MK6 GTI or R?????
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hi all, new to forum!!!! Will be in the market later this year for a MK6 peformance golf......from PERSONAL experience which is the better bet???? does the R command a 6k price premium over the GTI????? i know about 4WD etc.....but the GTI has received great reviews about its agility and traction soooo is 4WD really warranted?????? thanks all for any feedback/advice.
Definitely the GTi - can be just as quick if remapped and comes with the new version of the 2L Turbo engine (the R uses the old block from the MK5)
The other problem with the R is the lack of kit it comes with, as soon as you specify a few bits and pieces, the price difference between that and the GTi becomes bigger.
The other problem with the R is the lack of kit it comes with, as soon as you specify a few bits and pieces, the price difference between that and the GTi becomes bigger.
thanks guys!!!!! im thinkin GTI to be honest.....the S3??? handsome car and beautifully built....YET it always gets reviews like "fast but boring", "numb and soulless" and slated for its lack of driver involvement....Are these criticisms well founded and true???? having never drove one myself i cant comment at all!!!!
richellis1974 said:
from PERSONAL experience which is the better bet????
I think you'll be hard pushed to find many people with personal experience of the R. All the dealers I've spoken to don't expect to get demonstrators until March / April. So testing an S3 is your best bet for getting a feel for the engine.I was seriously tempted to hold out for an R. But then I specced one to a modest standard on the VW configurator and it came to a smidge under £36k. And that's crazy money for a Golf. So instead I'm getting a 12 month old R32 for half that amount. Hoping to collect on Saturday.
My old 4Motion has been excellent over the winter and, in my view, has justified the decision to carry on with 4wd. And I think the R32 / R looks a bit more special (and is rather less ubiquitous) than the GTI. And the R32 sounds fantastic. Admittedly, its a MkV rather than MkVI, but for a £18k saving I really don't care.
Each to their own, of course!
Edited by wrighty78 on Thursday 28th January 17:38
richellis1974 said:
thanks guys!!!!! im thinkin GTI to be honest.....the S3??? handsome car and beautifully built....YET it always gets reviews like "fast but boring", "numb and soulless" and slated for its lack of driver involvement....Are these criticisms well founded and true???? having never drove one myself i cant comment at all!!!!
and the Golf R seems to be more of the same...i just have reservations about the pricing policy at VW these days!!!!! a decently specced Golf R will be nearly 40k!!!!!! used E90 M3 saloons are going for 38-36k these days!!!!!! CANNOT see the logic in the price...Oh and about the Mk5 R32.....Lovely sound, plush motor but TOO thirsty and(so i hear) WAY too heavy and NOSE heavy in particular with that V6 up front.......
richellis1974 said:
Oh and about the Mk5 R32.....Lovely sound, plush motor but TOO thirsty and(so i hear) WAY too heavy and NOSE heavy in particular with that V6 up front.......
Hmmm. You might be right, but... On the fuel consumption point my take on it is that (a) it isn't going to be any thirstier than the Z4MC and 4Mot that I'm coming out of and (b) is the R actually going to be significantly less thirsty than the R32? I know the published stats give the R an extra 7 or 8 mpg but, as we all know, the official stats for turbo charged engines are always unobtainable in the real world. The gearing is such that the figures are achieved off-boost. If you can manage anything like the published figures, you'll be doing very, very well and driving like granny.
And as for being nose heavy... Even if you're right, I doubt it'll make any difference in 99% of the driving I do in it. It seems to me that you can drive around this anyway. Easy in and fast out is usually the way with 4wd, and it certainly works in the 4Mot.
And if you have a squizz at Tiff's testdrive of the 130i and the R32, you'll see he seemed to quite like the handling. In fact, here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0rKuHe_VHM
I have to agree on the VW pricing, I just don't get it. I've got a 2006 R32 that I bought brand new in 2006 and to get a similar spec. on the new R you're looking at £8k more than I pain in 2006.
I too would recommend going down the 2nd hand R32 route as teh V6 is just lovely especially when connected to DSG. Yes, it's a bit thirsty and yes the road tax is over £400 but that'll be easily covered 10 times over with the money you'll save on the purchase price.
On the handling, yes it does understeer a bit due to being nose heavy but it's still pretty damn good and it can be improved by a £500 Haldex controller which biases more drive to the rear
I too would recommend going down the 2nd hand R32 route as teh V6 is just lovely especially when connected to DSG. Yes, it's a bit thirsty and yes the road tax is over £400 but that'll be easily covered 10 times over with the money you'll save on the purchase price.
On the handling, yes it does understeer a bit due to being nose heavy but it's still pretty damn good and it can be improved by a £500 Haldex controller which biases more drive to the rear
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