R8 as a £40k used buy?
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Trev450 said:
jon- said:
I'm not sure how this started, but I'm now considering one of these as an e92 M3 replacement.
Have many people disconnected the front wheels? I presume that causes a lot of electric issues.
Why would you want to?Have many people disconnected the front wheels? I presume that causes a lot of electric issues.
Peanus said:
Trev450 said:
jon- said:
I'm not sure how this started, but I'm now considering one of these as an e92 M3 replacement.
Have many people disconnected the front wheels? I presume that causes a lot of electric issues.
Why would you want to?Have many people disconnected the front wheels? I presume that causes a lot of electric issues.
PompeyReece said:
Peanus said:
Trev450 said:
jon- said:
I'm not sure how this started, but I'm now considering one of these as an e92 M3 replacement.
Have many people disconnected the front wheels? I presume that causes a lot of electric issues.
Why would you want to?Have many people disconnected the front wheels? I presume that causes a lot of electric issues.
After posting I did some research and you can buy a kit in America for about £300. You save nearly 100lbs and gain about 10% RWHP due to less transmission losses. Apparently the car feels more responsive, quicker and the steering lightens up and has more feel.
Why wouldn't you do it
jon- said:
I like RWD, I dislike quattro. I love the RWS (driven a few), I can't afford the RWS.
After posting I did some research and you can buy a kit in America for about £300. You save nearly 100lbs and gain about 10% RWHP due to less transmission losses. Apparently the car feels more responsive, quicker and the steering lightens up and has more feel.
Why wouldn't you do it
I can understand the reasons why someone may want to do this,weight saving, handling charateristics etc, but if the main motive is to introduce RWD handling traits, then you may not be aware that with 80 percent drive to the rear wheels, the R8 will already feel close to this.After posting I did some research and you can buy a kit in America for about £300. You save nearly 100lbs and gain about 10% RWHP due to less transmission losses. Apparently the car feels more responsive, quicker and the steering lightens up and has more feel.
Why wouldn't you do it
Trev450 said:
jon- said:
I like RWD, I dislike quattro. I love the RWS (driven a few), I can't afford the RWS.
After posting I did some research and you can buy a kit in America for about £300. You save nearly 100lbs and gain about 10% RWHP due to less transmission losses. Apparently the car feels more responsive, quicker and the steering lightens up and has more feel.
Why wouldn't you do it
I can understand the reasons why someone may want to do this,weight saving, handling charateristics etc, but if the main motive is to introduce RWD handling traits, then you may not be aware that with 80 percent drive to the rear wheels, the R8 will already feel close to this.After posting I did some research and you can buy a kit in America for about £300. You save nearly 100lbs and gain about 10% RWHP due to less transmission losses. Apparently the car feels more responsive, quicker and the steering lightens up and has more feel.
Why wouldn't you do it
jon- said:
Trev450 said:
jon- said:
I like RWD, I dislike quattro. I love the RWS (driven a few), I can't afford the RWS.
After posting I did some research and you can buy a kit in America for about £300. You save nearly 100lbs and gain about 10% RWHP due to less transmission losses. Apparently the car feels more responsive, quicker and the steering lightens up and has more feel.
Why wouldn't you do it
I can understand the reasons why someone may want to do this,weight saving, handling charateristics etc, but if the main motive is to introduce RWD handling traits, then you may not be aware that with 80 percent drive to the rear wheels, the R8 will already feel close to this.After posting I did some research and you can buy a kit in America for about £300. You save nearly 100lbs and gain about 10% RWHP due to less transmission losses. Apparently the car feels more responsive, quicker and the steering lightens up and has more feel.
Why wouldn't you do it
Trev450 said:
jon- said:
No doubt if I do go down this route I'll end up spinning into a ditch in the first 23 seconds
Wonder if the nanny mechanisms will still function.Unlike the last RWS I drove... which was convinced it had a 4WD error and sat in limp mode
I would only do a 2wd modification in the UK if I was developing a serious track-only car. I'm sure the weight savings would pay off on a dry circuit. For use on damp roads I find anything with more than 400hp has difficulty with traction; I recently had a test drive in a M4CS and it really struggled in damp conditions on Michelin PSS. I don't have that problem on the R8V10 with even more power and running on Cup2 tyres.
I'm fairly certain the transmission is specified during the EU type approval process and the manufacturers Cert of Compliance (CoC) will be issued on that basis, so you may find that a 2wd conversion in the EU may invalidate the CoC. It's possible that this mod may constitute a "radically altered vehicle" and you may have to apply for a certificate from the DVLA/VCA; really not sure about this - I have imported vehicles but never radically modified them! It would certainly be an interesting conversation with your insurance company who would need to be informed.
I'm fairly certain the transmission is specified during the EU type approval process and the manufacturers Cert of Compliance (CoC) will be issued on that basis, so you may find that a 2wd conversion in the EU may invalidate the CoC. It's possible that this mod may constitute a "radically altered vehicle" and you may have to apply for a certificate from the DVLA/VCA; really not sure about this - I have imported vehicles but never radically modified them! It would certainly be an interesting conversation with your insurance company who would need to be informed.
Nuttcase said:
I would only do a 2wd modification in the UK if I was developing a serious track-only car. I'm sure the weight savings would pay off on a dry circuit. For use on damp roads I find anything with more than 400hp has difficulty with traction; I recently had a test drive in a M4CS and it really struggled in damp conditions on Michelin PSS. I don't have that problem on the R8V10 with even more power and running on Cup2 tyres.
That's probably more to do with the M4 having a boatload of torque from very low down, leading to skittish and tail happy behaviour. It's always been one of the M3/M4s main criticisms. RWD will never really be a problem if you drive sensibly/to the conditions anywho. It's what makes it a challenge.
Hol said:
I have heard of people converting AWD cars to RWD specifically for drifting.
Unless I was bored, I really cannot see the point of wanting to do it, when a properly designed RWD car can be bought.
Can't quite fathom that myself but good luck to them - I guess a new Gen 2 RWD is £115-£120k upwards with extras, a converted Gen 1 V10 could be had for around 1/2 that, albeit an older car etc.. Unless I was bored, I really cannot see the point of wanting to do it, when a properly designed RWD car can be bought.
I've seen people have an R-tronic converted to a Manual too! Bonkers what people do with cars.... and find the people able to do it!!!
Hol said:
I have heard of people converting AWD cars to RWD specifically for drifting.
Unless I was bored, I really cannot see the point of wanting to do it, when a properly designed RWD car can be bought.
Find me a MR NA RWD supercar for less money Unless I was bored, I really cannot see the point of wanting to do it, when a properly designed RWD car can be bought.
Also, regarding the point. Because you can
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