VW and Blackberry Bluetooth

[davemac250]

I have been digging around but cannot find a definitive answer.

Has there been a patch released for the VW phone system to enable it to link to a blackberry?

(Or my iPhone for that matter?)

Last time I asked I managed to get lucky and be given a phone that worked.

This was upgraded by work and guess what? the new one will not connect all the time.

Thanks

[trix-a-belle]

im guessing you've got the factory fitted rSap bluetooth system Dave? (the one most VW salesmen don't realise isn't actually 'proper' bluetooth)

VW have only just this year (early june/week 22) changed their factory fitted bluetooth from rSap (a nokia thing) to full bluetooth. The options people have who have the rsap version but want to revise it are:
- change the rsap box under the passenger seat out for the new bluetooth box or the Skoda bluetooth box
- fit fiscon or the like as retrofit

let me know if you want parts numbers as I have access to them on my other 'home'

Hope that explains it

S

[davemac250]

trix-a-belle said:

im guessing you've got the factory fitted rSap bluetooth system Dave? (the one most VW salesmen don't realise isn't actually 'proper' bluetooth)

VW have only just this year (early june/week 22) changed their factory fitted bluetooth from rSap (a nokia thing) to full bluetooth. The options people have who have the rsap version but want to revise it are:
- change the rsap box under the passenger seat out for the new bluetooth box or the Skoda bluetooth box
- fit fiscon or the like as retrofit

let me know if you want parts numbers as I have access to them on my other 'home'

Hope that explains it

S

Super, the parts numbers would be great.

Am sure work will pick up the tab as they insisted on the full telcom package whilst I wanted a Parrot system.

[trix-a-belle]

part numbers:
- New VW bluetooth box (replaces rSap box under passenger seat) 7P6 035 730 C (supports A2DP)
- Skoda box (replaces rSap box under passenger seat) 1C0 035 729C (does not support A2DP)

not sure on fitting prices. obivously they could still just fit you parrot/bury/fiscon which would quite possibly work out cheaper

S

[davemac250]

That is great.

Thanks

[tonymurphy30]

Hi,

Can anyone confirm that the new BT units are being fitted to VW's?

I've just held up the lease of 10 VW Passat's because of information found regarding the rSAP issue and iPhones.

All engineers in our company use iPhones and I, and a lot of other guys, chosen Passat's with bluetooth as new company cars.

I'm assuming that any car ordered in the next two weeks will be fitted with the new HFV kit as they probably won;t even get built for another month!

The VW Passat PDF now states

"The Bluetooth telephone preparation system with detachable 2.8 inch touch-screen allows you to make and receive telephone calls
without having to take your eyes off the road. It acts as an interface of the mobile phone menu connected to it and is compatible with
most Bluetooth enabled phones†, including iPod and Blackberry."

I'm assuming it means the iPhone! But the fact they specify blackberry's which also hate RSAP is encouraging.

Cheers

Tony

[trix-a-belle]

Tony

What they are describing there is the Bury bluetooth kit (rebranded as VW) which is retrofitted, it is not the factory fit kit which has been the rSap only kit up till recently. (Bury bluetooth kit example http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/...)

The factory fit bluetooth kit is incorporated into the radio headunit & does not have any sort of additional screen.

S

[davemac250]

tonymurphy30 said:

Hi,

Can anyone confirm that the new BT units are being fitted to VW's?

I've just held up the lease of 10 VW Passat's because of information found regarding the rSAP issue and iPhones.

All engineers in our company use iPhones and I, and a lot of other guys, chosen Passat's with bluetooth as new company cars.

I'm assuming that any car ordered in the next two weeks will be fitted with the new HFV kit as they probably won;t even get built for another month!

The VW Passat PDF now states

"The Bluetooth telephone preparation system with detachable 2.8 inch touch-screen allows you to make and receive telephone calls
without having to take your eyes off the road. It acts as an interface of the mobile phone menu connected to it and is compatible with
most Bluetooth enabled phones†, including iPod and Blackberry."

I'm assuming it means the iPhone! But the fact they specify blackberry's which also hate RSAP is encouraging.

Cheers

Tony

Do not believe a word they say.

VW told me the same thing 18 months ago.

Yes you can get it to work on some Blackberry phones. And not by type, two handsets of the same model phone and one will work and one will not.

Don't expect full functionality.

Don't expect your phone not to switch off, lose sim connection or generally bugger around when you get out of the car.

Don't expect, even if you get a handset that works with the system that it will do it every time.

That is my experience so far. I was promised that there were patches being released (hence the thread) that have not materialised.

Do not bank on the reference to the Ipod not being correct as I CAN connect my iPod and control it, make sure they are not talking about this. My iPhone is listed as incompatible, maybe the iPhone 4 is different?

In hindsight the best thing to have done would have been to go and try a demo car and see if I could connect. But even then you run the risk of that being the 1 time out of 50 the bloody thing works.

[trix-a-belle]

Dave

yours as I understood is the factory fit (ie NO separate screen) Tony has a separate screen meaning its NOT the factory fit which has the rSap problem.

its the Bury kit which VW rebrand as their own this is bluetooth as everyone knows it, VW just confuse the issue by not explaining explaining it clearly, most likely to make more money palming it off as the factory fit (rsap) bluetooth kit.

S

[tonymurphy30]

Been into VW and been given a categoric assurance, we shall see!, that the Passatt Highline Plus bluetooth kit will work with the iPhone. There was a technician around too and he confirmed it also as it was the Bury kit.

It's when people as for the non Highline Plus models with BT that the problems occur.

We shall see, a few months to wait.

Cheers

Tony

[trix-a-belle]

if you are that worried about it Tony get it in writing from them that they confirm it will work with the iphone then if it turns up & doesn't they have to provide you with a solution that does work with it or refund you the cost of their fitment

S

[Steve996]

I just got a VW touch bluetooth kit fitted to my Scirocco yesterday and it connected 1st time to my blackberry and works fine with it. Just did a quick check with the Iphone too and it connected to it no probs.

[Deva Link]

tonymurphy30 said:

Been into VW and been given a categoric assurance, we shall see!, that the Passatt Highline Plus bluetooth kit will work with the iPhone.

See if they'll accept that "the car's standard fit bluetooth kit will be fully compatible with iPhone" or something similar as a condition on the order.