outrigger protectors

[portzi]

bluezeeland said:

Portzi, I see you went the bolted route on the outrigger protectors, rather like em.. Plus they seem to do the job as intended !

Re the adjustable camber; is that an altered set off of the rear lower wishbone ?

Do like to go on track, now and again, but in essence a fast road driver, so not really concerned with more negative camber

Edited by bluezeeland on Tuesday 29th December 12:25

Hi Frank, l only do TVRCC track days including the one's abroad old timers and LE Man so probably only 6-8 track days a year so no negative camber to keep adjusting, but if you track your car alot like alot of Phers on here this system is an asset. The top mount to the top ball joint connecting it to the upright was a different taper to have to be machined out to suit which was easy, the hard part was getting a transition fit between top wishbone and adjusting sleeve for adjusting the camber. Sorry about picture not my car but shows the part to machine a bigger internal taper

http://thumbsnap.com/sc/nXUv8Zo1.jpg

[macdeb]

Excellent idea. Here's some I made a while back for my Chimaera from stainless steel with rubber backing so as not to interfere with the powder coating. A must in order to stop stones getting trapped between body and chassis which does the damage.

[bluezeeland]

macdeb said:

Excellent idea. Here's some I made a while back for my Chimaera from stainless steel with rubber backing so as not to interfere with the powder coating. A must in order to stop stones getting trapped between body and chassis which does the damage.

Nice ! Rubber backing, in strips ? closed cell ?

[PeteGriff]

stevesprint said:

I'm more interested in what looks like a camber adjuster bolt sitting on the top of the top ball joint. Any chance of a close up picture and an explanation.

Cheers
Steve

Hi Steve, funny you should mention a camber adjustment bolt! When I completed my wishbone and suspension refurbishment some 18 months ago I made some notes to effectively design a proper camber adjustment system, front and back! I intend to revisit this some time so will keep you posyed.

I really liked Franks outrigger protectors, I did have some ideas on having stainless items laser cut and formed to provide protection. Will be looking at this whilst my Griff is up on the lift for winter work! All the best, Pete

[Alan461]

Outrigger protectors will be on my list when this has been repaired, the old tube had been sleeved with larger tube and welded shut

[portzi]

Alan461 said:

Outrigger protectors will be on my list when this has been repaired, the old tube had been sleeved with larger tube and welded shut

Macs stainless ones look the best option?

[Alan461]

portzi said:

Macs stainless ones look the best option?

I do agree although Frank's design might be easier to make and less visible.
My one concern is moisture might hang around for longer than with the tube exposed.

[bluezeeland]

Alan461 said:

portzi said:

Macs stainless ones look the best option?

I do agree although Frank's design might be easier to make and less visible.
My one concern is moisture might hang around for longer than with the tube exposed.

I agree, you shouldn't close off and trap water, which will makes matters worse. Mines are open at the underside. They should protect the outriggers from direct impact of stones, sand and other road crud. The space under/over the outriggers have been cleaned, blown out by compressed air and probe-sprayed with clear waxoyl

If you want to go stainless protectors you would have to consider the fact that the body relative to the outriggers/chassis does move a bit. Not a lot but enough to make allowance for it. Mine have been siliconed up in two stages, that is, first in the slight gap between body and protector and then, when cured over this.

[puss]

They look great and seem to involve more skill than I possess. Would you consider making some to order?

[bluezeeland]

puss said:

They look great and seem to involve more skill than I possess. Would you consider making some to order?

Pressuming you mean me....I'd rather not, the differences in the bodies to the chassis are just too big, I could make a pair, but they still would require some fettling......so, in order to avoid frustrations, no thanks !

(had an query to make some for a mate's wedge, but will only make them on the car, just too many variables....)

Obviously you are free to copy....

Frank

[bluezeeland]

Apparently its called 'forex', originaly a swiss made material (back in the day) but nowadays referred to as foamex (to distinguish from this stock exchange thingy)

[Storm Guy]

Good to know - thanks

[Hoover.]

Do they not act as a trap catching dirt which remains wet/moist against the chassis ?

[bluezeeland]

Hoover. said:

Do they not act as a trap catching dirt which remains wet/moist against the chassis ?

I'm fairly confident it isn't, please refer to portzi's post earlier.......I have now cleaned the 'cavities' in between the outriggers and the chassis by means of compressed air and a water-jet + clear waxoyl coated them, intending to do keep doing this on a regular base ( do bear in mind the original outriggers lasted for 22 years)

[portzi]

bluezeeland said:

Hoover. said:

Do they not act as a trap catching dirt which remains wet/moist against the chassis ?

I'm fairly confident it isn't, please refer to portzi's post earlier.......I have now cleaned the 'cavities' in between the outriggers and the chassis by means of compressed air and a water-jet + clear waxoyl coated them, intending to do keep doing this on a regular base ( do bear in mind the original outriggers lasted for 22 years)

As Frank says Steve 3 years passed before l cleaned behind my chassis guards and they are so clean l could have eaten my dinner off them

[GinG15]

i already made some simple protectors years ago for my wedge (even the original factory powder coating was like new after 25years!!!) and wondered why TVR never came to a similar idea, as basically all models since the 50ies have exposed chassis-tubes in that area.

great engineering!!!

[Oldred_V8S]

Excellent solution
Which thickness of Foamex sheet did you use for the protectors?
Many thanks.

[FlipFlopGriff]

How do they attach Mac as I see no holes? I always thought the best option would be to secure using the 2 forward most chassis bolts (on the 2 triangular pieces) and then up into the wheel arch under slight stress with some type of foam backing against the body. Never got round to doing any though.
Must be a market for these?
FFG

[bluezeeland]

Oldred_V8S said:

Excellent solution
Which thickness of Foamex sheet did you use for the protectors?
Many thanks.

The foamex/forex used is 8mm, but thinking about making some for the rear in 4 mm, and if OK would change the fronts for 4 mm too....

[GinG15]

unbelievable that TVR never fitted such protectors in nearly 50years building cars.
veeeery poooor engineering!!!!

maybe they had a contract with mr. waxoyl and its users!!!!!