New Estoril production run?
Discussion
)V8 GRF said:
LordGrover said:
If you're going to the trouble of getting 16" made, maybe 17" would be a better choice? Use the existing 16" on the fronts and the new 17" on the rears - retaining the preferred nose-down look.
NB - not interested myself but if anyone knows of a set of Camille Gotti Axia let me know.
Problem with that is that while the 16" moulds probably still exist and getting a run from them might be a possibility to get them made as 17" would need a new mould and all the associated (high) costs with that.NB - not interested myself but if anyone knows of a set of Camille Gotti Axia let me know.
griff50tvr said:
V8 GRF said:
LordGrover said:
If you're going to the trouble of getting 16" made, maybe 17" would be a better choice? Use the existing 16" on the fronts and the new 17" on the rears - retaining the preferred nose-down look.
NB - not interested myself but if anyone knows of a set of Camille Gotti Axia let me know.
Problem with that is that while the 16" moulds probably still exist and getting a run from them might be a possibility to get them made as 17" would need a new mould and all the associated (high) costs with that.NB - not interested myself but if anyone knows of a set of Camille Gotti Axia let me know.
Rob
SonicHedgeHog said:
What I'm going to try and do is find out if a new run is financially viable. Once that has been established I'll start another thread to get opinions on the best sizes and if necessary try and track down the original moulds. Someone must have them somewhere.
How are you doing with this fella?
MPoxon said:
SonicHedgeHog said:
What I'm going to try and do is find out if a new run is financially viable. Once that has been established I'll start another thread to get opinions on the best sizes and if necessary try and track down the original moulds. Someone must have them somewhere.
How are you doing with this fella?I can save you a fair amount of time on this. The wheels were made by OZ Racing. Their absolute minimum batch quantity is 300 pieces (as a run of castings) but such a small run would attract a hefty price premium. The wheel has been out of production for over 10 years so if (and that's a big "if") they still have the tooling it would have to be recommissioned which would attract another cost. The paint finishes have all moved on too so I'd be surpised if they paint wheels the original Estoril colour anymore.
Also, the order, if acceptable to them, would have to allow for manufacturing tolerances so you could either end up with anywhere btween 270 and 350 wheels and you'd be expected to take every one of them or (if you want a guarantee of 300) you'd pay a big premium to cover scrappage for over-production.
I'm pretty sure it won't fly but if you want to give it a punt:
info@ozracingltd.co.uk
Also, the order, if acceptable to them, would have to allow for manufacturing tolerances so you could either end up with anywhere btween 270 and 350 wheels and you'd be expected to take every one of them or (if you want a guarantee of 300) you'd pay a big premium to cover scrappage for over-production.
I'm pretty sure it won't fly but if you want to give it a punt:
info@ozracingltd.co.uk
Dr Wolff said:
I am bemused by the idea that you can move the rear 16s to the front & put 17s on the rear. The 16s would be too wide & you wouldn't be able to turn the steering wheel!!!
You can indeed move the 16" rears to the front, I have as have many others, there are no issues other than a slight difference in offset and a requirement in some cases to fit rack stops to prevent chafing on teh front suspension.Full SP said:
I can save you a fair amount of time on this. The wheels were made by OZ Racing. Their absolute minimum batch quantity is 300 pieces (as a run of castings) but such a small run would attract a hefty price premium. The wheel has been out of production for over 10 years so if (and that's a big "if") they still have the tooling it would have to be recommissioned which would attract another cost. The paint finishes have all moved on too so I'd be surpised if they paint wheels the original Estoril colour anymore.
Also, the order, if acceptable to them, would have to allow for manufacturing tolerances so you could either end up with anywhere btween 270 and 350 wheels and you'd be expected to take every one of them or (if you want a guarantee of 300) you'd pay a big premium to cover scrappage for over-production.
I'm pretty sure it won't fly but if you want to give it a punt:
info@ozracingltd.co.uk
You have indeed saved me a lot of time. Thank you. You mention 300 units as a minimum production run. Do you happen to know if that means 300 fronts and 300 rears because of the size difference or 300 in total? If your numbers are correct, and they sound fairly plausible, 300 units is 'only' 75 full sets. Sounds a lot initially, but there are at least 5000 Griffs and Chims on the road so we'd only need orders from 15% of them. A challenge, I admit, but not impossible.Also, the order, if acceptable to them, would have to allow for manufacturing tolerances so you could either end up with anywhere btween 270 and 350 wheels and you'd be expected to take every one of them or (if you want a guarantee of 300) you'd pay a big premium to cover scrappage for over-production.
I'm pretty sure it won't fly but if you want to give it a punt:
info@ozracingltd.co.uk
Thanks for your post.
V8 GRF said:
Dr Wolff said:
I am bemused by the idea that you can move the rear 16s to the front & put 17s on the rear. The 16s would be too wide & you wouldn't be able to turn the steering wheel!!!
You can indeed move the 16" rears to the front, I have as have many others, there are no issues other than a slight difference in offset and a requirement in some cases to fit rack stops to prevent chafing on teh front suspension.
Does that not reduce your turning circle?
Dr Wolff said:
V8 GRF said:
Dr Wolff said:
I am bemused by the idea that you can move the rear 16s to the front & put 17s on the rear. The 16s would be too wide & you wouldn't be able to turn the steering wheel!!!
You can indeed move the 16" rears to the front, I have as have many others, there are no issues other than a slight difference in offset and a requirement in some cases to fit rack stops to prevent chafing on teh front suspension.RichB said:
Dr Wolff said:
V8 GRF said:
Dr Wolff said:
I am bemused by the idea that you can move the rear 16s to the front & put 17s on the rear. The 16s would be too wide & you wouldn't be able to turn the steering wheel!!!
You can indeed move the 16" rears to the front, I have as have many others, there are no issues other than a slight difference in offset and a requirement in some cases to fit rack stops to prevent chafing on teh front suspension.Edited by Dr Wolff on Monday 17th May 17:10
RichB said:
Why would you put 245 tyres on the front? Or is your comment based on someone not fitting new rubber? I would assume anyone doing this would also buy 4 x new tyres at the same time as fitting new rims.
Because the suggestion on which I was commenting was that of moving the existing 16s from the back to the front & put new 17s on the rear. See posts above. Are front & rear rims the same width, then? And can you go from a 245 to a 205 tyre on the same rim? <showswhatIknowaboutwheels!>Gassing Station | Griffith | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff