B8 S4 Ownership

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VeegasRS6

367 posts

157 months

Wednesday 16th November 2016
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Dr G said:
Still very likely the best all-rounder Audi ever built.
I've come to that conclusion as well.

Just put a deposit down on a B8 S4 avant, trying to get the balance right on performance versus running cost, this will be my 1st B8, but 3rd S4 and I keep coming back to them as this, the best all rounder.

Ive got a weekend car for driving dynamics, so that is covered, but this is to give the day to day drive a bit of interest.

I think ive managed to get my perfect spec, and popped up less than 30 miles away so seemed fated!

Dr G

15,173 posts

242 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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That's a bit of a result! smile

VeegasRS6

367 posts

157 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Dr G said:
That's a bit of a result! smile
Isn't it just!

60k, FASH
Super sport seats,
Sports Diff
Active Suspension
Open sky pan Roof
Keyless
Tech pack high
Adaptive lights & cruise
Deep sea blue pearl



Edited by VeegasRS6 on Sunday 20th November 15:42

apreading

49 posts

90 months

Saturday 19th November 2016
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Looks great! Although I do prefer the facelift, the original was great too.

I would have loved adaptive cruise but it seems hard to find. I like the wheels - better than the S-Line wheels that so many have in my opinion. Pano-sunroof looks fantastic but as I and my family are so tall, we couldnt have one as we need the headroom.

DTB77

110 posts

132 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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LocoBlade said:
Also ask to supply your own oil. Some dealerships allow it and given they charge over £20 per litre and it needs 7 litres (I think?), you'll save a good £70-80 if you buy the correct spec oil from somewhere like Opie Oils.

The last fixed annual oil change service at Portsmouth Audi with me supplying the oil was only £130, plus about £50 for 7 litres of Mobil 1 ESP 5w30 from Opie

Edited by LocoBlade on Monday 7th November 20:12
Just to update on my first service which was carried out yesterday - went with my local main dealer in Aylesbury for convenience, which quoted £409, however, supplied my own oil (£58) and total bill from Audi came to only £226, so saving of around £125 from supplying my own oil (from Opie as LocoBlade suggested).

No complaints with the service - really liked the 'under-the-car' video they supplied which gave an overview of the state of the brakes/tyres/suspension etc, and quite enjoyed the A1 courtesy car, much more chuckable than the S4!

apreading

49 posts

90 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Anyone else looking to get their own oil, you could get Quantum Longlife 3, which is apparently what Audi use, at £18.99 for 5 litres here:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Quantum-Longlife-5W-30-F...

catso

14,787 posts

267 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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apreading said:
Pano-sunroof looks fantastic but as I and my family are so tall, we couldnt have one as we need the headroom.
How tall are you? My car has the sunroof and at 6' I'm nowhere near touching it with my head & neither is my Son who's 6'2".

Unless you also have the seat on it's highest position with the backrest vertical, you'd have to be mighty long in the body to be touching the roof...

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Wednesday 23rd November 2016
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Wow thats a good saving, glad it worked out smile
DTB77 said:
Just to update on my first service which was carried out yesterday - went with my local main dealer in Aylesbury for convenience, which quoted £409, however, supplied my own oil (£58) and total bill from Audi came to only £226, so saving of around £125 from supplying my own oil (from Opie as LocoBlade suggested).

mattb46

241 posts

135 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Whats the general consensus on the reliability of the gearbox on these cars? I have provisionally bought a 2012 S4 avant with super low miles (less than 5k) but find the stories of £8-12k gearbox bills are making me lose sleep over the decision

silentbrown

8,832 posts

116 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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mattb46 said:
Whats the general consensus on the reliability of the gearbox on these cars? I have provisionally bought a 2012 S4 avant with super low miles (less than 5k) but find the stories of £8-12k gearbox bills are making me lose sleep over the decision
Main dealer, private or trade seller? I'd check that the service book is up to date for the time-based services. If the Stronic goes bang there's still a chance of goodwill from Audi if the history is good.

STronic oil doesn't seem have a time-based change interval, but a precautionary oil change wouldn't go amiss.

mattb46

241 posts

135 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Thanks very much Silent. The car has been stored for approx 2 years and the mileage is so low (less than 2k) that its never been serviced. It was first regd Sept 12. Its a trade sale.

apreading

49 posts

90 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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Just make sure its not a write-off that has been repaired. Many of the low mileage ones like that seem to be Cat-D.

Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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+1 take a paint depth gauge when you inspect and make sure it's all consistent depth.

Gearbox is reliable by that point - only early ones (2009) seem to fail due to lacking one of the oil filters.

silentbrown

8,832 posts

116 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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mattb46 said:
The car has been stored for approx 2 years and the mileage is so low (less than 2k) that its never been serviced. It was first regd Sept 12. Its a trade sale.
You'll have little chance of Audi goodwill in the event of a problem. It should have been serviced at least twice by now. I'd factor that into the price.

Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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That's a good point - if it's never been serviced but the service indicator (there are 2) is saying it's not due on time grounds, then someone has reset it

LocoBlade

7,622 posts

256 months

Thursday 1st December 2016
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The 2012 onwards facelift had a newer version of the mechatronics unit as well, which seems much more reliable. 5k miles on a 2012 car though, do your homework on it's history THOROUGHLY!

mattb46

241 posts

135 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Thanks very much for the responses and advice, much appreciated

The reason I ask re the gearbox was that I noticed when I test drove it that from cold, it was initially slightly reluctant to reverse: it didn't want to start to reverse with just a tickle of the throttle and I had to dial in 2-3k to get it going. It didn't suddenly leap back with that throttle input and thereafter didn't need as much throttle. In every other respect the gearbox worked perfectly on my test drive with no clunks, noises, shifting problems or anything else that I noticed. Im told that this symptom could be nothing and is not consistent with a mechatronic unit problem by Unit 20. However Ive also been told the opposite by a forum member. The cost to sort using ecutesting.com to repair the existing mechatronic unit and then re-fit would I suspect be approx £1500-2000 I think. I can live that provided thats the end of its troubles. Its the gearbox Im nervous about though as what is currently a bargain, could quickly cease to be one....

fastgerman

1,914 posts

195 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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Hi All,

Started using my S4 again recently (2015 Black Edition Avant), its a great car and very different to the S5 (early 4.2 V8). One thing I had forgotten is how much the car pulls you around on uneven roads. Does anyone else get this? I haven't ticked the dynamic steering option so just standard, whatever that is.

On a plus side, it really does shift! It feels a fair bit quicker than the S5 but could be down to the torque and double clutch auto box.

I hear the new S4 is a single clutch slush box again?

Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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mattb46 said:
Thanks very much for the responses and advice, much appreciated

The reason I ask re the gearbox was that I noticed when I test drove it that from cold, it was initially slightly reluctant to reverse: it didn't want to start to reverse with just a tickle of the throttle and I had to dial in 2-3k to get it going. It didn't suddenly leap back with that throttle input and thereafter didn't need as much throttle. In every other respect the gearbox worked perfectly on my test drive with no clunks, noises, shifting problems or anything else that I noticed. Im told that this symptom could be nothing and is not consistent with a mechatronic unit problem by Unit 20. However Ive also been told the opposite by a forum member. The cost to sort using ecutesting.com to repair the existing mechatronic unit and then re-fit would I suspect be approx £1500-2000 I think. I can live that provided thats the end of its troubles. Its the gearbox Im nervous about though as what is currently a bargain, could quickly cease to be one....
Assuming it doesn't have hill hold assist, putting it into R and releasing the brake with the steering straight should result in the car moving of its own accord on level ground. If you're having to dial in revs well above idle then there's something very wrong.

If that was my money I think I'd run away and find another

Adrian E

3,248 posts

176 months

Friday 2nd December 2016
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fastgerman said:
Hi All,

Started using my S4 again recently (2015 Black Edition Avant), its a great car and very different to the S5 (early 4.2 V8). One thing I had forgotten is how much the car pulls you around on uneven roads. Does anyone else get this? I haven't ticked the dynamic steering option so just standard, whatever that is.

On a plus side, it really does shift! It feels a fair bit quicker than the S5 but could be down to the torque and double clutch auto box.

I hear the new S4 is a single clutch slush box again?
Dynamic steering just varies the weight at the steering wheel - nothing fancy and personally not a fan (we have it on the S5) Pull on uneven roads will almost certainly be tyre related. If you're below 3-4mm of tread it'll be more noticeable

New S4/5 is indeed a ZF torque converter auto - it's a much more robust box and generally a match for the s-tronic. I've tried it in a C7 RS6 and it worked well. It is a LOT more modern than the 6 speed auto you may have on your S5 V8