1995 Griffith 500 restoration

1995 Griffith 500 restoration

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Polly Grigora

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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Hard to believe that there's so little interest in such a good topic

Anyway........LED extension tutorial is very helpful for those contemplating such a task in the future

Crack on.....great reading about your findings and modifications

PabloGee

260 posts

20 months

Tuesday 10th October 2023
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I love a resto thread!
Please keep the news coming…

Stick Legs

4,912 posts

165 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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Polly Grigora said:
Hard to believe that there's so little interest in such a good topic
Oh I have read every word.

The problem with Rob’s threads are how many timescan you say ‘Wow!’.

This & the XJ-6C are pretty much 2 of my ‘real world dream cars’ and Rob’s dedication, skill & hard work are fantastic to watch.

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Wednesday 11th October 2023
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Not sure about the wow……..a compliment is a compliment though smile
Well I thought I would check the new leds before finalising the soldering? low and behold I have a dud!
Not that well thought out though as I had glued it into position first.
For future reference when looking at the circuit board as fitted to the veneered panel, the positive leg of the led is to the right on all positions on the circuit board

Polly Grigora

11,209 posts

109 months

Thursday 12th October 2023
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RobXjcoupe said:
Not sure about the wow……..a compliment is a compliment though smile
Well I thought I would check the new leds before finalising the soldering? low and behold I have a dud!
Not that well thought out though as I had glued it into position first.
For future reference when looking at the circuit board as fitted to the veneered panel, the positive leg of the led is to the right on all positions on the circuit board
Love it, done the same over and over to find later that nothing should be taken for granted

Anyway, you're on your last LEG smile

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Replacement led arrived this morning so cracked on to finish the heater controls.
Multimeter to diode and I checked and triple checked all was good to glue in the replacement diode and solder all the new components to the circuit board.




Oh and to note I had to reduce the diameter of a socket so as it would fit into the veneer pocket to tighten up the 4 securing nuts on the 4 rotary switches.

I machined that a while back.

Above shows components all soldered into position. I then checked the diodes again, which all work so anything not lighting up when plugging the unit back in will be a circuit issue.
Lastly picture below with the control knobs fitted. I gave them a polish before hand to look as good as new again.

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Control panel bolted back into the centre console.

Bowks

1,415 posts

205 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Looking great.

Polly Grigora

11,209 posts

109 months

Tuesday 24th October 2023
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Topic needs to be made a sticky due to more in depth fixes and work-arounds than most posted here

Classic Chim

12,424 posts

149 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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That’s surgical levels of skill and the sort of job I dread but then find it very therapeutic especially if it came out like that. Top class modelling skills employed there I feel lol.
Not everyone can turn down a socket at a moments notice biggrin but we should be able too!
Every man should have a lathe and the ability to use it if you think about it!

So how much would this have cost if a customer wanted this level of service. biggrin This cars gotta be worth 50 big ones when it’s done.
Fantastic attention to detail.

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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Thank you for the positive comments. I do try to explain in straight forward detail. Lathe work or any machining is my trade or I should say was my trade of 31 years. All manual toolroom stuff. Was also involved with automotive body tooling, pre production and production stuff.
Now I help teach basic engineering to college students. Pay is shocking but I do have a full engineering workshop at my disposal. Not quite a Ford motor company toolroom but enough for my needs wink


Murph7355

37,733 posts

256 months

Wednesday 25th October 2023
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I doubt it does, but does the standard panel have some sort of "gasket" between it and the leather/pletha/alcantara?

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Thursday 26th October 2023
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Murph7355 said:
I doubt it does, but does the standard panel have some sort of "gasket" between it and the leather/pletha/alcantara?
There is no gasket on the standard panel. The circuit board is open so to speak.

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Just finalising the dash refitting the wiring etc.
I put a constant 12v through the illumination bulbs as I had been testing adhoc as I built up the dials. My repaired temp gauge body is a little greener but all look good to be honest.
A more detailed look I noticed the time clock has a bit of shadow and dirt behind the glass.
The bezels are crimped around the tvr dials which makes it extremely difficult to remove to simple wipe a bit of dirt away. Undecided whether to dismantle that or not. I’ve ordered another bulb for it which has side illumination so fingers crossed it gets rid of the shadow and possibly doesn’t highlight the dirt inside.

Polly Grigora

11,209 posts

109 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Do you know anyone that will supply you with a knackered gauge to play with?

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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Polly Grigora said:
Do you know anyone that will supply you with a knackered gauge to play with?
Unfortunately not. I’m hoping the new bulb being lit on the sides as well as the front will get rid of the shadow and possibly not highlight the bit of dirt behind the glass front.

Polly Grigora

11,209 posts

109 months

Saturday 28th October 2023
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RobXjcoupe said:
Polly Grigora said:
Do you know anyone that will supply you with a knackered gauge to play with?
Unfortunately not. I’m hoping the new bulb being lit on the sides as well as the front will get rid of the shadow and possibly not highlight the bit of dirt behind the glass front.
Ok then, yep read about illumination possibly not showing the dirt as much as now

Shame that nobody is able to send you a gauge to play with

Bevelled all around?

Have only done the job once on a gauge that had a bevelled chrome ring, it was ok after but not perfect by any means

Would cutting the bevelled part of the ring in several places with a dremel circular saw give you a fix?

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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Polly Grigora said:
RobXjcoupe said:
Polly Grigora said:
Do you know anyone that will supply you with a knackered gauge to play with?
Unfortunately not. I’m hoping the new bulb being lit on the sides as well as the front will get rid of the shadow and possibly not highlight the bit of dirt behind the glass front.
Ok then, yep read about illumination possibly not showing the dirt as much as now

Shame that nobody is able to send you a gauge to play with

Bevelled all around?

Have only done the job once on a gauge that had a bevelled chrome ring, it was ok after but not perfect by any means

Would cutting the bevelled part of the ring in several places with a dremel circular saw give you a fix?
I could try. My dash has recessed pockets for the dials so as long as any marks or damage is kept to the minimum the recessed pocket will hide it once fitted back on the dash. The time clock uses a steel body (unlike the rest of the dials with plastic bodies) with a crimped on bezel flush with the metal body. No tags to get a tool under. I could mount in a lathe and machine about 1mm off the bezel flush to the steel clock case to get a thin blade under and then gradually go around the full circumference gently prying until it’s loose enough to remove.
Then once repaired I could gently squeeze the aluminium bezel back into place with a line of sealant to finish the repair.

RobXjcoupe

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3,173 posts

91 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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You can in the picture how tight the bezel is to the steel case.

Polly Grigora

11,209 posts

109 months

Sunday 29th October 2023
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The crimp is a horrible shape

Each to their own, I'd be concerned about the bezel possibly spinning around the body of the clock if attempting to use a lathe to cut it

Looking forward to your future posts on this should you decide to tackle it

Earlier I thought about the possibility of cutting most of the crimped part of the bevel off using small hand tools leaving 4 small tags at 90 degrees apart to refit it later