Bl**dy lower ball joint now!!!... what next...
Discussion
TVR Beaver said:
spend said:
What do you really expect to limit the extent of droop?
You may even find that the old drop links were the first part to seize in the original setup?
I would have thought it was the damper the controled the movement.... You don't want it locking out on joints before the damper itself stops do you?.... You may even find that the old drop links were the first part to seize in the original setup?
The old drop links were the rubber things and flopped about all over the place... so it didn't stop on thoes...
Hmmm.. dampers @£150, BJ's @£20 I think I know which ones I'd want to take wear & tear 
Remember the load is just the falling wheel - ie unsprung weight on one corner at whatever acceleration (can't be more than 1g downwards though can it?). Damper bump stops take all the weight and heftier accelerations, but in droop I guess you are relying on the valving to slow down the corner at the limit. Whether it is the damper or the BJ articulation that forms the 'stop' I think you still rely on the damper valving to decelerate the swinging lump to minimize the mechanical contact wherever it is.
PS I have seen several cars break damper shafts.
Remember the load is just the falling wheel - ie unsprung weight on one corner at whatever acceleration (can't be more than 1g downwards though can it?). Damper bump stops take all the weight and heftier accelerations, but in droop I guess you are relying on the valving to slow down the corner at the limit. Whether it is the damper or the BJ articulation that forms the 'stop' I think you still rely on the damper valving to decelerate the swinging lump to minimize the mechanical contact wherever it is.
PS I have seen several cars break damper shafts.
Quinny said:
I think your reading to much into it......Be realistic, how often do wheels leave the ground???
On the extremely rare occassion one does, how long is it hanging for??
but it's not the 'hanging' that would snap it... it's the first sudden contact... once there, no problem... but the initial sideways shear force??On the extremely rare occassion one does, how long is it hanging for??
But I take your point over the shock slowing it down and it not getting hammered... so may be not as bigger jolt as you first think....
And I guess they all must do it if the Power ones are like this also?...
Edited by TVR Beaver on Friday 7th January 20:14
Well.. problem solved.... Raceing Green (Clever Trevor) had some made by RT Raceing to overcome this problem... not much in it visualy but when fitted I can now get full top slot adjustment...
A bit expensive, but how much does a wheel coming off cost??
Worth a check as the Power ones locked out well before the shocks stopped... and I'm sure other standard ones will too.
the new one is at the front.. the rear is my old unit... the Power ones went back (wonder if I got my refund yet??)
A bit expensive, but how much does a wheel coming off cost??
Worth a check as the Power ones locked out well before the shocks stopped... and I'm sure other standard ones will too.
the new one is at the front.. the rear is my old unit... the Power ones went back (wonder if I got my refund yet??)
TVR Beaver said:
Well.. problem solved.... Raceing Green (Clever Trevor) had some made by RT Raceing to overcome this problem... not much in it visualy but when fitted I can now get full top slot adjustment...
A bit expensive, but how much does a wheel coming off cost??
Worth a check as the Power ones locked out well before the shocks stopped... and I'm sure other standard ones will too.
the new one is at the front.. the rear is my old unit... the Power ones went back (wonder if I got my refund yet??)
so the bj too buy are the clevor trevor ones /A bit expensive, but how much does a wheel coming off cost??
Worth a check as the Power ones locked out well before the shocks stopped... and I'm sure other standard ones will too.
the new one is at the front.. the rear is my old unit... the Power ones went back (wonder if I got my refund yet??)
John.
just checked mine again while it is up in the air.
With my dampers, the travel stops before the ball joint articulates to it's full extent.
I have noticed some makes of dampers are longer then others which woulld give this problem.
Often dampers come in unequal length pairs, the shorter ones go on the front if this is the case.
just checked mine again while it is up in the air.
With my dampers, the travel stops before the ball joint articulates to it's full extent.
I have noticed some makes of dampers are longer then others which woulld give this problem.
Often dampers come in unequal length pairs, the shorter ones go on the front if this is the case.
haircutmike said:
John.
just checked mine again while it is up in the air.
With my dampers, the travel stops before the ball joint articulates to it's full extent.
I have noticed some makes of dampers are longer then others which woulld give this problem.
Often dampers come in unequal length pairs, the shorter ones go on the front if this is the case.
Yes.. you are right... Spax and Proteck's don't appear to have the problem as they are shorter.. not sure about the rest.. but worth a check.. you don't want one popping out!!just checked mine again while it is up in the air.
With my dampers, the travel stops before the ball joint articulates to it's full extent.
I have noticed some makes of dampers are longer then others which woulld give this problem.
Often dampers come in unequal length pairs, the shorter ones go on the front if this is the case.
Raceing Green has the stock now... but they are about £43 each
TVR Beaver said:
haircutmike said:
John.
just checked mine again while it is up in the air.
With my dampers, the travel stops before the ball joint articulates to it's full extent.
I have noticed some makes of dampers are longer then others which woulld give this problem.
Often dampers come in unequal length pairs, the shorter ones go on the front if this is the case.
Yes.. you are right... Spax and Proteck's don't appear to have the problem as they are shorter.. not sure about the rest.. but worth a check.. you don't want one popping out!!just checked mine again while it is up in the air.
With my dampers, the travel stops before the ball joint articulates to it's full extent.
I have noticed some makes of dampers are longer then others which woulld give this problem.
Often dampers come in unequal length pairs, the shorter ones go on the front if this is the case.
Raceing Green has the stock now... but they are about £43 each
?
That'll be thrunty gazillion english pounds please. 
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