Grief Update - Snetterton 300 Track Day
Discussion
Another Snetterton track day kindly arranged by Stewart (mk1fan). One of my favourite tracks as it is less than 2 hours away from where I live and it suits the Griff being a power track with long straights. Good to catch up with the usual TVR track day goers.
The circuit for the track day was the full 3mile ‘300’ circuit which includes 2 fast straights and a number of more technical areas.
The noise limit for the day was 105dB static. Last year I just sneaked through the limit without the need for any additional cans. This year the same, the car was measured as 104dB much to the surprise of the MSV staff. On track unfortunately I I was black flagged as I breached the driveway noise limit and was required to don the ACT bolt on silencers.
The weather forecast was grim but the rain did not come in the quantity that was forecast so for the most part the track was dry. The TVR performed impeccably.
As per usual my trusty GoPro was on hand, unfortunately MSV deemed that the official 3M GoPro mount was no longer allowed for trackdays and all cameras needed to be mechanically mounted so I was not allowed to run with the camera on the front of the car.
I was also running Harry’s Lap Timer app on my iPhone, not for competitive lap timing as this is not allowed but for video telemetry overlay on my personal videos.
Video
https://youtu.be/tBQTZsk-6CM
I have also invested in a Racelogic VBox Sport to use with Harry’s Lap Timer as the iPhone internal 1Hz GPS sensor proved did not seem to adequately keep up with the video before. The Racelogic VBox has a 20hz GPS sensor and pair with the iPhone using bluetooth. You can see it Gaffer taped to the dashboard in the video.
My best lap of the day was 2:24.66 at an average speed of 73.8MPH which I was happy with.
Matt, as someone else remarked after watching one of your vids, you really need to master heel and toeing so you can rev match your downshifts. It'll improve your lap times as the car will be better balanced on corner entry so you can carry more speed, and it'll be less stressful on the drive train. I don't claim to be an expert, although I have done club racing (one year was in a RV8 Tuscan!), but I do think this would make a big difference. No criticism intended, just a friendly suggestion.
GlynMo said:
Matt, as someone else remarked after watching one of your vids, you really need to master heel and toeing so you can rev match your downshifts. It'll improve your lap times as the car will be better balanced on corner entry so you can carry more speed, and it'll be less stressful on the drive train. I don't claim to be an expert, although I have done club racing (one year was in a RV8 Tuscan!), but I do think this would make a big difference. No criticism intended, just a friendly suggestion.
I agree, that is next on the list. I have tried many times and I find it really difficult for some reason. I must keep practising and try harder. Either that or cheat and get a throttle blipper fitted. It does make it more exciting entering a corner with the rear wheels locked though.
carsy said:
Nice one Matthew. How are you liking those new Yokohama tyres. Are they performing as expected.
Epic. Probably the best performance modification I have made to the car. I have just ordered another set of rears.This was at Goodwood last year the tyres were happily pulling 1G at 121MPH.
They are not as good as R888s on track but then R888s are not great on the road IMO. The Yoko AD08Rs at stable at 90MPH in the rain, fine during the winter and are not noisy like some track / fast road tyres.
.... and you get a full 8mm of tread, R1Rs come with 5mm from memory and R888s even less. The reinforced sidewall really suits the car as well IMO, reminds me of the factory fit Bridgestone S01s.
Come on Mathew,
heel and toe, easy peezy. You gotta get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzcRZCcikwM be aggressive on the blip you won't hurt anything. and practise a lot coming up to islands safest. If you are really having problems, it could be the brake pedal when fully on, is much lower than throttle pedal which you can adjust to suit or if two far apart between brake and throttle put on some ali plate on pedals to narrow the gap. I will take a picture of my race car pedals to give you an idea as to spacing in the morning. Another top tip is to get the ball of your foot on the top half of the brake pedal making it easier to roll foot over to the throttle.
heel and toe, easy peezy. You gotta get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzcRZCcikwM be aggressive on the blip you won't hurt anything. and practise a lot coming up to islands safest. If you are really having problems, it could be the brake pedal when fully on, is much lower than throttle pedal which you can adjust to suit or if two far apart between brake and throttle put on some ali plate on pedals to narrow the gap. I will take a picture of my race car pedals to give you an idea as to spacing in the morning. Another top tip is to get the ball of your foot on the top half of the brake pedal making it easier to roll foot over to the throttle.
77racing said:
Come on Mathew,
heel and toe, easy peezy. You gotta get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzcRZCcikwM be aggressive on the blip you won't hurt anything. and practise a lot coming up to islands safest. If you are really having problems, it could be the brake pedal when fully on, is much lower than throttle pedal which you can adjust to suit or if two far apart between brake and throttle put on some ali plate on pedals to narrow the gap. I will take a picture of my race car pedals to give you an idea as to spacing in the morning. Another top tip is to get the ball of your foot on the top half of the brake pedal making it easier to roll foot over to the throttle.
I know, it is a poor state of affairs. Don't let that video fool you that was the best of 45 laps, the rest were pretty poor including one venture onto the grass. It all just came together at the end.heel and toe, easy peezy. You gotta get it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzcRZCcikwM be aggressive on the blip you won't hurt anything. and practise a lot coming up to islands safest. If you are really having problems, it could be the brake pedal when fully on, is much lower than throttle pedal which you can adjust to suit or if two far apart between brake and throttle put on some ali plate on pedals to narrow the gap. I will take a picture of my race car pedals to give you an idea as to spacing in the morning. Another top tip is to get the ball of your foot on the top half of the brake pedal making it easier to roll foot over to the throttle.
I am fairly sure I can adjust my pedals so I may try a few different configurations. I will try that tip and see if it makes in any easier. I would be interested to see your racer pedals. Still looking forward to seeing your GoPro footage from the racer.
I had problems heel and toeing when hard on the brakes so adjusted my brake pedal upwards by a good 6 mm and set the brake pedal at a slight angle so it's closer to the throttle at the top right corner,, easier to get my foot on it and still blip the throttle,,
Nice data and vid Matt, I find it alarming your driving one handed,, but you drive well so if it works for you.
It's a bad habit and I'd train it out of my driving if I were you,
If the car snatches that steering wheel will get yanked out of your hand,
It's not a criticism as I've had your ass shooting me down at Hethal,, I still smile at our antics there, such a good crac,,
Anyway, I love these vids and the sound is Bob on.
I was watching F1 practice earlier, new circuit etc,,, Hamilton doesn't walk the track,,, I was amazed!
These track days your just sort of thrown out there cold,, I think I don't like it because I'm so used to walking the track first,,
I like taking in all the furniture and little things that I can't compute at speed, I can photographically remember it,, I feel far more comfortable about my knowledge of that particular track and then feel more confident at speed.
You did good Matthew, cars flying at the end of the straights,,
Nice data and vid Matt, I find it alarming your driving one handed,, but you drive well so if it works for you.
It's a bad habit and I'd train it out of my driving if I were you,
If the car snatches that steering wheel will get yanked out of your hand,
It's not a criticism as I've had your ass shooting me down at Hethal,, I still smile at our antics there, such a good crac,,
Anyway, I love these vids and the sound is Bob on.
I was watching F1 practice earlier, new circuit etc,,, Hamilton doesn't walk the track,,, I was amazed!
These track days your just sort of thrown out there cold,, I think I don't like it because I'm so used to walking the track first,,
I like taking in all the furniture and little things that I can't compute at speed, I can photographically remember it,, I feel far more comfortable about my knowledge of that particular track and then feel more confident at speed.
You did good Matthew, cars flying at the end of the straights,,
quality was not very good still even though I put the mic at the back of the carb stacks. Going to put more foam round the mic see if that increases the record sound volume. Don't think there is a setting on Gopro to turn up the volume recorded. Picture of my pedals from race car. Note the brake pedal is forward of the throttle so when brake is fully depressed it ends up level with throttle pedal, if you get my drift.
ClassiChimi said:
I had problems heel and toeing when hard on the brakes so adjusted my brake pedal upwards by a good 6 mm and set the brake pedal at a slight angle so it's closer to the throttle at the top right corner,, easier to get my foot on it and still blip the throttle,,
Nice data and vid Matt, I find it alarming your driving one handed,, but you drive well so if it works for you.
It's a bad habit and I'd train it out of my driving if I were you,
If the car snatches that steering wheel will get yanked out of your hand,
It's not a criticism as I've had your ass shooting me down at Hethal,, I still smile at our antics there, such a good crac,,
Anyway, I love these vids and the sound is Bob on.
I was watching F1 practice earlier, new circuit etc,,, Hamilton doesn't walk the track,,, I was amazed!
These track days your just sort of thrown out there cold,, I think I don't like it because I'm so used to walking the track first,,
I like taking in all the furniture and little things that I can't compute at speed, I can photographically remember it,, I feel far more comfortable about my knowledge of that particular track and then feel more confident at speed.
You did good Matthew, cars flying at the end of the straights,,
Car is away having a new starter motor fitted at the moment but I will have a look at the pedals when I get it back and adjust the pedals to see if that makes a difference.Nice data and vid Matt, I find it alarming your driving one handed,, but you drive well so if it works for you.
It's a bad habit and I'd train it out of my driving if I were you,
If the car snatches that steering wheel will get yanked out of your hand,
It's not a criticism as I've had your ass shooting me down at Hethal,, I still smile at our antics there, such a good crac,,
Anyway, I love these vids and the sound is Bob on.
I was watching F1 practice earlier, new circuit etc,,, Hamilton doesn't walk the track,,, I was amazed!
These track days your just sort of thrown out there cold,, I think I don't like it because I'm so used to walking the track first,,
I like taking in all the furniture and little things that I can't compute at speed, I can photographically remember it,, I feel far more comfortable about my knowledge of that particular track and then feel more confident at speed.
You did good Matthew, cars flying at the end of the straights,,
LOL - yes, one handed is a bad habit of mine, really not good. You can take the boy out of Essex but not the Essex out of the boy! Check out this one handed save at my last visit to Snett.... appalling driving but got away with it
https://youtu.be/SCnGH-pc3p4?t=4m20s
Literally one of my favourite track memories our head to head at Hethal, makes me chuckle whenever I think about it, I almost lost it around the next corner laughing so much at your abusive hand gestures while I was chasing you. You are a f
king legend Alun don't ever stop the craic. You would be as quick as me with my tyres I reckon and if you went for the R888s that Trev has then I reckon you would be faster.
There is no way I would be walk the track at Snett.... 3 miles!!! I would need resuscitation after walking 3 miles!
Cheers Alun - look forward to seeing you soon sir.
77racing said:
quality was not very good still even though I put the mic at the back of the carb stacks. Going to put more foam round the mic see if that increases the record sound volume. Don't think there is a setting on Gopro to turn up the volume recorded. Picture of my pedals from race car. Note the brake pedal is forward of the throttle so when brake is fully depressed it ends up level with throttle pedal, if you get my drift.
Sorry to hear the video did not come out quite as planned, it does take a bit of trial and error with regards to camera angle and microphone placement. You can boost the sound in post production but I don't think you can increase the levels on the GoPro itself. What mic are you using?Thanks for the picture of the pedals, that looks like a similar setup that Alun was saying about with the brake pedal higher. I will definitely give that a go and see if that makes things easier.
trev4 said:
Looking good Mat that will teach me not to believe the weather forecast, you were 6 second's quicker than me and my 888s from earlier this year not that I was timing myself ofcourse
That is a good time, you were faster than me around Hethal, and I really enjoyed our little battle. I was really struggling to keep up with you! I think Snett is one of the few circuits where the extra power does pay off with those long straights.Gassing Station | Griffith | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff