Bi-Annual Servicing

Bi-Annual Servicing

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blade runner

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1,029 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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My '06 Vantage was last serviced just before I purchased back in August 2016. Since then I've only managed to put 500 miles or so on the clock and will maybe add another 1,000-1,500 before this August. I was planning to get another service this autumn just to keep the annual stamps going in my service book, but now wondering if it's really essential given the low mileage since the previous service.

I can see why annual services are preferred on newer cars, but mine is over ten years old now and I've no intention of selling any time soon, so any possible effect on re-sale value doesn't particularly bother me. Servicing every other year would obviously save me some money, but just wanted to check first to see if there is any particular (mechanical) reason why an annual service is required?

RobDown

3,803 posts

128 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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oh you mean bi-ennial. I was intrigued by a post where somewhat wanted to do two services a year!

davek_964

8,813 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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I prefer annual servicing even with low mileage. Whether it really needs it is a valid question, but even in 500 miles things can unexpectedly reach the end of their life and it's good to have the car checked over.

The_Orange

63 posts

93 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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I'm not saying this is what you should do, but this is how i'm planning to do it with mine:

I bought my Vantage in late 2015, and I also haven't put that many miles on it.

I plan to do the service every 1,5 to two years. It uses 10w60 full synthetic oil, and when I last checked the oil level, the oil was still clear.

So, I know a fully stamped book is a plus when selling, but just like you, i'm not planning on selling anytime soon.

So, in my opinion, as long as the oil level is between min and max, I don't think it is bad to have it serviced every two years.

Porsche is also every two years. Don't they use full synthetic as well? Oil can deteriorate over time (full synthetic oil maybe a bit later?), but avoid doing small drives.

Just my two cents.

EDIT: do regular oil checks. To low on oil is worse than old oil.

Edited by The_Orange on Tuesday 28th March 12:53


Edited by The_Orange on Tuesday 28th March 12:54

davek_964

8,813 posts

175 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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The_Orange said:
I'm not saying this is what you should do, but this is how i'm planning to do it with mine:

I bought my Vantage in late 2015, and I also haven't put that many miles on it.

I plan to do the service every 1,5 to two years. It uses 10w60 full synthetic oil, and when I last checked the oil level, the oil was still clear.

So, I know a fully stamped book is a plus when selling, but just like you, i'm not planning on selling anytime soon.

So, in my opinion, as long as the oil level is between min and max, I don't think it is bad to have it serviced every two years.

Porsche is also every two years. Don't they use full synthetic as well?

Just my two cents.
Porsche is curious, since if I remember correctly they went from 1 to 2 years without any major changes in engine design in between.

bogie

16,382 posts

272 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Wouldnt worry about it on a 10 year old car its not like missing a service after 2500 miles of use is going to knock £10k off the value. I would get it done the next year or when its gone 10K miles between services (if sooner)

Dewi 1

285 posts

122 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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OP. If your car is a keeper, then a stamp in the book is obviously of little importance. I am in the same position as you, keeper and low miles.

The important point to us, is to do what is correct to maintain the car properly.

I have owned a Mercedes for many years, and servicing intervals are not fixed, but are indicated on the dashboard as required. When used for say just 5,000 miles each year, the oil change service occurs only every 2 years, and therefore the more comprehensive service only every 4 years.

If Mercedes say the engine oil is fine for 2 years, are they wrong?
As with my Aston Martin, the oil has never needed topping up between services.

davek_964 said:
Porsche is curious, since if I remember correctly they went from 1 to 2 years without any major changes in engine design in between.

Mercedes have now gone the other way. MB service intervals for their recent cars, is now every 12 months irrespective of mileage.
Perhaps they do not like me only giving them money every 2 years. smile







Edited by Dewi 1 on Tuesday 28th March 14:10

AMDBSVNick

6,995 posts

162 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Nobody seems to be factoring in rubber seals and the like that may dry out and perish due to lack of use scratchchin

blade runner

Original Poster:

1,029 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Thanks for all the comments. My car is a keeper, so the stamps are not that important to me - just trying to save myself some money if there's no good mechanical reason why it needs a service every year given the limited mileage.

It's not like it's getting no use at all and standing in the garage all year - I just don't use it that regularly and when I do it tends not to be big distances. Oil level has not dropped since I bought it last year and I fully intend on getting a full service every second year, so I think the risks are quite small. Like others have said, plenty of other manufacturers do servicing every two years or related to mileage and it's not like the 4.3 engine is especially complex or known to be fragile.

jeyjey

220 posts

97 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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If you do go every 2 years, I'd change the brake fluid at every service. 4 years is a bit long (at least in Ireland; if you're in AZ or CA it's probably fine).

Cheers,
Jeff.

Big Ry

1,678 posts

119 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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500 miles in 9 months......I hope you were either banned or in prison as I see no other valid reason for such tardiness laugh

Joking aside I'm one for keeping the service book all as it should be.....to my detriment at times too. I doubt it needs bugger all doing but what can you do eh.

Murph7355

37,708 posts

256 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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AMDBSVNick said:
Nobody seems to be factoring in rubber seals and the like that may dry out and perish due to lack of use scratchchin
I doubt this degree of lack of use/servicing will be an issue on that front. Though that sort of lack of use generally is not great for cars.

OP - if you don't care about residuals/ability to trade the car in later, do what you want to do. It's your car to be enjoyed how you want to smile

I personally wouldn't. Having someone who knows what they're doing look over the car once per year is good peace of mind. And whilst modern fluids should cope, the cost of them is peanuts compared to new engines/gearboxes should they not do. But it's up to you.

blade runner

Original Poster:

1,029 posts

212 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Big Ry said:
500 miles in 9 months......I hope you were either banned or in prison as I see no other valid reason for such tardiness laugh
I know - hanging my head in shame as I type. getmecoat

In my defence, I didn't buy until September last year and then was away a lot with work so not much chance to take it out before winter set in. Make no apologies for not putting in many winter miles as it was always intended to be dry miles only. I've kept it ticking over since then with the odd expedition out every 4-5 weeks and hopefully with spring now coming will be out a lot more. Would have loved to have been out last weekend as the weather was lovely. Unfortunately I was in Barcelona where it was pissing it down - typical...

Car mad enthusiast

571 posts

87 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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+1 and to OP , its perfectly OK to adopt this procedure.

As long as you run the car up regularly and drive her around on the driveway regularly and keep a C-Tek connected and do regular driver checks between your 2 yearly services then all be be well.

I have been on 2 yearly service plans with all my classic cars for many years and NEVER had any issues at all and I average about 2k miles a year max.
The_Orange said:
I'm not saying this is what you should do, but this is how i'm planning to do it with mine:

I bought my Vantage in late 2015, and I also haven't put that many miles on it.

I plan to do the service every 1,5 to two years. It uses 10w60 full synthetic oil, and when I last checked the oil level, the oil was still clear.

So, I know a fully stamped book is a plus when selling, but just like you, i'm not planning on selling anytime soon.

So, in my opinion, as long as the oil level is between min and max, I don't think it is bad to have it serviced every two years.

Porsche is also every two years. Don't they use full synthetic as well? Oil can deteriorate over time (full synthetic oil maybe a bit later?), but avoid doing small drives.

Just my two cents.

EDIT: do regular oil checks. To low on oil is worse than old oil.

Edited by The_Orange on Tuesday 28th March 12:53


Edited by The_Orange on Tuesday 28th March 12:54

cayman-black

12,642 posts

216 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Fully agree!

Jon39

12,826 posts

143 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Car mad enthusiast said:
As long as you run the car up regularly and drive her around on the driveway regularly and keep a C-Tek connected and do regular driver checks between your 2 yearly services then all be be well.

Small point.

During the periods when mine is not used, I only do a 4 weekly engine start, if I can also immediately do a 20 to 30 mile drive. I have tried to avoid moving around the driveway. By taking for a drive, the car is put away for its next rest when everything is hot, brake discs are shiny and all startup moisture should have been cleared from the exhaust system.

I try hard to look after the beauty, and presumably I am doing the right things. Helpful suggestions though, are always appreciated.




Mr.Tremlini

1,465 posts

101 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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When I was picking up my `07 from the local AM in 2015, my dealer without provocation suggested servicing every two years would be fine. After 11.5 months I had my first service done anyway, partly because I`d spun up 12,500km, but mostly as I wanted to have a once over while it was still within the 12 month warranty period, which I had no intention of renewing. From now on it will be a strictly 2 yearly service, or thereabouts!

Ken Figenus

5,706 posts

117 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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There is zero issue with the oil - same exact oil does 2 years and 18,000 miles in my 535d... If you ask me they would ALL be fine serviced every 18 months.

Some indies will use a more pragmatic common sense based approach and you can still get the stamp in the book...

Rappa

625 posts

270 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Hi,

When I was looking to buy mine about three years ago, I noticed quite a few cars had services every 14 months thereby getting a stamp every 'year' i.e. 2005, 2006, 2007 but at 6 years they would miss a year (but be 14 months later), ironically this is what I did with my previous Porsche as a halfway house.

But I agree with you about greater periodicity, but I tend to see what the service says 'should be required next time.....'
You could always do / get the service inspection and only change the oil and filter based 'on condition' (some saving) and hopefully still get a stamp which is what the layman wants when buying a car he doesn't understand.

2 new pound coins worth!!!

Sean

blade runner

Original Poster:

1,029 posts

212 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Based on all the advice I think I'll skip the annual service this autumn and do the next one April next year before the car starts to get more regular use after next winter. It's been garaged, hooked up to a battery conditioner and taken out for a decent 20-30 mile blast every 5-6 weeks this winter, so sounds like I'm doing the right things anyway to mitigate any possible issues.