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gavgavgav

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1,265 posts

98 months

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Friday 23rd March 2012 quote quote all
(I reckon you guys who have had the body off would know this) I need to replace the flexible fuel pipe. Where abouts does the rubber pipe end after the fuel filter? I suspect it must go to a copper pipe somewhere, trying to figure out if I can get to it easily enough on axle stands. As far as I can see it disappears along the chassis around the exhaust plate.

carsy

1,281 posts

34 months

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Friday 23rd March 2012 quote quote all
The rubber pipe after the filter normally attaches to the copper pipe along the outer of the main chassis rail, basically directly beneath the filter near to where the outrigger attaches to the main chassis. You should be able to see it from underneath.

roseytvr

640 posts

47 months

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Friday 23rd March 2012 quote quote all
Just above the passenger rear arb mount

gavgavgav

Original Poster:

1,265 posts

98 months

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Friday 23rd March 2012 quote quote all
Ahh super, so it's just a job to take off the ARB to access the connection?

DarkMatter

956 posts

100 months

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Friday 23rd March 2012 quote quote all
gavgavgav said:
Ahh super, so it's just a job to take off the ARB to access the connection?
Yes, that's right.

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BliarOut

53,514 posts

108 months

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Friday 23rd March 2012 quote quote all
Do the engine bay ones when you're at it!!! They fail silently down near the bulkhead.

TJS10

230 posts

70 months

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Friday 6th July 2012 quote quote all
I reconnected the battery this morning ready to take the Griff for its annual MOT. The car has not been started for 8 months. The usual 4 second whirr of pumps and then the sound of liquid splashing on the garage floor followed by smell of fuel. Switched the ignition off, disconnected the battery and looked at a puddle of fuel underneath the car below the dash / rear of the engine. I will need to get the car collected by transporter and off to the local garage and onto their ramps to see what needs to be replaced.

Fuel pump is at the rear of the car ... so, perished hose or connection to the fuel rail ???

Upside, well at least it failed while in the garage at home and not when in use with hot exhaust, engine running, miles from home at night in the pouring rain.

TJS

BliarOut

53,514 posts

108 months

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Friday 6th July 2012 quote quote all
It's the flexible pipes from just above the clutch bell housing to the injector rail that have gone on yours. More fiddly than hard but I'd do every pipe while you're at it smile

TJS10

230 posts

70 months

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Saturday 7th July 2012 quote quote all
Thanks

i will order new rubber fuel pipes for the entire car. 4 metres enough? also what size, I think from looking a severeal TVR parts suppliers it is the 7.3 mm internal diameter rather than the 12mm internal diameter. I assume the pipe is held in place with stainless steel jubilee clips. How may per car ? two per length (3 lengths ?) = 6?

TJS

Simon says

9,311 posts

90 months

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Monday 9th July 2012 quote quote all
Dont use Jubilee clips (yes I know TVR did) they don't clamp evenly on such small bore hosing frown but you can just get 8mm I.D Fuel Inj hose this fits every fitting nice and snug smile I presume the car as no A/C fitted? try to stick with known good brands of hose like Codan, Pirelli, Goodyear ,sytec etc def not cheap un-branded stuff and certainly not the cloth over-braided stuff eek these can help for the hose http://www.fuelpumpsonline.co.uk/8mm-fuel-hose---s... or if you want spare http://www.auto-connect.co.uk/codan-fuel-injection... and http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-METER-OF-RUBBER-NETRIL... and the clips http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fuel-Hose-Clips-suits-13... it's a tedious job but a very important one teacher much easier with the intake plenum removed I might add smile


Edited by Simon says on Monday 9th July 11:51

TJS10

230 posts

70 months

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Tuesday 7th August 2012 quote quote all
What a bh of a job ! The TVR specialist that provided the hose also offered a complimentary packet of swear words, all of which were used.

It seems the length of the copper pipe varies between cars depending on either the mood of the fitter or available supply of pipe at the factory. Suffice to say the feed pipe on my car was only just reachable.

Tips for the future.

If you cant visibly see the copper pipe down the front of the bulkhead take the car the car to a TVR specialist and pay them to do the job. Also if you are right handed.

The pipes that eventually came off were 7mm diameter, replacements 7.3mm. Replace with the larger bore and proper fuel line clamps.

The originals were fitted (crushed) with jubilee clips which caused the leak

Unfasten and move the coolant pipes out of the way, you may lose an egg cup of fluid, also the connector to the stepper motor. Plenum stayed on.

Unbolt and move the bonnet lock mechanism for the pipe tucked neatly behind the rear of the rocker cover.

Buy a very long reach slotted screwdriver to get at the jubilee clips and long reach 6mm socket on flexible extension for the replacement fuel line clips. Long reach 12 inch pliers and second person to hold the copper pipe when refitting the rubber hose

Silicone spay and cup of very hot water to soak the end of the replacement hose will give you a fighting chance of getting the hose onto the pipe. Used mates cup of tea, it was Earl Grey, so the rubber didn't effect the taste.

Remove the bonnet (30 second job).

I did contemplate replacing the copper piping with stainless steel and extending the length to tuck neatly at the back to the engine below the plastic screen base. Maybe next time.

If you are a gynaecologist by profession and used to painting the hallway through your letter box you will love this job.

TJS


TJS10

230 posts

70 months

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Tuesday 7th August 2012 quote quote all
What a bh of a job ! The TVR specialist that provided the hose also offered a complimentary packet of swear words, all of which were used.

It seems the length of the copper pipe varies between cars depending on either the mood of the fitter or available supply of pipe at the factory. Suffice to say the feed pipe on my car was only just reachable.

Tips for the future.

If you cant visibly see the copper pipe down the front of the bulkhead take the car the car to a TVR specialist and pay them to do the job. Also if you are right handed.

The pipes that eventually came off were 7mm diameter, replacements 7.3mm. Replace with the larger bore and proper fuel line clamps.

The originals were fitted (crushed) with jubilee clips which caused the leak

Unfasten and move the coolant pipes out of the way, you may lose an egg cup of fluid, also the connector to the stepper motor. Plenum stayed on.

Unbolt and move the bonnet lock mechanism for the pipe tucked neatly behind the rear of the rocker cover.

Buy a very long reach slotted screwdriver to get at the jubilee clips and long reach 6mm socket on flexible extension for the replacement fuel line clips. Long reach 12 inch pliers and second person to hold the copper pipe when refitting the rubber hose

Silicone spay and cup of very hot water to soak the end of the replacement hose will give you a fighting chance of getting the hose onto the pipe. Used mates cup of tea, it was Earl Grey, so the rubber didn't effect the taste.

Remove the bonnet (30 second job).

I did contemplate replacing the copper piping with stainless steel and extending the length to tuck neatly at the back to the engine below the plastic screen base. Maybe next time.

If you are a gynaecologist by profession and used to painting the hallway through your letter box you will love this job.

TJS


Hedgehopper

582 posts

113 months

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Tuesday 7th August 2012 quote quote all
Amazes me that you did this job with the plenum in place. Ten minute job to move the plenum to one side complete with accel. linkeage, makes job relatively easy.

Marty V8

575 posts

55 months

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Tuesday 7th August 2012 quote quote all
Did you also replace the fuel line return to the tank whilst you were at it? Although its not subjected to the same pressure as the fuel supply pipe, it also gets the full heat treatment as well and is as liable to crack with age and heat.

TJS10

230 posts

70 months

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Wednesday 8th August 2012 quote quote all
The feed pipe was towards the offside of the car and the long reach tools could be threaded through the throttle mounting brackets if the rubber pipe between the intake and rear of the plenum was removed. The return pipe was also changed as a precaution which was wise as the over tightened jubilee clip had split the hose.

Rubber fuel hoses near the manifold seem rather scary so I will get some heat protective tubing to cover the pipes, the type secured by velcro so that it can be easily removed and the pipes regularly inspected.

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