loud speaker!!.....I did think that it was louder inside in dynamic mode than outside, but thought it may have been some exhaust resonance from underneath, obviously not. I HATE the idea of any fake sounds, so I will just disconnect the stupid thing if it is what I think it is.

Edited by IJB1959 on Saturday 25th March 10:29
Have you tried disconnecting it yet to see if it does make any noticeable difference?
Suppose you have any pictures of it?
Having done a quick Google search, I can't see anyone else referring to this and just wondered what it actually really does?

IJB1959

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2,139 posts

86 months

Saturday 25th March 2017
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JetskiJezz said:
Have you tried disconnecting it yet to see if it does make any noticeable difference?
Suppose you have any pictures of it?
Having done a quick Google search, I can't see anyone else referring to this and just wondered what it actually really does?
Have posted on the lease thread.

IJB1959

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2,139 posts

86 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Opinions please.

My SB came from my local Audi dealer with the 'quattro' emblem on the rear doors. They seem to have a habit of doing this on all new applicable cars (as mentioned with some example photo's back in this thread). I'm not sure if I want to leave it or take it off...i'm edging towards taking them off, what do you all think??


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TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Opinions please.

My SB came from my local Audi dealer with the 'quattro' emblem on the rear doors. They seem to have a habit of doing this on all new applicable cars (as mentioned with some example photo's back in this thread). I'm not sure if I want to leave it or take it off...i'm edging towards taking them off, what do you all think??


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I hope mine doesn't have it when it shows up. I'll leave it at that!

Has anyone who got theirs from JCT got this on their car?

IJB1959

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2,139 posts

86 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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TomScrut said:
I hope mine doesn't have it when it shows up. I'll leave it at that!

Has anyone who got theirs from JCT got this on their car?
Hmmm, maybe your thinking what I am thinking....a bit tacky?....maybe should have told them not to put these on then, but it slipped my mind.

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Hmmm, maybe your thinking what I am thinking....a bit tacky?....maybe should have told them not to put these on then, but it slipped my mind.
Well one would not expect it to be put on as default! Yes I think it is a bit tacky TBH it doesn't look like it is meant to be there.

IJB1959

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2,139 posts

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Monday 27th March 2017
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TomScrut said:
Well one would not expect it to be put on as default! Yes I think it is a bit tacky TBH it doesn't look like it is meant to be there.
Yep, I know what you mean. I keep looking at it now the car is parked parallel to the house. I Have not had a chance to do anything yet as just been to busy, but when I finally get around to washing it, I will borrow the wife's hairdryer as they should come off fairly easy I think. Didn't look so bad on an blue S3 convertible in the showroom though. http://thumbsnap.com/dD6V8MQH


Edited by IJB1959 on Monday 27th March 10:30

JetskiJezz

662 posts

136 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Opinions please.

My SB came from my local Audi dealer with the 'quattro' emblem on the rear doors. They seem to have a habit of doing this on all new applicable cars (as mentioned with some example photo's back in this thread). I'm not sure if I want to leave it or take it off...i'm edging towards taking them off, what do you all think??


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Personally I quite like it, have been thinking about whether I would put on my car but wasn't sure what it would look like, so thanks for posting the picture.
If I was going to do it, I would have put it on the skirting trim below the door rather than on the door itself, but that's a personal thing.
My question would be how easy it is to remove, I had one of these on a previous car and the guy I sold it to asked me to take it off and I remember it being a complete nightmare, I tried and sorts of things from various blue removing chemicals to scraping it off with a credit card in the end.......

By the way, the side profile of the car in black with privacy glass looks awesome - can't wait for to arrive

IJB1959

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2,139 posts

86 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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JetskiJezz said:
Personally I quite like it, have been thinking about whether I would put on my car but wasn't sure what it would look like, so thanks for posting the picture.
If I was going to do it, I would have put it on the skirting trim below the door rather than on the door itself, but that's a personal thing.
My question would be how easy it is to remove, I had one of these on a previous car and the guy I sold it to asked me to take it off and I remember it being a complete nightmare, I tried and sorts of things from various blue removing chemicals to scraping it off with a credit card in the end.......

By the way, the side profile of the car in black with privacy glass looks awesome - can't wait for to arrive
Yes, maybe if they had positioned it better I may think otherwise. A hair drier should work I hope.

Mrjww88

60 posts

87 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Are there any cheap reversible
Mods for the exhaust that can be done? I'm just looking for some more pops on the upshift and downshift 😬😬

simonbamg

767 posts

123 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Opinions please.

My SB came from my local Audi dealer with the 'quattro' emblem on the rear doors. They seem to have a habit of doing this on all new applicable cars (as mentioned with some example photo's back in this thread). I'm not sure if I want to leave it or take it off...i'm edging towards taking them off, what do you all think??


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I like it, hope mine has it, the car looks great

catso

14,784 posts

267 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Here's something interesting & very disappointing: Took the spare wheel out yesterday, and underneath in an upright black plastic cowl I noticed a 6" bloody loud speaker!!.....I did think that it was louder inside in dynamic mode than outside, but thought it may have been some exhaust resonance from underneath, obviously not. I HATE the idea of any fake sounds, so I will just disconnect the stupid thing if it is what I think it is.
Sounds like the subwoofer for the stereo to me...

Justhe-1

144 posts

94 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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IJB1959 said:
Opinions please.

My SB came from my local Audi dealer with the 'quattro' emblem on the rear doors. They seem to have a habit of doing this on all new applicable cars (as mentioned with some example photo's back in this thread). I'm not sure if I want to leave it or take it off...i'm edging towards taking them off, what do you all think??


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Looks OK but def been put in the wrong place - below the rear door just in front of the rear wheel arch and it may have looked a lot better..

TomScrut

2,546 posts

88 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Justhe-1 said:
Looks OK but def been put in the wrong place - below the rear door just in front of the rear wheel arch and it may have looked a lot better..
I think that's my main issue with it