Two new tyres, front or rear?

Two new tyres, front or rear?

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TooLateForAName

4,751 posts

184 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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At any time vehicle stability and control is the most important thing. It isnt very often that people need to stop hard in a simple straight line, you would generally be trying to avoid something at the same time as stopping. If you lose stability then you are not avoiding anything.

The idea that in the event of some sort of situation involving loss of control you can just power out of it is, frankly, laughable.

  • All* the experts agree, new tyres on the back.

Sticks.

8,764 posts

251 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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TooLateForAName said:
a)It isnt very often that people need to stop hard in a simple straight line, you would generally be trying to avoid something at the same time as stopping.

b) The idea that in the event of some sort of situation involving loss of control you can just power out of it is, frankly, laughable.
Re a) but when you do it's important, like not hitting the car in front, so best stopping distance is optimum isn't it? What do all the experts say about that?

b) Wasn't saying that, quite agree. Meant cars which are designed to understeer will do so more easily in the wet relative to tread depth.

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Tame Technician

2,467 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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TooLateForAName said:
The idea that in the event of some sort of situation involving loss of control you can just power out of it is, frankly, laughable.
Have you ever driven a front wheel drive car???

Thats the first thing you do if the rear starts to slide.

OK - Unless you are already breaking very hard then it would be release the brakes slightly, not off just a bit of pedal modulation.

Cant see anything laughable about that at all.

JuniorD

8,627 posts

223 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Might this thread be moved to General Gassing, I feel it may be of interest to the wider PH audience and not just VAG?

Sticks.

8,764 posts

251 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Yes. I've put it in the Advanced Driving section if that's ok.

Tame Technician

2,467 posts

204 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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I havnt checked yet, but I'd be prety sure the "advanced drivers" would be with me and have the best ones up front.

As I said before, the best ones on the rear advise, is the safest (by safest I mean, more vehicle stability in the wet, not improved braking) for the average motorist, people who have probably never had there car slide in there life and wouldnt have a clue what to do if it did.

On a similar line, if slightly off topic, It amuses me the highway code still says lift off if the rear goes, now 95% of cars are front wheel drive thats the most dangerous bit of advise you could give.

T89 Callan

8,422 posts

193 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Sticks. said:
So the tyres you're relying on the most for wet weather braking are not as important as the back ones? Setting aside anything else, how does that work?

Having been through the claims process after an accident, I feel fairly sure that an insurance company would try and reduce its liability in a wet weather accident rrelative to the tread on your fronts.
What the hell are you talking about?

Are you saying that an insurance company would reduce the payout if you had less tread on the front tyres? Don't be so ridiculous.

If your tyres are legal and the correct size/rating then they can't do a thing.

And I'm pretty sure that an insurance company would agree with the advice from the car maker and the tyre maker anyway I.E Best tyres on the rear.

Sorry pal but if you think that you know better than the worlds OEMs and the worlds tyre makers than you are either very big-headed or very deluded.

TooLateForAName

4,751 posts

184 months

Wednesday 16th December 2009
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Tame Technician said:
TooLateForAName said:
The idea that in the event of some sort of situation involving loss of control you can just power out of it is, frankly, laughable.
Have you ever driven a front wheel drive car???

Thats the first thing you do if the rear starts to slide.

OK - Unless you are already breaking very hard then it would be release the brakes slightly, not off just a bit of pedal modulation.

Cant see anything laughable about that at all.
The point is that when the situation becomes untenable you are not generally in a position to power out of trouble - far more likely to be powering into it. Unless you are only looking at this from the point of view of yourself overcooking it on clear roads when your proposal is reasonable - ish (if we neglect the foolishness of overcooking it on public roads, thats what tracks are for).

And while the faster cars I've driven have been rear or awd, I have driven a few fwd cars. In audi terms 80/90/100/A4/A6.