Do you own a FSI VW or Audi ?

Do you own a FSI VW or Audi ?

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havoc

30,119 posts

236 months

Sunday 22nd March 2009
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TT - many thanks for the detailed reply.

I'll get the wife to ask at VW when she's in there...see if they know anything about it and can recommend any annual treatment as a preventative.

Andyuk911

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1,979 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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Bet you get a blank look Havoc, please post what they say or do, it will be interesting feed back

rsstman

1,918 posts

188 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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Andyuk911 said:
Bet you get a blank look Havoc, please post what they say or do, it will be interesting feed back
indeed. if you manage to explain it to your wife and she conveys it properly to them i am sure there will still be a confused look at the service desk.

havoc

30,119 posts

236 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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rsstman said:
Andyuk911 said:
Bet you get a blank look Havoc, please post what they say or do, it will be interesting feed back
indeed. if you manage to explain it to your wife and she conveys it properly to them i am sure there will still be a confused look at the service desk.
hehe

Hmmm...engineering chinese-whispers from an accountant through a HR person to a technician/fitter...it's got SO many possibilities...we could end up being told to use AutoGlym!!!

Andyuk911

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1,979 posts

210 months

Monday 23rd March 2009
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This is the inside of a 4.2l FSI engine, 19k miles

Just to stress this is NOT an Audi/VW only problem ALL Direct Injection engines will have this. (LP560, 997 Gen2 etc etc)




neiljohnson

11,298 posts

208 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Not looking good for long term reliability, looks like good old fasioned decokes are going to be needed!

Andyuk911

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1,979 posts

210 months

Tuesday 24th March 2009
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Neil,

the solution looks like the Wynn's product. What is a shame, is that nobody knew the product was out there. It was only by chance the coke was discovered and then the appropriate research all this came to light.

A few of us(RS4 B7 owners) were looking at gas flowing the inlet manifold and every car taken apart this could be seen.

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

205 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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Finally found it, not quite as enlightening as I thought, be here it is.





Technical product information Transaction No.: 478301/6
Cleaning of coked engine parts Release date: 19-Mar-2008

Customer statement / workshop findings

All petrol engines. Cleaning of coked engine components (for example: inlet valves, combustion chambers, injectors).


Technical background

Carbon deposits on injectors, combustion chamber surfaces and in the intake system can result in severe running problems following cold starting and in loss of engine power. Tests have shown that coking is mainly caused by fuels and oils with inadequate amounts of additives.


Production change

No change.


Measure

A range of cleaning processes were tested, with the help of which coking deposits can be removed. The most effective method was found to be the injection of a cleaning mixture into the running engine.

In this process, the vehicle is connected to an external fuel circuit using pressure container V.A.G1938 and a suitable adapter for the vehicle fuel pipe.

The pressure reservoir V.A.G 1938 is no longer available.

The cleaning equipment BEDI can be used instead. Please observe its operating instructions. The equipment is available from:


R.U.F

Friedhofstr. 5

67127 Rödersheim-Gronau


Tel. +49 6231 / 7390

Fax +49 6231 / 98531

E-Mail: info@lambdaglobal-deutschld.de

Internet: http://www.lambdaglobal-deutschld.de/eng_version


The cleaning procedure is performed with the engine idling and takes about 30 minutes.

In testing a range of cleaning agents, the best application results were achieved using products from the following manufacturers:

Injection System Purge,

Order number 76602,

Wynn´s Formula 766.

Available from:

Wynn´s Deutschland GmbH

Gothaer Straße 13

40880 Ratingen

Tel. No.: 0 21 02 - 48 03 00, Fax. No.: 0 21 02 - 48 03 10

Detergent for Petrol Systems Carbon Clean,

Order number 400-0020 from Carbon Clean.

Available from: Carbon Cleans Int.´l Distribution P. Reber Ch.

De Bellevue

CH-1423 Villars-Burquin

Tel. no.: 00 41 - 24 71 19 62, Fax. no.: 00 41 - 24 71 23 65

Lambda Injekt Otto - Article no. C100,

Lambda Service Tank Otto - Article no.: A100

Available from: R.U.F. Rep.- und Handels-GmbH W. Stephan

67127 Rödersheim-Gronau

Tel. No.: 0 62 31 - 73 90 or 9 85 46, Fax. No.: 0 62 31 - 9 85 31

Fuel additive for petrol engines, available under - Part No.: G 001 700.03

The cleaning agents have been developed specifically for the removal of coking deposits. There are slight differences in application and in cleaning efficiency.

In the case of combustion chamber coking (e.g. inlet valves) slight advantages were evident when using Wynn's Lambda Global cleaner

and Part No. G001 700.03.

In the case of coked injectors (reduced injection quantity with mileage), there was an advantage to using the cleaner from Carbon Clean.


• Important application instructions: The instructions of the cleaning agent manufacturers must always be observed! An engine oil change must be performed following the use of cleaning agents!

With the exception of Lambda Service Tank Otto and Part No.: G 001 700.03, the addition of cleaning agents to the petrol tank is strictly forbidden!

The preventive use of cleaning agents cannot be invoiced under warranty.


Andyuk911

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1,979 posts

210 months

Monday 6th April 2009
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Intresting, especially ..


• Important application instructions: The instructions of the cleaning agent manufacturers must always be observed! An engine oil change must be performed following the use of cleaning agents!

tev

25 posts

180 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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I need some info , re a golf 2.0 FSI gt , 54 plate . We have replaced the engine , as the same code one , we have problems starting it , we replaced the ECU , and sensors to the crank . still no joy .. any clues

Tev