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Nick67 said:
Thanks for that info re discs
Are the ceramics a better option
How important is the Pan roof come resale
Thinking of keeping it for a number years
Don't rate/like the ceramics on a road car. Not nice from cold, can be annoying when wet, relatively easy to damage them, incredibly expensive. Unfortunately two tonnes and 600BHP is a recipe for big brake/tyre bills.Are the ceramics a better option
How important is the Pan roof come resale
Thinking of keeping it for a number years
Sunroof very desirable for resale.
I've had mine for almost 5 years now and have just picked it up after having 'the big one' at a main dealer (engine oil, all filters, diff oil, spark plugs - £1400)
I would try and test drive a DRC and non-DRC car, I have DRC and in hindsight would probably have preferred a non-DRC car as a daily driver given the state of our roads (I did test drive both, generally higher spec'd cars have the dynamic pack)
Tyre wear, I put on a new set of Michelin MPS4S in Aug 2022, 16k miles later they are showing at 5.7 - 6mm all round from the dealer vehicle inspection. The previous Pirelli's I had latest just as well.
I had the rear pads and discs changed at 40k, my fronts are now at 48k with 70% wear, so I expect them to last well into 60k. The standard 21' design wheels (5 spoke) have a notorious reputation for buckling, the y shaped design of the Performance Edition wheel is supposedly far more robust.
I'm on the annual service intervals, so every 12 months it has an oil change at £500'ish regardless of the mileage between services. I've only had to top up the oil once myself. Sunroof seals need doing every other year to maintain warranty, thats about £150'ish at a main dealer. I do keep mine in the extended warranty regime (£800'ish a year I think)
When I was looking to purchase, cars that didn't have a sunroof or the flat-bottomed steering wheel seemed to stay up for sale longer, I certainly wouldn't buy a premium estate/saloon without a sunroof if it was an option. Advanced parking (360 cameras) is well worth seeking out given the size of the car, the driver assistance aids in my opinion are a liability.
My long term average mpg is a smidge under 24, on a long run it'll happily return 30/31 at a steady 70-80mph.
As others have said its a big heavy performance car and if you drive it like you stole it every time you get in it will be expensive to run. But it doesn't have to be *that* expensive.
I would get some insurance quotes upfront before taking the plunge though, mine has doubled in price over the last couple of years to the point where its significantly more expensive to insure than a brand new M3 touring, a car which is probably double the value of my car now.
I would try and test drive a DRC and non-DRC car, I have DRC and in hindsight would probably have preferred a non-DRC car as a daily driver given the state of our roads (I did test drive both, generally higher spec'd cars have the dynamic pack)
Tyre wear, I put on a new set of Michelin MPS4S in Aug 2022, 16k miles later they are showing at 5.7 - 6mm all round from the dealer vehicle inspection. The previous Pirelli's I had latest just as well.
I had the rear pads and discs changed at 40k, my fronts are now at 48k with 70% wear, so I expect them to last well into 60k. The standard 21' design wheels (5 spoke) have a notorious reputation for buckling, the y shaped design of the Performance Edition wheel is supposedly far more robust.
I'm on the annual service intervals, so every 12 months it has an oil change at £500'ish regardless of the mileage between services. I've only had to top up the oil once myself. Sunroof seals need doing every other year to maintain warranty, thats about £150'ish at a main dealer. I do keep mine in the extended warranty regime (£800'ish a year I think)
When I was looking to purchase, cars that didn't have a sunroof or the flat-bottomed steering wheel seemed to stay up for sale longer, I certainly wouldn't buy a premium estate/saloon without a sunroof if it was an option. Advanced parking (360 cameras) is well worth seeking out given the size of the car, the driver assistance aids in my opinion are a liability.
My long term average mpg is a smidge under 24, on a long run it'll happily return 30/31 at a steady 70-80mph.
As others have said its a big heavy performance car and if you drive it like you stole it every time you get in it will be expensive to run. But it doesn't have to be *that* expensive.
I would get some insurance quotes upfront before taking the plunge though, mine has doubled in price over the last couple of years to the point where its significantly more expensive to insure than a brand new M3 touring, a car which is probably double the value of my car now.
Nick67 said:
Thanks very much for taking the time to post, much appreciated.
I've decided I will purchase from an Audi dealer so will keep scaling the various sites
I've got insurance quotes circa £1300
Running costs seem reasonable
Good luck with the search, a couple of other things sprung to mind if buying approved used, ask the dealer for a full service breakdown of what's been done and whats due, for example the diff service is two separate items, you've got the sunroof schedule (if the car has one fitted) and filters are all separate too. From what I've seen, main dealers often have a '2 year warranty' offer on when buying used RS cars, so if they don't currently offer it, push to get it as a negotiation point, and finally pay close attention to the wings, they're aluminium and obviously prone to stone chipping, in some cases this can lead to bubbling and corrosion underneath the paint.I've decided I will purchase from an Audi dealer so will keep scaling the various sites
I've got insurance quotes circa £1300
Running costs seem reasonable
CSLchappie said:
Good luck with the search, a couple of other things sprung to mind if buying approved used, ask the dealer for a full service breakdown of what's been done and whats due, for example the diff service is two separate items, you've got the sunroof schedule (if the car has one fitted) and filters are all separate too. From what I've seen, main dealers often have a '2 year warranty' offer on when buying used RS cars, so if they don't currently offer it, push to get it as a negotiation point, and finally pay close attention to the wings, they're aluminium and obviously prone to stone chipping, in some cases this can lead to bubbling and corrosion underneath the paint.
Think it's going to be a needle in a haystack, nothing out thereSunroofs and DRC are the two must have options though both come with drawbacks, leaks being the biggest concern on both. Carbon pack is also a rare but desirable option. Ceramic brakes are rare and meant to last the life of the car but they're 10k a set if you do need to change them.
A tasteful spec will go a long way to making it resaleable. Red cars sit for ages as does anything modified. Audi Approved Used is the way to go and the way I went, more and more of these cars are being modified or badly maintained and buying from Audi removes those cars from the equation.
As for running costs, theyre overall very reliable for what they are and how much they cost depends on how you drive them. Mine will do well over 30mpg on the motorway but sub 20 is equally easy to achieve, decent tyres cost 300 quid plus and all the other consumable costs are in line with a 600bhp car. A late car wont need the oil strainer recall but make sure its stuck to at least the flexible service schedule. The engine is strong but needs to be used. A well maintained 50-60k example will likely be better than a low mileage garage queen.
All in all they're peak family car in my eyes. I'm yet to find anything that can cover ground quite so easily whilst comfortably carrying everything from bookcases and lawn mowers to a couple of dogs, a baby and the in laws (all of which have been in the back of mine over the past month)
One other thing - they're popular with those who don't like to pay for their cars, so consider how you will store it.
A tasteful spec will go a long way to making it resaleable. Red cars sit for ages as does anything modified. Audi Approved Used is the way to go and the way I went, more and more of these cars are being modified or badly maintained and buying from Audi removes those cars from the equation.
As for running costs, theyre overall very reliable for what they are and how much they cost depends on how you drive them. Mine will do well over 30mpg on the motorway but sub 20 is equally easy to achieve, decent tyres cost 300 quid plus and all the other consumable costs are in line with a 600bhp car. A late car wont need the oil strainer recall but make sure its stuck to at least the flexible service schedule. The engine is strong but needs to be used. A well maintained 50-60k example will likely be better than a low mileage garage queen.
All in all they're peak family car in my eyes. I'm yet to find anything that can cover ground quite so easily whilst comfortably carrying everything from bookcases and lawn mowers to a couple of dogs, a baby and the in laws (all of which have been in the back of mine over the past month)
One other thing - they're popular with those who don't like to pay for their cars, so consider how you will store it.
Edited by CLK-GTR on Sunday 5th May 23:36
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