Perceptions of Mk1 Audi TT?
Discussion
T89 Callan said:
DennisTheMenace said:
T89 Callan said:
It's a decent car, his is remapped and it goes like stink, in reality it handles better than 90% of cars on the road
pffft its based on a Golf , a shopping trolley will out handle one of them. so put a spoiler on said shopping trolley like thy did the titty and it will give it a run for it's money.You're clearly a troll who has driven bugger all cars and just repeats what the biggest bloke in the pub says.
Naff off and let the adults have a serious discussion.
Of course im an idiot , you say so
Ive been on PH now 92 months and a moderator so that makes me a troll?
and ive driven plenty of cars over the years thanks.
But please .. handles better than 90% of cars on the road ?
Driven them all have we to come up with that comparison ?
its still a rebodied golf platform that if you take the spoiler off and drive at high speed it becomes unstable simple as .
just been to the pub to confirm it .
DennisTheMenace said:
T89 Callan said:
DennisTheMenace said:
T89 Callan said:
It's a decent car, his is remapped and it goes like stink, in reality it handles better than 90% of cars on the road
pffft its based on a Golf , a shopping trolley will out handle one of them. so put a spoiler on said shopping trolley like thy did the titty and it will give it a run for it's money.You're clearly a troll who has driven bugger all cars and just repeats what the biggest bloke in the pub says.
Naff off and let the adults have a serious discussion.
Of course im an idiot , you say so
Ive been on PH now 92 months and a moderator so that makes me a troll?
and ive driven plenty of cars over the years thanks.
But please .. handles better than 90% of cars on the road ?
Driven them all have we to come up with that comparison ?
its still a rebodied golf platform that if you take the spoiler off and drive at high speed it becomes unstable simple as .
just been to the pub to confirm it .
Considering that 90% of cars on the road are rubbish like Kia Picanto's and 1992 Vauxall Cavaliers it does handle better than 90%
Heres a challennge then, if you so sure that a shopping trolley handles better then any circuit in the country, me in a standard TT and you in a standard Tesco shopping trolley, I'll take any wager that the TT (even with the wing removed) will get round quicker....
As a moderator frankly I'd think you'd come out with less ridiculous statements.
Interesting thread.
I'm on the hunt for a new car and unsure what to get - having a dilema between excitement and sensibility!!!
I've been thinking about things like a 120D )3dr - must be a 3dr! or A3 2.0 TDI Sport, again 3dr (I'm tall and otherwise the B Pillar restricts vision with the seat back, and lets face it they look better too!
However I've always been tempted by a 240 Sport TT - but have some questions both about its perception and running costs. I view the 240 as a 'special' TT likely always to be the most desirable and probably the most resiliant in terms of value - a bit like the MK4 Golf R32 - has an element of future classic about it that I don't think the 'conventional' TT will have due o the production numbers. However, despite that does it get branded as a bit 'batty'?
I'd be really interested to hear from anyone about running costs etc. I've heard there are a few bits to look out for - such as dash, ARB bushes, MAF etc but would be interested to hear an owners perception, particularly relating to the practicality of running the car on a daily basis.
I just can't resist the temptation for something a little 'special'! I'm not sure I want a diesel A3!
ETA: What a great buy the first car listed in this thread was - Genuine 19" BBS LM splits in TT fitment with rubber are c.£1750 new!
I'm on the hunt for a new car and unsure what to get - having a dilema between excitement and sensibility!!!
I've been thinking about things like a 120D )3dr - must be a 3dr! or A3 2.0 TDI Sport, again 3dr (I'm tall and otherwise the B Pillar restricts vision with the seat back, and lets face it they look better too!
However I've always been tempted by a 240 Sport TT - but have some questions both about its perception and running costs. I view the 240 as a 'special' TT likely always to be the most desirable and probably the most resiliant in terms of value - a bit like the MK4 Golf R32 - has an element of future classic about it that I don't think the 'conventional' TT will have due o the production numbers. However, despite that does it get branded as a bit 'batty'?
I'd be really interested to hear from anyone about running costs etc. I've heard there are a few bits to look out for - such as dash, ARB bushes, MAF etc but would be interested to hear an owners perception, particularly relating to the practicality of running the car on a daily basis.
I just can't resist the temptation for something a little 'special'! I'm not sure I want a diesel A3!
ETA: What a great buy the first car listed in this thread was - Genuine 19" BBS LM splits in TT fitment with rubber are c.£1750 new!
Edited by TimCrighton on Wednesday 5th August 14:44
I've got an '01 225 roadster, and as 'standard' cars go, it's more than acceptable and a very pleasant place to be. I'd rather not get drawn in to the discussions that it's a Golf in a frock/doesn't handle well etc, because at the end of the day, it's a comfortable, reasonably quick car, that doesn't throw you into the ditch when pressing on or you hit a wet white line.
In terms of looks, I think it's still one of the better looking cars out there, and mine's nearly a decade old now. In terms of comfort, the cabin is a nice place to be, the switch gear is well laid out, the seats are comfy, the BOSE sound system is excellent and the quality of the materials is generally of a very high standard. We've just clocked over 105k in ours now, having had it at 21k and 4 yrs old. The trim is still intact, there's little to no creaking and rattling and everything still works (including the inexplicably hot seat heaters!). However, there have been a few little niggles over the last 80+k miles. I've had a number of bushes replaced, a new battery, 3 suspension coils have broken independently of each other, the clutch pedal assembly went, I've got an airbag warning light on that doesn't show up on VAGCOM, and I think my dashpod is on its way out again for the 2nd time. In my experience, Audi aren't particularly great to deal with, but find a good independent and stick with them.
Other things to watch out for are the service history and ensuring the Haldex has had its oil and filters changed when needed. I don't think that the 3.2's have the same issue with the cambelt/waterpump that the 1.8's have, but worth checking this with someone who's got a V6. In terms of running costs and living with it, my insurance is <£400 with 3-points and 1 claim in the last year, and mpg is 25-31 depending on how it gets driven. I've done multi-hundred mile trips, and used to commute from Swansea to Swindon in it daily - no issues at all.
The 240 is a factory-tweaked 225, with bucket seats, a carbon roof, roll-cage and no rear seats. I think it makes it a bit less easy to use on a daily basis, given how easily you can get a standard 225 chipped to 260-280bhp.
The 3.2 is a lovely engine, but as it's significantly heavier, it does compromise the handling somewhat. If you want something to cruise about and take the commute in its stride, then it's a great combination. If you want a bit more fun, then a tuned 225 is the better bet.
Would I change anything about mine? Yes, of course I would. First off would be a pair of Defcon adapters and bushes, and maybe a set of ARB's from the R32. I'd get it chipped up to 280-300bhp, and lower the suspension (mine's the one of the early one's before the factory dropped the height as standard). Finally, I'd put a Haldex performance controller in.
Is it the best 2 seater roadster out there? No. Is it the best 2+2 coupe out there? No. Is it only for those batting for the other team? Don't be stupid. However, it is more than perfectly acceptable, and with the prices as low as they are today, I think it's a good buy.
Jep
(a 20-something straight bloke when he bought his)
In terms of looks, I think it's still one of the better looking cars out there, and mine's nearly a decade old now. In terms of comfort, the cabin is a nice place to be, the switch gear is well laid out, the seats are comfy, the BOSE sound system is excellent and the quality of the materials is generally of a very high standard. We've just clocked over 105k in ours now, having had it at 21k and 4 yrs old. The trim is still intact, there's little to no creaking and rattling and everything still works (including the inexplicably hot seat heaters!). However, there have been a few little niggles over the last 80+k miles. I've had a number of bushes replaced, a new battery, 3 suspension coils have broken independently of each other, the clutch pedal assembly went, I've got an airbag warning light on that doesn't show up on VAGCOM, and I think my dashpod is on its way out again for the 2nd time. In my experience, Audi aren't particularly great to deal with, but find a good independent and stick with them.
Other things to watch out for are the service history and ensuring the Haldex has had its oil and filters changed when needed. I don't think that the 3.2's have the same issue with the cambelt/waterpump that the 1.8's have, but worth checking this with someone who's got a V6. In terms of running costs and living with it, my insurance is <£400 with 3-points and 1 claim in the last year, and mpg is 25-31 depending on how it gets driven. I've done multi-hundred mile trips, and used to commute from Swansea to Swindon in it daily - no issues at all.
The 240 is a factory-tweaked 225, with bucket seats, a carbon roof, roll-cage and no rear seats. I think it makes it a bit less easy to use on a daily basis, given how easily you can get a standard 225 chipped to 260-280bhp.
The 3.2 is a lovely engine, but as it's significantly heavier, it does compromise the handling somewhat. If you want something to cruise about and take the commute in its stride, then it's a great combination. If you want a bit more fun, then a tuned 225 is the better bet.
Would I change anything about mine? Yes, of course I would. First off would be a pair of Defcon adapters and bushes, and maybe a set of ARB's from the R32. I'd get it chipped up to 280-300bhp, and lower the suspension (mine's the one of the early one's before the factory dropped the height as standard). Finally, I'd put a Haldex performance controller in.
Is it the best 2 seater roadster out there? No. Is it the best 2+2 coupe out there? No. Is it only for those batting for the other team? Don't be stupid. However, it is more than perfectly acceptable, and with the prices as low as they are today, I think it's a good buy.
Jep
(a 20-something straight bloke when he bought his)
DennisTheMenace said:
Quite true , but saying it out handles 90% of cars on the road , come on , does the owners guide start with once apon a time ...
It's not strictly the argument in question because I drive an S3 but its basically the same car. I've done only very mild tweaks to the handling (wider tires, eibach springs and anti-roll bars) maybe £1000 of modifications if the alloys weren't silly money and I have never had or been in a car that has more grip. I wouldn't say its the best handling car I've ever driven the TVR Cerbera was the most engaging, communacative, fun and responsive car I've ever driven but when the S3 is on the limit riding totally on 3 wheels with a little tail angle and all the tires loaded up (like this morning) nothing I've been in could keep with it. I am very happy to meet up and test that with anyone who feels the desire to prove me wrong. There's a drink in it for the man that can pull away from me in a corner on road tires;)
TimCrighton said:
ETA: What a great buy the first car listed in this thread was - Genuine 19" BBS LM splits in TT fitment with rubber are c.£1750 new!
They're not real LM's, real ones have a small BBS stamp on the wheel face around the bolt holes, like this:
Fake:
Notice there is no stamp.
Real 19" LM's are more like £3.5k with tyres.
Well, I'm learning from this thread.
I've learnt that the Mk1 TT is indeed a capable, GVFM sports car expecially when easily remapped to give 260-270bhp.
With a few tweeks the handling can be improved to make a very good daily driver that I believe will one day make classic status.
For the reasons above I am able to lessen my 'fashonable' perceptions of the TT and recognise it for what it is, a very good allrounder that can be largely improved with a few well planned modificatuions. It's styling was revolutionary when it was released but over time our eyes have got used to the shape so it makes less of an impact. I think in black with black wheels they can look quite stealth and purposeful.
I've learnt that the Mk1 TT is indeed a capable, GVFM sports car expecially when easily remapped to give 260-270bhp.
With a few tweeks the handling can be improved to make a very good daily driver that I believe will one day make classic status.
For the reasons above I am able to lessen my 'fashonable' perceptions of the TT and recognise it for what it is, a very good allrounder that can be largely improved with a few well planned modificatuions. It's styling was revolutionary when it was released but over time our eyes have got used to the shape so it makes less of an impact. I think in black with black wheels they can look quite stealth and purposeful.
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