How rare is a 1992 K Reg Griff?

[Just Trouble]

Just curious as to how many early Griff's remain. According to howrareismycar.co.uk there are only 5 1992 (K) Reg Griff's on the road and 4 SORN. Now that is pretty damn rare. Only a total of 647 Griff's remain on the UK roads and 442 currently SORN. Discounting the Griff's abroad the model is quite rare now. Think I will hang on to my pre-cat for a few more years if I can.

JT

Ps that sounds like an awful lot of SORN Griff's especially for the summer

[carsy]

Mines a `92 K Reg and definately not sorned.

[geeman237]

That number seems very low. I looked into this too a while back. If I recall there were about 600 or so cars made in 1992. I have heard production was slow to take off and there are more latter 1992 (K plate) cars than early (J plate). Recently there was a Feb 1992 car for sale and this may have been an early demonstration delivered car. In the last month there have been about 3 or 4 1992 cars come up for sale on Pistonheads classifieds.

I just purchased a November '92 Griffith to import into the USA next year. Its going on a SORN and storage until then due to the 25 year import rule in the US. :-(

[Just Trouble]

geeman237 said:

That number seems very low. I looked into this too a while back. If I recall there were about 600 or so cars made in 1992. I have heard production was slow to take off and there are more latter 1992 (K plate) cars than early (J plate). Recently there was a Feb 1992 car for sale and this may have been an early demonstration delivered car. In the last month there have been about 3 or 4 1992 cars come up for sale on Pistonheads classifieds.

I just purchased a November '92 Griffith to import into the USA next year. Its going on a SORN and storage until then due to the 25 year import rule in the US. :-(

So you will have your Griff in the States just in time for Christmas 2017. That will be a pretty cool and the envy of your neighbours (until you start it up)

JT

[cavebloke]

The reason they look so rare is just that TVR were crap at paperwork. My 92 K-reg Griff is registered just as a TVR with no model entered so it doesn't count in the Griff figures. I hear many others are the same.
Simon

[jay-kay-em]

cavebloke said:

The reason they look so rare is just that TVR were crap at paperwork. My 92 K-reg Griff is registered just as a TVR with no model entered so it doesn't count in the Griff figures. I hear many others are the same.
Simon

^This

My 1992 pre-cat is just a TVR on the V5; the model field is blank. These websites work on DVLA data.

If you go to HOWMANYLEFT.CO.UK you can search for "TVR missing". This searches for TVR and 'the blank' models. You will note that returns 705 cars taxed.

Of that 705, if you go to the year first registered tab, there is an almighty spike for 1992. It's the biggest year of all the years that cars left the factory with a blank model on the V5, summing 168 cars taxed today. I don't know if the bloke doing the admin had a career break in '92 or something!?!

My car is in that 168, but there may well be the odd S2 etc.

--EDIT--

Thinking about it, it wasn't TVR that registered cars, it was the dealers. Dealers have to tell DVLA what they are registering. I guess if TVR HQ had not registered the name "Griffith" with DVLA until 1993, then dealers couldn't enter the correct model code....

Edited by jay-kay-em on Monday 15th August 21:43

[Just Trouble]

cavebloke said:

The reason they look so rare is just that TVR were crap at paperwork. My 92 K-reg Griff is registered just as a TVR with no model entered so it doesn't count in the Griff figures. I hear many others are the same.
Simon

That's interesting to note. In that case there is never going to be a definitive figure of remaining Griff's if the V5's just show TVR and no model

JT

[geeman237]

Just Trouble said:

geeman237 said:

That number seems very low. I looked into this too a while back. If I recall there were about 600 or so cars made in 1992. I have heard production was slow to take off and there are more latter 1992 (K plate) cars than early (J plate). Recently there was a Feb 1992 car for sale and this may have been an early demonstration delivered car. In the last month there have been about 3 or 4 1992 cars come up for sale on Pistonheads classifieds.

I just purchased a November '92 Griffith to import into the USA next year. Its going on a SORN and storage until then due to the 25 year import rule in the US. :-(

So you will have your Griff in the States just in time for Christmas 2017. That will be a pretty cool and the envy of your neighbours (until you start it up)

JT

Ah....this is America where there are lots of loud cars, so one more V8 in the neighbourhood won't matter to them. My neighbours are used to my eclectic British car collection, some louder than others. Daimler SP250, Lotus Esprit and Reliant Scimitar (notice the plastic theme....) I wanted to find one with an earlier build/registration date but the car I have bought proved too good to pass up and the BREXIT really threw the exchange rate into my favour even factoring in storage costs etc. US import is based on the first date of registration or actual manf date and seeing as TVR's records appear a bit errr slack, then I have to go with the registration date :-(

[hillclimbmanic]

My 400 was registered on the 14th Feb, and indeed, is just a TVR..!!

The registration is 8 numbers after the Motorshow Griff, so VERY early...

[AcidRich]

Mine is alive and well

[cavebloke]

AcidRich said:

Mine is alive and well

That's gorgeous! Looks the same paint colour and OZ wheels as mine which is K649.
Simon

[davep]

According to data gleaned from the SMMT during the course of this thread: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

... there was a total of 771 pre-cat Griffiths built during 92/93, with the following approximate breakdown:

J plate = 322
K plate = 392
post K plate = 57, could be with cats, exports, Channel Islands, ect.

The figures for the 500 are: 1811 cars built over the production period 1993 - 2002.

Make of that what you will. But it's a fair bet that J plates are rarer than Ks, just.

Plus, cavebloke's picture above shows the pre-cat Griffith lines to perfection!

Edited by davep on Friday 26th August 12:27

[AcidRich]

cavebloke said:

That's gorgeous! Looks the same paint colour and OZ wheels as mine which is K649.
Simon

Thanks! Seperated at birth by the look of it. The colour is Nero black on the spec sheet.

[AlanW]

Even rarer J reg

[Wildfire]

My Pre-Cat is on a private plate as a K. For some reason I seem to remember it originally being a J, but I have a feeling that this isn't possible.

Any idea how I can find out what the original reg is?

[hillclimbmanic]

Wildfire said:

My Pre-Cat is on a private plate as a K. For some reason I seem to remember it originally being a J, but I have a feeling that this isn't possible.

Any idea how I can find out what the original reg is?

HPI it...

[MPO]

Wildfire said:

My Pre-Cat is on a private plate as a K. For some reason I seem to remember it originally being a J, but I have a feeling that this isn't possible.

Any idea how I can find out what the original reg is?

Look at the V5; what do you have as the year and month of registration?

From the 1st August 1992 the K Reg. was introduced.

MPO

[unclemark123]

According to that web site there are only 243 Tamoras!

[Tonksie355]

MPO said:

Look at the V5; what do you have as the year and month of registration?

From the 1st August 1992 the K Reg. was introduced.

MPO

I have a Griff 400, I'm sure (currently on private plate) on an 'L' reg but date of first reg is 11th April 1992, so above doesn't work for a 'K' plate or am I going mad?

[hillclimbmanic]

...just to clarify, are we talking prefix or suffix 'K's and'L's.??

Prefix K's and L's are 92/93, and 93/94 respectively...

Suffix are 72/73 and 73/74...

Sorry if that sounds patronising.!!

Paul