High miler VAG diesels?
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VAG Diesels - apparently quite strong long-lasting engines.
What sort of mileage are you on?
My Ibiza Cupra TDI, October 2004 model, is just touching, or will be tomorrow, 80k. A lad at work couldn't believe it and was saying i'll have to replace anytime soon. But i've always planned to keep it to 150k. So it's just over half way!
What sort of mileage are you on?
My Ibiza Cupra TDI, October 2004 model, is just touching, or will be tomorrow, 80k. A lad at work couldn't believe it and was saying i'll have to replace anytime soon. But i've always planned to keep it to 150k. So it's just over half way!
sider said:
VAG Diesels - apparently quite strong long-lasting engines.
What sort of mileage are you on?
My Ibiza Cupra TDI, October 2004 model, is just touching, or will be tomorrow, 80k. A lad at work couldn't believe it and was saying i'll have to replace anytime soon. But i've always planned to keep it to 150k. So it's just over half way!
80k is nothing these days - with the correct servicing most modern engines will last 200k without much effort. The days of throwing a car away at 100k are over.What sort of mileage are you on?
My Ibiza Cupra TDI, October 2004 model, is just touching, or will be tomorrow, 80k. A lad at work couldn't believe it and was saying i'll have to replace anytime soon. But i've always planned to keep it to 150k. So it's just over half way!
So far so good.
I was hesitant of buying my car, at 47k. But loving it so far. Do miss not having a warranty cover as i was always in sub 4 yr old company cars previous so everything was covered and paid for FOC.
Do you still think they drop a lot of money in terms of residual values around the 100k mark?
To be honest, i'd be very reluctant to buy a 100k mile car as a daily driver. Maybe an old M3 as a weekend toy that would have minimal use.
I was hesitant of buying my car, at 47k. But loving it so far. Do miss not having a warranty cover as i was always in sub 4 yr old company cars previous so everything was covered and paid for FOC.
Do you still think they drop a lot of money in terms of residual values around the 100k mark?
To be honest, i'd be very reluctant to buy a 100k mile car as a daily driver. Maybe an old M3 as a weekend toy that would have minimal use.
My Fabia vRS is only on about 51k... so not that high. All the local taxis are Octavias with starship mileage though (200-300k or more - some turbo, some SDI)
The 1.9s are tough engines with regular servicing and oil changes. Similar to the old Peugeot/Citroen 1.9 XUD engines that would go on and on while the car disintegrated around them.
Anything over 10 years old generally would be over 100k just by doing average mileage, and it isn't neccessarily a terrible thing - as long as it has been cared for!
The 1.9s are tough engines with regular servicing and oil changes. Similar to the old Peugeot/Citroen 1.9 XUD engines that would go on and on while the car disintegrated around them.
Anything over 10 years old generally would be over 100k just by doing average mileage, and it isn't neccessarily a terrible thing - as long as it has been cared for!
Edited by Hub on Sunday 21st February 11:52
See, this is tricky. I'm sure the internals of the engine will be fine if it's had regular oil changes, but I'm not convinced about the long-term reliability of the external components: the turbo, the fuel pump, valves and vents, the electronics etc. When people talk about high-mileage cars still running like the day they were made, are they accepting that some of these fundamental items will not last as long as the crank, pistons, heads etc. and will need service replacement to achieve these high mileages?
My own 150k mile V6 TDI doesn't burn oil but from what I've read, I shouldn't be surprised if at some point the fuel pump fails, or the turbo needs a full strip-down or replacement, or the (Tiptronic) gearbox sts its pants, or some other fundamental thing goes wrong. These items just don't seem to last 200k+ miles and as the efficiency and power output levels of diesel engines rise even further, these components become even more highly-strung and prone to failure.
The days of low-performance engines pootling along untouched for half a million miles are past us. Claiming that modern cars can run forever is all very well, but if I've got to spend £1000+ each year for repairs as bits fail then the whole thing becomes more like Trigger's broom than evidence of VAG reliability.
My own 150k mile V6 TDI doesn't burn oil but from what I've read, I shouldn't be surprised if at some point the fuel pump fails, or the turbo needs a full strip-down or replacement, or the (Tiptronic) gearbox sts its pants, or some other fundamental thing goes wrong. These items just don't seem to last 200k+ miles and as the efficiency and power output levels of diesel engines rise even further, these components become even more highly-strung and prone to failure.
The days of low-performance engines pootling along untouched for half a million miles are past us. Claiming that modern cars can run forever is all very well, but if I've got to spend £1000+ each year for repairs as bits fail then the whole thing becomes more like Trigger's broom than evidence of VAG reliability.
Yeah, tis the electronics and emissions control crap that goes wrong on modern diesels
Petrols will cover equally massive mileage without worrying. My Golf did 140k before a stupid mistake by the previous owner caused it to borewash and smoke, otherwise I don't doubt it would have done the 220k+ a friend's 16v is now on. Mate with a 928 on about 260k now... My 20vt on 103 and showing no signs of its age, doesn't even burn oil... Had a 540i chopped in a while back that was scruffy but mechanically perfect at 248k...
Petrols will cover equally massive mileage without worrying. My Golf did 140k before a stupid mistake by the previous owner caused it to borewash and smoke, otherwise I don't doubt it would have done the 220k+ a friend's 16v is now on. Mate with a 928 on about 260k now... My 20vt on 103 and showing no signs of its age, doesn't even burn oil... Had a 540i chopped in a while back that was scruffy but mechanically perfect at 248k...
Thing with mine is - i've done a big bit of spending on it to get it where it is - so plan to keep using it.
I did the cambelt and waterpump at 55k - which was around the 4 yrs old mark.
Clutch started to slip at around 72k - so thats good til at least 140k. I could've managed a bit longer really but decided to get it sorted.
As someone said earlier, other big thing is the turbo - but (touching wood) so far no sign of any blue smoke or any other issue.
So, the above two items cost me circa £1100 - would be silly to sell now having spent so much - when there will be similar models out there on 80k without either done!
Trigger's broom comment really made me laugh too by the way!
I did the cambelt and waterpump at 55k - which was around the 4 yrs old mark.
Clutch started to slip at around 72k - so thats good til at least 140k. I could've managed a bit longer really but decided to get it sorted.
As someone said earlier, other big thing is the turbo - but (touching wood) so far no sign of any blue smoke or any other issue.
So, the above two items cost me circa £1100 - would be silly to sell now having spent so much - when there will be similar models out there on 80k without either done!
Trigger's broom comment really made me laugh too by the way!
Escort2dr said:
sider said:
So, the above two items cost me circa £1100 - would be silly to sell now having spent so much - when there will be similar models out there on 80k without either done!
200K achievable on original clutch/exhaust/turbo easily.Gassing Station | Audi, Seat, Skoda & VW | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff