Precat Griff values
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After an absence of 15 years I have decided to get back into Griff ownership. My last car was a 500 but this time I want to buy a precat.
I would be looking for a car which had any chassis issues sorted or which has somehow managed to avoid any.
I am a bit uncertain of current values. There is a 430 for sale at £24995 which seems a lot but maybe I am just out of touch with current values?
Realistically what is a fair range of values on a private sale?
I am assuming that a 400 would be worth less, all other things being equal.
I would be looking for a car which had any chassis issues sorted or which has somehow managed to avoid any.
I am a bit uncertain of current values. There is a 430 for sale at £24995 which seems a lot but maybe I am just out of touch with current values?
Realistically what is a fair range of values on a private sale?
I am assuming that a 400 would be worth less, all other things being equal.
jmn said:
After an absence of 15 years I have decided to get back into Griff ownership. My last car was a 500 but this time I want to buy a precat.
I would be looking for a car which had any chassis issues sorted or which has somehow managed to avoid any.
I am a bit uncertain of current values. There is a 430 for sale at £24995 which seems a lot but maybe I am just out of touch with current values?
Realistically what is a fair range of values on a private sale?
I am assuming that a 400 would be worth less, all other things being equal.
Asking price and actual selling price is usually a lot different, I think that one is well over priced; always remember it is a buyers market. A 430 would need to be exceptional,in my opinion, to exceed £15 - 20,000, that is if my selling experience of two years ago is anything to go by!I would be looking for a car which had any chassis issues sorted or which has somehow managed to avoid any.
I am a bit uncertain of current values. There is a 430 for sale at £24995 which seems a lot but maybe I am just out of touch with current values?
Realistically what is a fair range of values on a private sale?
I am assuming that a 400 would be worth less, all other things being equal.
Well, when I was shopping around for a Griff a few years ago, a good pre-cat was 12-14k and a good 500 was 16-18k (excluding the SE). So, pre-cat values were roughly 25% less than their bigger engined brother.
When today, there is no cheaper 500 on Autotrader than £27,000, I would sincerely hope this has boosted pre-cat values using the same 25% margin.
The 430 is considered a halo car by some, especially if genuine. Best of both worlds, pre-cat noise with the extra power. This may add more value than a basic 400.
In contrary to a previous post, I believe it's a sellers market. It would be a buyers market for vehicles in over-supply and three year old ex-PCP cars are a good example. The sheer numbers means you can shop around. For a Griff now, you can't pop next door for a better deal. If you want one that bad you have to pay the going rate sadly.
When today, there is no cheaper 500 on Autotrader than £27,000, I would sincerely hope this has boosted pre-cat values using the same 25% margin.
The 430 is considered a halo car by some, especially if genuine. Best of both worlds, pre-cat noise with the extra power. This may add more value than a basic 400.
In contrary to a previous post, I believe it's a sellers market. It would be a buyers market for vehicles in over-supply and three year old ex-PCP cars are a good example. The sheer numbers means you can shop around. For a Griff now, you can't pop next door for a better deal. If you want one that bad you have to pay the going rate sadly.
Thanks to all-I am going to have a look at a 400 which has had a body off restoration in the next few weeks.
The Fender Broad 430 was showing as sold until recently but now appears to be for sale again.
As a matter of interest would big valve heads and a cam get a 400 up to 430 performance levels?
The Fender Broad 430 was showing as sold until recently but now appears to be for sale again.
As a matter of interest would big valve heads and a cam get a 400 up to 430 performance levels?
jay-kay-em said:
Well, when I was shopping around for a Griff a few years ago, a good pre-cat was 12-14k and a good 500 was 16-18k (excluding the SE). So, pre-cat values were roughly 25% less than their bigger engined brother.
When today, there is no cheaper 500 on Autotrader than £27,000, I would sincerely hope this has boosted pre-cat values using the same 25% margin.
The 430 is considered a halo car by some, especially if genuine. Best of both worlds, pre-cat noise with the extra power. This may add more value than a basic 400.
In contrary to a previous post, I believe it's a sellers market. It would be a buyers market for vehicles in over-supply and three year old ex-PCP cars are a good example. The sheer numbers means you can shop around. For a Griff now, you can't pop next door for a better deal. If you want one that bad you have to pay the going rate sadly.
Well it will be interesting to see how the OP gets on, I hope he will keep us all informed. I am sure 2017 is going to be a turbulent year and this is bound to effect "toy" prices, I am not disagreeing just an interested onlooker.When today, there is no cheaper 500 on Autotrader than £27,000, I would sincerely hope this has boosted pre-cat values using the same 25% margin.
The 430 is considered a halo car by some, especially if genuine. Best of both worlds, pre-cat noise with the extra power. This may add more value than a basic 400.
In contrary to a previous post, I believe it's a sellers market. It would be a buyers market for vehicles in over-supply and three year old ex-PCP cars are a good example. The sheer numbers means you can shop around. For a Griff now, you can't pop next door for a better deal. If you want one that bad you have to pay the going rate sadly.
There's a decent looking (from the pics anyway!) 4 litre on ebay for £17k. I think the days of anything under about £15k have gone now - good news for owners but not so good if you're looking to buy. They used to go down as low as 7-8k.
The 25 year import rule for america may well start to push early cars prices up further as '92 cars are now eligible to be brought into the US.
The 25 year import rule for america may well start to push early cars prices up further as '92 cars are now eligible to be brought into the US.
andy43 said:
There's a decent looking (from the pics anyway!) 4 litre on ebay for £17k. I think the days of anything under about £15k have gone now - good news for owners but not so good if you're looking to buy. They used to go down as low as 7-8k.
The 25 year import rule for america may well start to push early cars prices up further as '92 cars are now eligible to be brought into the US.
Mine's eligible in 3 weeks.!!The 25 year import rule for america may well start to push early cars prices up further as '92 cars are now eligible to be brought into the US.
I've got a RangeRover Classic 4.2(4.3) engine sat in the workshop, which I intend to build(AFTER the resto is finished!) From the block up, to include forged pistons, BV heads, roller rockers, and MAYBE the 4 barrel injection system, with an Edelbrock manifold, that you were discussing, the other day.!!
hillclimbmanic said:
I've got a RangeRover Classic 4.2(4.3) engine sat in the workshop, which I intend to build(AFTER the resto is finished!) From the block up, to include forged pistons, BV heads, roller rockers, and MAYBE the 4 barrel injection system, with an Edelbrock manifold, that you were discussing, the other day.!!
Good idea! Lighten the flywheel as well and you have a nice engine! I think the edelbrock manifold is a bit small for my 5.5 but it should be fine for a 4.3. The ports on the edel have to be ported out a bit to match the gasket/head portsGassing Station | Griffith | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff