2 Door Range Rover project
Discussion
DonkeyApple said:
That's good to know. Thanks.
Is it Adwest who do the quick rack box?
Re secondary door seals. Not sure. The OF ones are like hen's teeth and I have assumed not the right fit as my doors are longer. They were a good addition to a 4 door though.
Adwest do the steering box. Had it on my LSE.Is it Adwest who do the quick rack box?
Re secondary door seals. Not sure. The OF ones are like hen's teeth and I have assumed not the right fit as my doors are longer. They were a good addition to a 4 door though.
Chuck spacers on it and adjust the steering stops and the steering lock was far better.
Looking forward to seeing this project evolve and glad that Mr Hunt sold the Overfinch so quickly for you.
Bish said:
DonkeyApple said:
That's good to know. Thanks.
Is it Adwest who do the quick rack box?
Re secondary door seals. Not sure. The OF ones are like hen's teeth and I have assumed not the right fit as my doors are longer. They were a good addition to a 4 door though.
Adwest do the steering box. Had it on my LSE.Is it Adwest who do the quick rack box?
Re secondary door seals. Not sure. The OF ones are like hen's teeth and I have assumed not the right fit as my doors are longer. They were a good addition to a 4 door though.
Chuck spacers on it and adjust the steering stops and the steering lock was far better.
Looking forward to seeing this project evolve and glad that Mr Hunt sold the Overfinch so quickly for you.
I was quite surprised. Given the time of year I suspected it would either sell in the first round of client calls or I'd have to wait and hope for a harsh winter to inspire people in Spring. As it was, it was under offer within hours and he has just sold another LSE Overfinch by the looks of things. It does confirm that this is a two tier market and that the best of these cars are very desireable.
I would have loved to have kept it but I know deep down that I would only have got round to using it occasionally and as a result would have probably had loads of silly problems with it.
Thanks for the infor on the Adwest box, it looks like it's still an option.
Aiming to head out your way on Wednesday to catch up with the guy who has been restoring the exterior trim parts and see how that is going on. I'll try and take some photos and post them up.
I little bit of an update.
Physically the project hasn't moved on but the other week while visiting the chap who is restoring the original exterior trim I noticed he had a European 1992 2 door which had been imported by another client just for the body shell to be used on a CSK resto.
Essentially, if we can agree a price, I have access to quite a few bits such as late 2 door seats and a late spec manual drive train.
This has turned the project on its head a little.
I've also been looking into Merlin F85 heads for RV8 units and it is looking like we can build quite an inexpensive 5.0 stroker out of a cross bolted 4.6 and be exceeding 300 bhp and torque quite easily. This would be a good stop gap
The LT77 box should take it but Ashcroft do a simple upgrade to the R380.
The main focus will be on getting it handling well for fast road and I don't think there is any point in talking to anyone other than JE. They've been very helpful to date and must be amongst the best people at keeping Landies and Rangies on the black stuff. So will be staying with the original plan re diffs, drive and half shafts, roll bars etc.
If sticking with an RV8 unit for the time being then I can use the later ventilated discs which means being able to retain the original 16" Rostyles.
But I have been pointed in the direction of Mach 5 up in Yorkshire who are able to take the centres and weld them into 18" rims. So I can retain the Rostyles look.
The upside of this is that I may find the taller tyre walls on the 16" wheels poor for speed and need to switch to a slightly lower profile tyre and increase the wheel size. It also means I can select a slightly wider rim and get a bit more rubber on the ground and also fit the JE brake upgrade if needs be. I did find the Classic brakes on the Overfinch struggled a little but the 2 door is quite a bit lighter so we may be ok.
I'm continuing to source original interior and exterior 72 parts and am nearly there. Struggling to find the right Wynguard bonnet mirrors at the moment.
I'm also looking for a firm which can make me replacement interior door furniture, air vents and some other items as perfect replicas but from billeted aluminium. This is my current craziest idea along with also trying to source an original Monteverdi instrument dash pod to make a vacuum mould of.
Physically the project hasn't moved on but the other week while visiting the chap who is restoring the original exterior trim I noticed he had a European 1992 2 door which had been imported by another client just for the body shell to be used on a CSK resto.
Essentially, if we can agree a price, I have access to quite a few bits such as late 2 door seats and a late spec manual drive train.
This has turned the project on its head a little.
I've also been looking into Merlin F85 heads for RV8 units and it is looking like we can build quite an inexpensive 5.0 stroker out of a cross bolted 4.6 and be exceeding 300 bhp and torque quite easily. This would be a good stop gap
The LT77 box should take it but Ashcroft do a simple upgrade to the R380.
The main focus will be on getting it handling well for fast road and I don't think there is any point in talking to anyone other than JE. They've been very helpful to date and must be amongst the best people at keeping Landies and Rangies on the black stuff. So will be staying with the original plan re diffs, drive and half shafts, roll bars etc.
If sticking with an RV8 unit for the time being then I can use the later ventilated discs which means being able to retain the original 16" Rostyles.
But I have been pointed in the direction of Mach 5 up in Yorkshire who are able to take the centres and weld them into 18" rims. So I can retain the Rostyles look.
The upside of this is that I may find the taller tyre walls on the 16" wheels poor for speed and need to switch to a slightly lower profile tyre and increase the wheel size. It also means I can select a slightly wider rim and get a bit more rubber on the ground and also fit the JE brake upgrade if needs be. I did find the Classic brakes on the Overfinch struggled a little but the 2 door is quite a bit lighter so we may be ok.
I'm continuing to source original interior and exterior 72 parts and am nearly there. Struggling to find the right Wynguard bonnet mirrors at the moment.
I'm also looking for a firm which can make me replacement interior door furniture, air vents and some other items as perfect replicas but from billeted aluminium. This is my current craziest idea along with also trying to source an original Monteverdi instrument dash pod to make a vacuum mould of.
I'm running a turbocharged 5.7 chevy in the dakar and its pretty quick. Kept up easily with an e46 m3 on a roll on.
But its all pretty hairy in such a big car. I have the option of force feeding my P38 now i have the fueling controlled with megasquirt, but i'm not sure i want that much power in that motor either.
My daily is an LS3 and i would really like one of those engines in the dakar or p38.
The jag engine conversions look interesting, but i would have to use the supercharged one. What sort of money does a complete engine go for ? And what transmission do they use? (i blew loads of boxes until i found a combination of internals to take the torque)
But its all pretty hairy in such a big car. I have the option of force feeding my P38 now i have the fueling controlled with megasquirt, but i'm not sure i want that much power in that motor either.
My daily is an LS3 and i would really like one of those engines in the dakar or p38.
The jag engine conversions look interesting, but i would have to use the supercharged one. What sort of money does a complete engine go for ? And what transmission do they use? (i blew loads of boxes until i found a combination of internals to take the torque)
eliot said:
I'm running a turbocharged 5.7 chevy in the dakar and its pretty quick. Kept up easily with an e46 m3 on a roll on.
But its all pretty hairy in such a big car. I have the option of force feeding my P38 now i have the fueling controlled with megasquirt, but i'm not sure i want that much power in that motor either.
My daily is an LS3 and i would really like one of those engines in the dakar or p38.
The jag engine conversions look interesting, but i would have to use the supercharged one. What sort of money does a complete engine go for ? And what transmission do they use? (i blew loads of boxes until i found a combination of internals to take the torque)
I'd imagine that is monster quick But its all pretty hairy in such a big car. I have the option of force feeding my P38 now i have the fueling controlled with megasquirt, but i'm not sure i want that much power in that motor either.
My daily is an LS3 and i would really like one of those engines in the dakar or p38.
The jag engine conversions look interesting, but i would have to use the supercharged one. What sort of money does a complete engine go for ? And what transmission do they use? (i blew loads of boxes until i found a combination of internals to take the torque)
An LS3 would be an easy option for a Classic as it's standard output is all you need for a good fast road project. I happen to have a personal issue with Chevy engines
I think that once you get towards 400 bhp my feeling is that the chassis of a classic is going to struggle badly and you'll feel strong twist. I think a thorough job would include some additional bracing. I would certainly fit a cage which may help in this regard.
The Gen III AJ-V8 engine is brilliant but it's finding an engine management guru who can take control of the variable timing, commonrail injection system and also the gearbox. That will be extremely messy.
The solution to date is to use the earlier engines and mate them to an uprated Schcroft P38 box. That seems to handle the 450 BHP of the supercharged engine.
DonkeyApple said:
you'll feel strong twist.
People following the car can actually see it come on boost as the whole thing twists up. You need to turn into it a little to counter it.Was poking around on ebay earlier and saw complete lumps with box going for about £800 - Which presumably is an early engine which can be controlled with an aftermarket ecu easily.
DonkeyApple said:
I little bit of an update.
I'm also looking for a firm which can make me replacement interior door furniture, air vents and some other items as perfect replicas but from billeted aluminium. This is my current craziest idea along with also trying to source an original Monteverdi instrument dash pod to make a vacuum mould of.
Do you have any pictures off the Monteverdi dash, I am in the middle of redsigning a new dash for my 93, something a little more eligant and with better laid switches and using TVR Chimaera clocksI'm also looking for a firm which can make me replacement interior door furniture, air vents and some other items as perfect replicas but from billeted aluminium. This is my current craziest idea along with also trying to source an original Monteverdi instrument dash pod to make a vacuum mould of.
I do have some picks but only ones I have saved off a google search.
If you type range rover Monteverdi into google images you get two main hits: a white resto that is currently up for sale and a gold one on the range rover classic website.
I don't think they did much tothe dash other than trim but they added a cowl over the dash pod and a fascia.
If you type range rover Monteverdi into google images you get two main hits: a white resto that is currently up for sale and a gold one on the range rover classic website.
I don't think they did much tothe dash other than trim but they added a cowl over the dash pod and a fascia.
task said:
Do you mean a wood and pickett dash?
They did several variations of dash, most of them involved raising the top of the dash all the way across.
Not me, those W&P dash are revolting. All Monteverdi did was replace the cover for the instrument pod which was a good improvement.They did several variations of dash, most of them involved raising the top of the dash all the way across.
they are, indeed, hideous.
However, several years ago we had a 1980's RRC 4 door that had a worked over engine and a wood and pickett dash/interior. That didn't have any of the hideous extensions but rather everything had been covered in leather to match the seats, so leather covered dash/binnacle/centre console in dark blue with dark blue/grey cloth half leather seats and door cards to match.
It actually worked very well.
However, several years ago we had a 1980's RRC 4 door that had a worked over engine and a wood and pickett dash/interior. That didn't have any of the hideous extensions but rather everything had been covered in leather to match the seats, so leather covered dash/binnacle/centre console in dark blue with dark blue/grey cloth half leather seats and door cards to match.
It actually worked very well.
task said:
they are, indeed, hideous.
However, several years ago we had a 1980's RRC 4 door that had a worked over engine and a wood and pickett dash/interior. That didn't have any of the hideous extensions but rather everything had been covered in leather to match the seats, so leather covered dash/binnacle/centre console in dark blue with dark blue/grey cloth half leather seats and door cards to match.
It actually worked very well.
That's the basic interior spec that mine will be.However, several years ago we had a 1980's RRC 4 door that had a worked over engine and a wood and pickett dash/interior. That didn't have any of the hideous extensions but rather everything had been covered in leather to match the seats, so leather covered dash/binnacle/centre console in dark blue with dark blue/grey cloth half leather seats and door cards to match.
It actually worked very well.
Trommel said:
DonkeyApple said:
If I were I would definitely go for the Rapport Excelsior as it will allow me to instal a personal newsagent in the back
Think how many boxes of Space Raiders he could fit in the back of there.Can't help being drawn to that sort of rubbish.
This one is going to be picture heavy, but I finally got round to scanning and uploading the photos of the full restoration carried out by the previous owner.
He bought the car in 1999 and spent 5 years taking it completely apart and replacing or re-conditioning every part. Cosmetically the exterior has been given a 90's look and the interior is non standard colour scheme, but it gives an idea as to the extremely high level of work carried out and why it is the perfect vehicle to use for what I am planning.
I have managed to now obtain most of the orgincal exterior parts and also settled on the interior trim.
The door frames have now been fully restored and powder coated black, along with the quarterlights and rear number plate holder.
The front and rear bumpers and Rostyle wheels are off being stripped, prepped and powder coated silver.
I will hold off the respray until I have finally made a descision on the engine.
He bought the car in 1999 and spent 5 years taking it completely apart and replacing or re-conditioning every part. Cosmetically the exterior has been given a 90's look and the interior is non standard colour scheme, but it gives an idea as to the extremely high level of work carried out and why it is the perfect vehicle to use for what I am planning.
I have managed to now obtain most of the orgincal exterior parts and also settled on the interior trim.
The door frames have now been fully restored and powder coated black, along with the quarterlights and rear number plate holder.
The front and rear bumpers and Rostyle wheels are off being stripped, prepped and powder coated silver.
I will hold off the respray until I have finally made a descision on the engine.
I'll keep this folder updated with new images as Stage 2 continues: http://s1129.photobucket.com/albums/m513/Horse_App...
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